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unkuto

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Mar 13, 2022
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Hi everyone. 8 months ago I made a post here telling my story and explaining my reason: why I'm here in the first place and why I want to do it.

Not much has changed since my last post. But the situation got millions times worse and I've been pretty lost and feel that I'm just a corpse at this point.

I'm 33 y/o Russian guy. I live by myself, have no parents, friends and relatives at this point. My mom was killed when I was 11, my dad died from lung cancer 3 years ago. I lost most of my friends during the last 9 months of the Russian - Ukraine war because they were brainwashed.
I had a pretty useless life. After finishing 11 years of regular school I went to college and had 3 years of "Entry school teacher" degree. Following 5 years of university that I dropout 1 months before Final Exams because I was scared that I'm going to fuck that up because I'm stupid, I had axienty, problems with me being bullied and other personal issues.

I only had one "real job" in my life which was working in a restaurant for two years. But besides that I just made money online working remotely and doing simple administrative tasks (really simple no skill jobs) for some company that no longer exists. There is no chance I would be able to find something similar as this one was unique and required nothing.

I feel myself pretty dumb and useless. I always had a hard time learning new stuff, paying attention. Maybe I was just lazy. Maybe everything together. I'm just a useless piece of shit who is 33 and has 0 life experience and doesn't know how to live this life.I even barely leave my house and often it gives me big distress as I don't like talking and interacting with people much.
I'm also gay which added even more problems and makes me more fucked up as being anything other than straight in Russia isn't welcomed because this shithole is homophobic.

Yeah that's me.

On February 24 Russia started a war against Ukraine. This was a moment when I knew that my life was over. I always had strong political opinions and opposition views. But living in dictatorship shihole I've learned not to publicly voice my opinion because that would cause massive problems up to jail time. Immediately when this war started I knew that Russia might as well be erased from the map because this country is over.
In the last 8 months of war we got more sanctions than any other country on this planet. Sanctions, isolation, and various restrictions were suffocating Russia and making the life of regular Russians a living nightmare. Why did criminals in charge like Putin and his friends feel no effects and could just shrug it off.

Lots of sanctions were especially targeting regular Russian citizens because the EU and US wanted us to "wake up" and start a revolution and get Putin out with our hands. But what regular people can do against a dictator regime that has been built for 22 years? The very regime that made to suppress any protest and punish people if they tried to rebel. Lots of people are scared. They rather end their life than protest. I'm one of them, unfortunately.
Other categories of people are brainwashed.
Propaganda is one of the main tools that every dictator is using. Putin was no exception. He dumped billions of dollars into eradicating free media, censorship, blocking internet content and of course TV propaganda. Hands down, he did an amazing job on this field. Think about it this way: USSR fell about 30 years ago and before that country was completely closed off and isolated from inside. No internet, no free media, nothing. The only thing people know is what they've heard on TV and radio. And what did they hear? "America is evil, The West is trying to destroy us". After the fall of the USSR and when Putin came in power the propaganda kept this course feeding people lies.

While young and educated people with access to the internet are not brainwashed in their majority I can't say the same about older people. Imagine you are 50. You've been born in the USSR and everything you heard all your life is "the evil west is trying to destroy our ways of life". You simply don't know anything better. The entire system has been built to destroy your abilities to critically think. Even if you come across any info that says opposite to what you know all your life you will have a hard time accepting it. It's like if someone is going to tell you that Earth is flat. Would you believe it? I don't know how these people can be fixed. Maybe they are lost forever.

This war has been going on for nearly 9 months. Entire Russian army was dead or rendered useless with total casualties both wounded and dead over 200k. Russia is losing and the more they lose the cruel it gets. Since the first day Russia has been purposely killing and executing civilians, destroying civilian infrastructure in Ukraine and comminitting countless war crimes.

But when Putin realized that he cannot win this war he decided to draft regular citizens and forcefully send them to Ukraine to fight this illegal war for him. He made this decision on September 21.

Since September 21 about millions of Russians have fled to the country running away from conscription which is basically a public execution. Some went to Georgia, Finland, Mongolia, Kazakhstan. People with more money and visas went to the EU or other countries.

The borders are still open and nearly everyone still can leave one way or another. But they can be closed any time. It's unknown how many people Putin has been able to draft during the last 2.5 weeks. There is no official data but various sources say between 500k and 1 million. And this is just the first wave. It's clear as day that all these people will be dead. If the entire professional Russian army fell during this invasion what regular people can do?
Modern wars are being fought with long range weapons and over 90% of all casualties from both side are artillery strikes

When the first wave of drafted people is going to die, Putin will get more. And more. And more. Human life has zero value for him. He is going to throw as much meat as he wants to achieve his illusory goals even if it's been sending the entire Russian population to their death.

