Reliability of SN

[golfmavenice]

So, 5 g of pure SN would kill someone if not found in maximum 4 hours. (If all of the SN can be absorbed)

If I drink 25 g in 50 mL water, and successfully absorb 1/5 of SN then it means I will be dead in maximum 4 hours.

I am thinking about preparing 3 glasses of SN. This means 75 g. If I successfully absorb 1/15 of SN then I will die in maximum 4 hours right?

If I am right then I won't worry about the reliability of SN, because I saw some people still alive after 4 hours so that's why I am worried so much.

And does SN cause gasping for air or choking?

Thanks for answers :)
golfmavenice

 

[Oneiron]

There is always the risk that it doesnt work. Although many people here say that its painless and safe, please keep always in mind that SN is a poison that definitly cause negative effects on you like nause, vomiting or grasping for air. The severity of the symptoms and the duration of death vary strongly between individuals so no one can guarantee that it works the way it should

 

[befree]

@golfmavenice, did you read the SN guide ? I´ts recommanded to use also an antiemetic, an antacid and betablocker and not only 5g, but 25g SN.

 

[golfmavenice]

@golfmavenice, did you read the SN guide ? I´ts recommanded to use also an antiemetic, an antacid and betablocker and not only 5g, but 25g SN.

Yes I read it, I read Peaceful pill handbook too, I will use 2x500 mg paracetamol, 3x10 mg metoclopramide 2x40 mg ondansetron(antiemetics), 2x40 mg famotidine and 10x40 mg propranolol in 25 g SN and 50 mL water. I don't know if 10 pills of propranolol can dissolve in SN so I can use 100 mL water instead of 50 mL.

 

[VoidDesirer22]

And does SN cause gasping for air or choking?

I think this is very rare. But because it is so scary it gets a lot of air time on the forum out of fear.

 

[roaming_soul]

So, 5 g of pure SN would kill someone if not found in maximum 4 hours. (If all of the SN can be absorbed)

If I drink 25 g in 50 mL water, and successfully absorb 1/5 of SN then it means I will be dead in maximum 4 hours.

I am thinking about preparing 3 glasses of SN. This means 75 g. If I successfully absorb 1/15 of SN then I will die in maximum 4 hours right?

If I am right then I won't worry about the reliability of SN, because I saw some people still alive after 4 hours so that's why I am worried so much.

And does SN cause gasping for air or choking?

Thanks for answers :)
golfmavenice

Were you thinking of drinking all 3 glasses at once or using the other 2 as backup?

I just got my SN today and just looking at it 25g is A LOT of powder to put in 50ml/100ml of water. Understandably, its best to take in as little liquid as possible to reduce chances of actually vomitting. So keep in mind that your not only trying to prevent your body from expelling the poison, but also subconciously trying not to initiate vomiting from your knowledge of exactly how much poison you've just injested.

 

[LifeQuitter2018]

Yes I read it, I read Peaceful pill handbook too, I will use 2x500 mg paracetamol, 3x10 mg metoclopramide 2x40 mg ondansetron(antiemetics), 2x40 mg famotidine and 10x40 mg propranolol in 25 g SN and 50 mL water. I don't know if 10 pills of propranolol can dissolve in SN so I can use 100 mL water instead of 50 mL.

I can see you got yourself lot of necessary drugs already. You chance of success is already high.
Now the deciding factors would be the pureness of your SN and the people who you're living with.

If you live alone, you 100% have nothing to fear because if you surivive on your own, it will be your own secret. Nobody knows.
If you're in a hotel, it depends. If the roomkeeper or other guests find you, ambulance will be called. If condition allowed, try to find a place where you won't be disturbed for at leasts 24hrs to be safe.

 

[wljourney]

Were you thinking of drinking all 3 glasses at once or using the other 2 as backup?

I just got my SN today and just looking at it 25g is A LOT of powder to put in 50ml/100ml of water. Understandably, its best to take in as little liquid as possible to reduce chances of actually vomitting. So keep in mind that your not only trying to prevent your body from expelling the poison, but also subconciously trying not to initiate vomiting from your knowledge of exactly how much poison you've just injested.

This.

While the original post is theoretically correct that "the more you take in, the less of the total needs to be actually absorbed", there is also the issue with "the more you drink, the higher the likelihood of vomiting".

So I would say: stick to the PPeH. Drink the backup glass only if you throw up #1. You have plenty of anti-emetics and other meds listed to make this work.

Don't spoil it by overdoing.

 

[Chiisai]

So, 5 g of pure SN would kill someone if not found in maximum 4 hours. (If all of the SN can be absorbed)

If I drink 25 g in 50 mL water, and successfully absorb 1/5 of SN then it means I will be dead in maximum 4 hours.

I am thinking about preparing 3 glasses of SN. This means 75 g. If I successfully absorb 1/15 of SN then I will die in maximum 4 hours right?

If I am right then I won't worry about the reliability of SN, because I saw some people still alive after 4 hours so that's why I am worried so much.

And does SN cause gasping for air or choking?

Thanks for answers :)
golfmavenice

In my experience, you'll pass out before you'll be aware of anything.

 

[befree]

I wonder if it would be useful to have "Methylene blue" ready in case of survival. May be somebody knows.

 

[houseofleaves]

I wonder if it would be useful to have "Methylene blue" ready in case of survival. May be somebody knows.

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[LifeQuitter2018]

I wonder if it would be useful to have "Methylene blue" ready in case of survival. May be somebody knows.

In my experience reading lot of posts on here, no need for that. Just drink a lot of waters. Your appearance will become normal after 8 - 9 hours.

 

[golfmavenice]

Were you thinking of drinking all 3 glasses at once or using the other 2 as backup?

I just got my SN today and just looking at it 25g is A LOT of powder to put in 50ml/100ml of water. Understandably, its best to take in as little liquid as possible to reduce chances of actually vomitting. So keep in mind that your not only trying to prevent your body from expelling the poison, but also subconciously trying not to initiate vomiting from your knowledge of exactly how much poison you've just injested.

I will use the other 2 glasses as a backup.

I can see you got yourself lot of necessary drugs already. You chance of success is already high.
Now the deciding factors would be the pureness of your SN and the people who you're living with.

If you live alone, you 100% have nothing to fear because if you surivive on