So staying in Russia isn't even an option for anyone. It's impossible to sit that out or hide. Considering how many people are running from the country and hiding, Putin is going to have a hard time getting the next batch of fresh meat. This means he is going to use all possible repressive mechanics in order to find people.

He isn't going to win this war because he already lost. The question is how many more people are going to die until this stops?

Many people naively think that if Putin will be out of the picture then everything is going to stop. But unfortunately this isn't the case. The entire system has been taken by multiple criminal groups, oligarchs, corrupt politicians, corrupt judges, FSB, corrupt cops. If Putin will be gone then they'll just find someone else to take this place.

This leads to a pretty sad conclusion. Russia is screwed. Forever. Next century probably at least. Sanctions are going to stay here for decades (look at Iran, Cuba who lived under sanctions for half of the century) suffocating an already weakened and dying economy. We would have to go through civil war, crime, hunger and nightmares for decades and decades to come. Many people are going to die.
Unfortunately Russian people are way too scared to revolt and rise up against this regime. Even Putin forcefully sending their wives, sons, brothers to this war was not enough motivation for people to stand up and fight against him.

So I don't expect this is going to happen for a while.
And if this is going to happen… Oh boy. Nobody wants to be here I assure you. Considering how deep the roots of this regime are, the process of getting it out will be very painful. Many people are going to die and fall victim to these processes. But even then we don't know what is going to happen next. Chances that there will be a happy ending at the end are extremely slim. I personally don't believe it.

I don't want to deal with this. This is why I want to end my life. I already have SN in the cupboard. I've been thinking about doing it for the last 8 months but I was too pussy to take the final step. But right now I don't have a choice.

I mean I do but I'm scared to take it. I still have a chance to run to Kazakhstan and try to start a new life there. But the problem is I have a very limited amount of funds. And Kazakhstan is a developing country with very-very low salaries. Most simple labor jobs are paying $150 a month. Yeah, you read that correctly. $150 for a full month of working. While the price of rent right now is somewhere between $400-1000 for a shitty one room flat as result of over 200k Russians entering this country since September 21 where draft has been announced.

Considering I don't have any useful skills this is the only job I can expect doing. So my job most likely isn't even going to pay the rent and I will be losing my savings until I'm going to have nothing left. What then? Being homeless? And trust me Kazahstan isn't the place where you want to stay homeless. It's also getting pretty cold here. Maybe I will be able to survive in Kazakhstan for a couple months but I don't really have any clear plan what to do after. I just cannot afford living here. Yes I know it's all my fault. I should have lived my life differently, made better decisions, learned the right stuff and everything. Maybe then I would be in a much better position and wouldn't have to make this choice.

I'm also really-really weak. I'm scared, demotivated and overall feel absolutely useless and not worth staying alive. Do I want to die? I don't. I know if it comes to the point of me throwing myself under the train or jumping off I wouldn't be able to do that because I'm pussy. SN is the only way I can do it. But even to do that I'll have to man up enough to take my life this way.

I know there are strong people who can achieve anything. Who has enough self-confidence to move mountains, quickly learn new stuff, and find ways to make money. But I'm not one of them. So I feel like I'm pretty fucked and doomed.

I know this isn't a suicide advice because I've already read enough about SN and how to do it.
But I just want to ask people for advice. I can't seem to make my own decision and I want people to help me. Even if you can't give me any advice at this point I appreciate for listening.
 
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Broccoli

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Oct 9, 2022
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I'm in no position to give advice especially to someone living in Russian during these times, but if your options are suicide and run away. Why not run first. Suicide will always be there. Try running first, see what happens? And again maybe terrible advice, but stop thinking about money and what to do and. Just pack a bag and leave right now. Pick a direction and go. Don't try to solve all problems and plan out an exact way just enough for the next step. find way to make and save few bucks to get you to the next town or country your next meal, then hang around until you can find another quick job. Might have to live on the street or be a hobo for some time but at least until you can travel to a better situation. I don't know about the job you mentioned, but you must have some administrative skills. you can try and look for remote jobs on linked in, fivver, upworks, etc? Just can't be afraid to ask for help or a handout. hungry? ask for a quick meal or change for food? Need bus ride to the next town ask stranger if they have a few bucks.

My lifes just comfortable enough to fear the unknown, but if your situations as dire as you think it is then why not say F it and go on an adventure, pack bag and leave right now. Start walking and figure it out as you go. worst case you die? sounds like that was your other option anyway.
 
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unkuto

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Mar 13, 2022
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I'm in no position to give advice especially to someone living in Russian during these times, but if your options are suicide and run away. Why not run first. Suicide will always be there. Try running first, see what happens? And again maybe terrible advice, but stop thinking about money and what to do and. Just pack a bag and leave right now. Pick a direction and go. Don't try to solve all problems and plan out an exact way just enough for the next step. find way to make and save few bucks to get you to the next town or country your next meal, then hang around until you can find another quick job. Might have to live on the street or be a hobo for some time but at least until you can travel to a better situation. I don't know about the job you mentioned, but you must have some administrative skills. you can try and look for remote jobs on linked in, fivver, upworks, etc? Just can't be afraid to ask for help or a handout. hungry? ask for a quick meal or change for food? Need bus ride to the next town ask stranger if they have a few bucks.

My lifes just comfortable enough to fear the unknown, but if your situations as dire as you think it is then why not say F it and go on an adventure, pack bag and leave right now. Start walking and figure it out as you go. worst case you die? sounds like that was your other option anyway.
I dont know how to overcome the fear. I'm kinda like a "home person" who is stressing enough to go outside sometimes. My biggest fear always to be to stay homeless.
I'm scared if I'll end up homeless I wont have option to properly SN myself and I will be have to go through suffering and hard times to the end of my life. Which is something I don't want.
 
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What a nightmare. I'd pack my SN wherever I go
 
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unkuto

Student
Mar 13, 2022
132
What a nightmare. I'd pack my SN wherever I go
I'm scared to take it with me. It might cause issues on the boarder. While this isn't illegal they will begin ask questions as why I'm taking it with me or something. Or they even arrest me and send it for testing to make sure that it is what it says it is. In general I dont think it's something good to carry around. Because a person going to different country carrying a small jar of SN looks kinda sus.
 
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Oct 9, 2022
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I am new here. can I ask what the SN is being talked about here? I've seen stuff about SN and IC?
 
Hollowillow

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Aug 7, 2022
1,499
Hi everyone. 8 months ago I made a post here telling my story and explaining my reason: why I'm here in the first place and why I want to do it.

Not much has changed since my last post. But the situation got millions times worse and I've been pretty lost and feel that I'm just a corpse at this point.

I'm 33 y/o Russian guy. I live by myself, have no parents, friends and relatives at this point. My mom was killed when I was 11, my dad died from lung cancer 3 years ago. I lost most of my friends during the last 9 months of the Russian - Ukraine war because they were brainwashed.
I had a pretty useless life. After finishing 11 years of regular school I went to college and had 3 years of "Entry school teacher" degree. Following 5 years of university that I dropout 1 months before Final Exams because I was scared that I'm going to fuck that up because I'm stupid, I had axienty, problems with me being bullied and other personal issues.

I only had one "real job" in my life which was working in a restaurant for two years. But besides that I just made money online working remotely and doing simple administrative tasks (really simple no skill jobs) for some company that no longer exists. There is no chance I would be able to find something similar as this one was unique and required nothing.

I feel myself pretty dumb and useless. I always had a hard time learning new stuff, paying attention. Maybe I was just lazy. Maybe everything together. I'm just a useless piece of shit who is 33 and has 0 life experience and doesn't know how to live this life.I even barely leave my house and often it gives me big distress as I don't like talking and interacting with people much.
I'm also gay which added even more problems and makes me more fucked up as being anything other than straight in Russia isn't welcomed because this shithole is homophobic.

Yeah that's me.

On February 24 Russia started a war against Ukraine. This was a moment when I knew that my life was over. I always had strong political opinions and opposition views. But living in dictatorship shihole I've learned not to publicly voice my opinion because that would cause massive problems up to jail time. Immediately when this war started I knew that Russia might as well be erased from the map because this country is over.
In the last 8 months of war we got more sanctions than any other country on this planet. Sanctions, isolation, and various restrictions were suffocating Russia and making the life of regular Russians a living nightmare. Why did criminals in charge like Putin and his friends feel no effects and could just shrug it off.

Lots of sanctions were especially targeting regular Russian citizens because the EU and US wanted us to "wake up" and start a revolution and get Putin out with our hands. But what regular people can do against a dictator regime that has been built for 22 years? The very regime that made to suppress any protest and punish people if they tried to rebel. Lots of people are scared. They rather end their life than protest. I'm one of them, unfortunately.
Other categories of people are brainwashed.
Propaganda is one of the main tools that every dictator is using. Putin was no exception. He dumped billions of dollars into eradicating free media, censorship, blocking internet content and of course TV propaganda. Hands down, he did an amazing job on this field. Think about it this way: USSR fell about 30 years ago and before that country was completely closed off and isolated from inside. No internet, no free media, nothing. The only thing people know is what they've heard on TV and radio. And what did they hear? "America is evil, The West is trying to destroy us". After the fall of the USSR and when Putin came in power the propaganda kept this course feeding people lies.

While young and educated people with access to the internet are not brainwashed in their majority I can't say the same about older people. Imagine you are 50. You've been born in the USSR and everything you heard all your life is "the evil west is trying to destroy our ways of life". You simply don't know anything better. The entire system has been built to destroy your abilities to critically think. Even if you come across any info that says opposite to what you know all your life you will have a hard time accepting it. It's like if someone is going to tell you that Earth is flat. Would you believe it? I don't know how these people can be fixed. Maybe they are lost forever.

This war has been going on for nearly 9 months. Entire Russian army was dead or rendered useless with total casualties both wounded and dead over 200k. Russia is losing and the more they lose the cruel it gets. Since the first day Russia has been purposely killing and executing civilians, destroying civilian infrastructure in Ukraine and comminitting countless war crimes.

But when Putin realized that he cannot win this war he decided to draft regular citizens and forcefully send them to Ukraine to fight this illegal war for him. He made this decision on September 21.

Since September 21 about millions of Russians have fled to the country running away from conscription which is basically a public execution. Some went to Georgia, Finland, Mongolia, Kazakhstan. People with more money and visas went to the EU or other countries.

The borders are still open and nearly everyone still can leave one way or another. But they can be closed any time. It's unknown how many people Putin has been able to draft during the last 2.5 weeks. There is no official data but various sources say between 500k and 1 million. And this is just the first wave. It's clear as day that all these people will be dead. If the entire professional Russian army fell during this invasion what regular people can do?
Modern wars are being fought with long range weapons and over 90% of all casualties from both side are artillery strikes

When the first wave of drafted people is going to die, Putin will get more. And more. And more. Human life has zero value for him. He is going to throw as much meat as he wants to achieve his illusory goals even if it's been sending the entire Russian population to their death.

So staying in Russia isn't even an option for anyone. It's impossible to sit that out or hide. Considering how many people are running from the country and hiding, Putin is going to have a hard time getting the next batch of fresh meat. This means he is going to use all possible repressive mechanics in order to find people.

He isn't going to win this war because he already lost. The question is how many more people are going to die until this stops?

Many people naively think that if Putin will be out of the picture then everything is going to stop. But unfortunately this isn't the case. The entire system has been taken by multiple criminal groups, oligarchs, corrupt politicians, corrupt judges, FSB, corrupt cops. If Putin will be gone then they'll just find someone else to take this place.

This leads to a pretty sad conclusion. Russia is screwed. Forever. Next century probably at least. Sanctions are going to stay here for decades (look at Iran, Cuba who lived under sanctions for half of the century) suffocating an already weakened and dying economy. We would have to go through civil war, crime, hunger and nightmares for decades and decades to come. Many people are going to die.
Unfortunately Russian people are way too scared to revolt and rise up against this regime. Even Putin forcefully sending their wives, sons, brothers to this war was not enough motivation for people to stand up and fight against him.

So I don't expect this is going to happen for a while.
And if this is going to happen… Oh boy. Nobody wants to be here I assure you. Considering how deep the roots of this regime are, the process of getting it out will be very painful. Many people are going to die and fall victim to these processes. But even then we don't know what is going to happen next. Chances that there will be a happy ending at the end are extremely slim. I personally don't believe it.

I don't want to deal with this. This is why I want to end my life. I already have SN in the cupboard. I've been thinking about doing it for the last 8 months but I was too pussy to take the final step. But right now I don't have a choice.

I mean I do but I'm scared to take it. I still have a chance to run to Kazakhstan and try to start a new life there. But the problem is I have a very limited amount of funds. And Kazakhstan is a developing country with very-very low salaries. Most simple labor jobs are paying $150 a month. Yeah, you read that correctly. $150 for a full month of working. While the price of rent right now is somewhere between $400-1000 for a shitty one room flat as result of over 200k Russians entering this country since September 21 where draft has been announced.

Considering I don't have any useful skills this is the only job I can expect doing. So my job most likely isn't even going to pay the rent and I will be losing my savings until I'm going to have nothing left. What then? Being homeless? And trust me Kazahstan isn't the place where you want to stay homeless. It's also getting pretty cold here. Maybe I will be able to survive in Kazakhstan for a couple months but I don't really have any clear plan what to do after. I just cannot afford living here. Yes I know it's all my fault. I should have lived my life differently, made better decisions, learned the right stuff and everything. Maybe then I would be in a much better position and wouldn't have to make this choice.

I'm also really-really weak. I'm scared, demotivated and overall feel absolutely useless and not worth staying alive. Do I want to die? I don't. I know if it comes to the point of me throwing myself under the train or jumping off I wouldn't be able to do that because I'm pussy. SN is the only way I can do it. But even to do that I'll have to man up enough to take my life this way.

I know there are strong people who can achieve anything. Who has enough self-confidence to move mountains, quickly learn new stuff, and find ways to make money. But I'm not one of them. So I feel like I'm pretty fucked and doomed.

I know this isn't a suicide advice because I've already read enough about SN and how to do it.
But I just want to ask people for advice. I can't seem to make my own decision and I want people to help me. Even if you can't give me any advice at this point I appreciate for listening.
It's so horrifying and barbaric, it feels like reading a text from long ago and I'm heartbroken that humanity never evolved. I don't know if it be possible to share that one room with someone else but it sounds like a s***** way to live. I wouldn't have just trying to go through with it. I would probably wait until I get drafted and then I will pray for a quick death or I would shoot myself with my own gun. I think that what is happening now is a depopulation plan. They tried with a buyer weapon and now they send citizens to kill each other. It's like the Pharaoh killing the newborn because the slaves were too numerous and getting harder to manage. They were scared of revolts but if people revolted against their government maybe they will be hope. But people fall for the hatred and Division. They turn against each other even here. It baffles me that psychopath have more unity and solidarity than regular people. I can't even open up to a friend without having the cops show up to my door to do psychological violence and shame me. I can't even Phantom what you're going through but I think it's happening soon in Canada as well. I can smell the dictatorship since years. Thing thing they're trying to destroy Russia because it was a good power. I don't really know or understand a psychopathic but I know the WEF is doing a great reset their leader even wrote a book about it. I think it's the end of the world. At least during world war the politician were trying to protect their own citizen but now it's how politicians of every country against all citizens. We are billions and they are maybe hundreds if we revolted it will be over soon. But people were trying to be isolated especially by covid measures. They made groups and made us bully each other. I want to leave this world but I'm not sure how I will get SN soon but don't even have the tools to measure it and I have agoraphobia so I can go out. If I was having a war I would be so Beyond insane. I admire your courage. I don't think you should feel ashamed that you didn't get a big degree because there are no guarantee to have work anyway. You did the best you could and that's good enough. Nobody expected to go back to the dark ages. I wish all countries could just throw the nukes upwards and be over with humanity. My deepest good wishes for you. I hope that you succeed to escape hell. I will try to hold on where I was as long as possible and kill myself when it's no longer possible to have a home and food and freedom. Countless homeless people still manage to survive and they're so brave I couldn't do it. I can't even do my life now. I really wish you to escape humanities madness and find peace any means necessary.
Does curing meat makes it last longer? I'd call it a camping survival kit. Bring salt to do the recipe?
 
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thedaywillcome

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Apr 2, 2022
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It's so horrifying and barbaric, it feels like reading a text from long ago and I'm heartbroken that humanity never evolved. I don't know if it be possible to share that one room with someone else but it sounds like a s***** way to live. I wouldn't have just trying to go through with it. I would probably wait until I get drafted and then I will pray for a quick death or I would shoot myself with my own gun. I think that what is happening now is a depopulation plan. They tried with a buyer weapon and now they send citizens to kill each other. It's like the Pharaoh killing the newborn because the slaves were too numerous and getting harder to manage. They were scared of revolts but if people revolted against their government maybe they will be hope. But people fall for the hatred and Division. They turn against each other even here. It baffles me that psychopath have more unity and solidarity than regular people. I can't even open up to a friend without having the cops show up to my door to do psychological violence and shame me. I can't even Phantom what you're going through but I think it's happening soon in Canada as well. I can smell the dictatorship since years. Thing thing they're trying to destroy Russia because it was a good power. I don't really know or understand a psychopathic but I know the WEF is doing a great reset their leader even wrote a book about it. I think it's the end of the world. At least during world war the politician were trying to protect their own citizen but now it's how politicians of every country against all citizens. We are billions and they are maybe hundreds if we revolted it will be over soon. But people were trying to be isolated especially by covid measures. They made groups and made us bully each other. I want to leave this world but I'm not sure how I will get SN soon but don't even have the tools to measure it and I have agoraphobia so I can go out. If I was having a war I would be so Beyond insane. I admire your courage. I don't think you should feel ashamed that you didn't get a big degree because there are no guarantee to have work anyway. You did the best you could and that's good enough. Nobody expected to go back to the dark ages. I wish all countries could just throw the nukes upwards and be over with humanity. My deepest good wishes for you. I hope that you succeed to escape hell. I will try to hold on where I was as long as possible and kill myself when it's no longer possible to have a home and food and freedom. Countless homeless people still manage to survive and they're so brave I couldn't do it. I can't even do my life now. I really wish you to escape humanities madness and find peace any means necessary.
Does curing meat makes it last longer? I'd call it a camping survival kit. Bring salt to do the recipe?
They want start nuclear war. Its the same story here>>> SI.
 
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jitendrabagaria786@

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May 19, 2022
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If you have option to run away then just run away..... God if I had the luxury to run away I would live....
I'm so so pathetic I wish my mother could just die so I can be free... Free to go wherever I want to go live wherever I want to live.
 
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Aug 7, 2022
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I am new here. can I ask what the SN is being talked about here? I've seen stuff about SN and IC?
SN is sodium nitrite, used to do a salt mix combo (6% sn) to cure meat. Super toxic on its own. IC is a supplier. Maybe the last verified one who sell without requiring a company that makes food. DD started demanding that. IC requires a ID photo to prove we're adults but don't seem to mind otherwise if people use it to ctb (catch the bus... To the afterlife... And die)

People found some for 7$... Wtf... It can be curing salt 6% instead of 99%, or sodium nitrate which isn't toxic... But if we can find it cheap .. I'd like that... I paid 175$ canadian (us is like 111$) it hurts... But not as much as the psychological violence I keep getting every time I ask for help. Best wishes
They want start nuclear war. Its the same story here>>> SI.
I we wish they could just legalize with euthanasia instead of all the manipulative b******* they do to kill us all.
If you have option to run away then just run away..... God if I had the luxury to run away I would live....
I'm so so pathetic I wish my mother could just die so I can be free... Free to go wherever I want to go live wherever I want to live.
I think you should just go even if your mother is still alive because if you wish her to die then you might as well. Or just take her with you. Mine was cruel so I don't really understand I'm sorry.
 
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unkuto

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Mar 13, 2022
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If you have option to run away then just run away..... God if I had the luxury to run away I would live....
I'm so so pathetic I wish my mother could just die so I can be free... Free to go wherever I want to go live wherever I want to live.
It's not a luxury. I dont have much money left and running away would end me being homeless. Being homeless in developing country is not pleasant experience. I'd rather die than have life like this.
 
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jitendrabagaria786@

Student
May 19, 2022
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I know I know.... But it is so hard to kill yourself then living homeless.... I too am from developing country and I know living a homeless life is hard but one can still manage if he has desire to live
 
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unkuto

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Mar 13, 2022
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I know I know.... But it is so hard to kill yourself then living homeless.... I too am from developing country and I know living a homeless life is hard but one can still manage if he has desire to live
My desire to live isn't very strong. I've seen way too much shit in my life to make me want to go through endless struggles with no goal in the end.
 
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onlyanimalsaregood

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Mar 11, 2022
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My desire to live isn't very strong. I've seen way too much shit in my life to make me want to go through endless struggles with no goal in the end.
Hi. First I want to say that I'm so sorry for your suffering. The world is completely mad and I never in a million years though that I would "live" in a war era. It's madness. I understand your struggle to get out of there and the logistic to do it but I want you to know that several countrys in Europe are accepting people like you. One example is Portugal. And they help you find a home, a job, everything. So if you are willing to do that I advice you to run. I think is definitely worth the shot. I wish you the best.
 
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Mar 11, 2022
2,113
Described as you have done, there are no good choices. I don't feel I can give advice, but I definitely am listening. Your situation really does stink. I'm so sorry.

I'm sort of wondering... What if you brought the SN with you, and if they asked you about it you simply told them you wanted to have a way to CTB in case things didn't work out? I wonder what would happen. Would they turn you away? Would they say they're sorry but they have to take it (and then let you in after they took it)? It's a really weird situation, given that the stuff isn't actually illegal in very many places.
 
theboy

theboy

Visionary
Jul 15, 2022
2,816
I appreciate your sincerity and the information you provide in this forum regarding Russia. I really wanted to know the perspective of someone who lives in that country.
Maybe, you should go to Kazakhstan taking with you the SN to use it "just in case".
 
CHXX

CHXX

Member
Oct 1, 2022
11
Are things so bad in Russia? It is difficult for me to know the real situation abroad, our information is relatively closed in China.

Maybe it's fucked up after the escape, maybe it's better, none of us know. But if you really want to live, I think you can give it a try, and bless you no matter what you choose
 
S

Sun n showers

Student
Jul 4, 2022
190
Hi everyone. 8 months ago I made a post here telling my story and explaining my reason: why I'm here in the first place and why I want to do it.

Not much has changed since my last post. But the situation got millions times worse and I've been pretty lost and feel that I'm just a corpse at this point.

I'm 33 y/o Russian guy. I live by myself, have no parents, friends and relatives at this point. My mom was killed when I was 11, my dad died from lung cancer 3 years ago. I lost most of my friends during the last 9 months of the Russian - Ukraine war because they were brainwashed.
I had a pretty useless life. After finishing 11 years of regular school I went to college and had 3 years of "Entry school teacher" degree. Following 5 years of university that I dropout 1 months before Final Exams because I was scared that I'm going to fuck that up because I'm stupid, I had axienty, problems with me being bullied and other personal issues.

I only had one "real job" in my life which was working in a restaurant for two years. But besides that I just made money online working remotely and doing simple administrative tasks (really simple no skill jobs) for some company that no longer exists. There is no chance I would be able to find something similar as this one was unique and required nothing.

I feel myself pretty dumb and useless. I always had a hard time learning new stuff, paying attention. Maybe I was just lazy. Maybe everything together. I'm just a useless piece of shit who is 33 and has 0 life experience and doesn't know how to live this life.I even barely leave my house and often it gives me big distress as I don't like talking and interacting with people much.
I'm also gay which added even more problems and makes me more fucked up as being anything other than straight in Russia isn't welcomed because this shithole is homophobic.

Yeah that's me.

On February 24 Russia started a war against Ukraine. This was a moment when I knew that my life was over. I always had strong political opinions and opposition views. But living in dictatorship shihole I've learned not to publicly voice my opinion because that would cause massive problems up to jail time. Immediately when this war started I knew that Russia might as well be erased from the map because this country is over.
In the last 8 months of war we got more sanctions than any other country on this planet. Sanctions, isolation, and various restrictions were suffocating Russia and making the life of regular Russians a living nightmare. Why did criminals in charge like Putin and his friends feel no effects and could just shrug it off.

Lots of sanctions were especially targeting regular Russian citizens because the EU and US wanted us to "wake up" and start a revolution and get Putin out with our hands. But what regular people can do against a dictator regime that has been built for 22 years? The very regime that made to suppress any protest and punish people if they tried to rebel. Lots of people are scared. They rather end their life than protest. I'm one of them, unfortunately.
Other categories of people are brainwashed.
Propaganda is one of the main tools that every dictator is using. Putin was no exception. He dumped billions of dollars into eradicating free media, censorship, blocking internet content and of course TV propaganda. Hands down, he did an amazing job on this field. Think about it this way: USSR fell about 30 years ago and before that country was completely closed off and isolated from inside. No internet, no free media, nothing. The only thing people know is what they've heard on TV and radio. And what did they hear? "America is evil, The West is trying to destroy us". After the fall of the USSR and when Putin came in power the propaganda kept this course feeding people lies.

While young and educated people with access to the internet are not brainwashed in their majority I can't say the same about older people. Imagine you are 50. You've been born in the USSR and everything you heard all your life is "the evil west is trying to destroy our ways of life". You simply don't know anything better. The entire system has been built to destroy your abilities to critically think. Even if you come across any info that says opposite to what you know all your life you will have a hard time accepting it. It's like if someone is going to tell you that Earth is flat. Would you believe it? I don't know how these people can be fixed. Maybe they are lost forever.

This war has been going on for nearly 9 months. Entire Russian army was dead or rendered useless with total casualties both wounded and dead over 200k. Russia is losing and the more they lose the cruel it gets. Since the first day Russia has been purposely killing and executing civilians, destroying civilian infrastructure in Ukraine and comminitting countless war crimes.

But when Putin realized that he cannot win this war he decided to draft regular citizens and forcefully send them to Ukraine to fight this illegal war for him. He made this decision on September 21.

Since September 21 about millions of Russians have fled to the country running away from conscription which is basically a public execution. Some went to Georgia, Finland, Mongolia, Kazakhstan. People with more money and visas went to the EU or other countries.

The borders are still open and nearly everyone still can leave one way or another. But they can be closed any time. It's unknown how many people Putin has been able to draft during the last 2.5 weeks. There is no official data but various sources say between 500k and 1 million. And this is just the first wave. It's clear as day that all these people will be dead. If the entire professional Russian army fell during this invasion what regular people can do?
Modern wars are being fought with long range weapons and over 90% of all casualties from both side are artillery strikes

When the first wave of drafted people is going to die, Putin will get more. And more. And more. Human life has zero value for him. He is going to throw as much meat as he wants to achieve his illusory goals even if it's been sending the entire Russian population to their death.

So staying in Russia isn't even an option for anyone. It's impossible to sit that out or hide. Considering how many people are running from the country and hiding, Putin is going to have a hard time getting the next batch of fresh meat. This means he is going to use all possible repressive mechanics in order to find people.

He isn't going to win this war because he already lost. The question is how many more people are going to die until this stops?

Many people naively think that if Putin will be out of the picture then everything is going to stop. But unfortunately this isn't the case. The entire system has been taken by multiple criminal groups, oligarchs, corrupt politicians, corrupt judges, FSB, corrupt cops. If Putin will be gone then they'll just find someone else to take this place.

This leads to a pretty sad conclusion. Russia is screwed. Forever. Next century probably at least. Sanctions are going to stay here for decades (look at Iran, Cuba who lived under sanctions for half of the century) suffocating an already weakened and dying economy. We would have to go through civil war, crime, hunger and nightmares for decades and decades to come. Many people are going to die.
Unfortunately Russian people are way too scared to revolt and rise up against this regime. Even Putin forcefully sending their wives, sons, brothers to this war was not enough motivation for people to stand up and fight against him.

So I don't expect this is going to happen for a while.
And if this is going to happen… Oh boy. Nobody wants to be here I assure you. Considering how deep the roots of this regime are, the process of getting it out will be very painful. Many people are going to die and fall victim to these processes. But even then we don't know what is going to happen next. Chances that there will be a happy ending at the end are extremely slim. I personally don't believe it.

I don't want to deal with this. This is why I want to end my life. I already have SN in the cupboard. I've been thinking about doing it for the last 8 months but I was too pussy to take the final step. But right now I don't have a choice.

I mean I do but I'm scared to take it. I still have a chance to run to Kazakhstan and try to start a new life there. But the problem is I have a very limited amount of funds. And Kazakhstan is a developing country with very-very low salaries. Most simple labor jobs are paying $150 a month. Yeah, you read that correctly. $150 for a full month of working. While the price of rent right now is somewhere between $400-1000 for a shitty one room flat as result of over 200k Russians entering this country since September 21 where draft has been announced.

Considering I don't have any useful skills this is the only job I can expect doing. So my job most likely isn't even going to pay the rent and I will be losing my savings until I'm going to have nothing left. What then? Being homeless? And trust me Kazahstan isn't the place where you want to stay homeless. It's also getting pretty cold here. Maybe I will be able to survive in Kazakhstan for a couple months but I don't really have any clear plan what to do after. I just cannot afford living here. Yes I know it's all my fault. I should have lived my life differently, made better decisions, learned the right stuff and everything. Maybe then I would be in a much better position and wouldn't have to make this choice.

I'm also really-really weak. I'm scared, demotivated and overall feel absolutely useless and not worth staying alive. Do I want to die? I don't. I know if it comes to the point of me throwing myself under the train or jumping off I wouldn't be able to do that because I'm pussy. SN is the only way I can do it. But even to do that I'll have to man up enough to take my life this way.

I know there are strong people who can achieve anything. Who has enough self-confidence to move mountains, quickly learn new stuff, and find ways to make money. But I'm not one of them. So I feel like I'm pretty fucked and doomed.

I know this isn't a suicide advice because I've already read enough about SN and how to do it.
But I just want to ask people for advice. I can't seem to make my own decision and I want people to help me. Even if you can't give me any advice at this point I appreciate for listening.
Look at kumtor gold mine opportunities, I worked for an airline that brought some canadian employees in and out of the mine in kazakhstan, very lucrative company, should have openings..
 
U

unkuto

Student
Mar 13, 2022
132
Are things so bad in Russia? It is difficult for me to know the real situation abroad, our information is relatively closed in China.

Maybe it's fucked up after the escape, maybe it's better, none of us know. But if you really want to live, I think you can give it a try, and bless you no matter what you choose
Yes they are. In fact they are more than just bad.
 

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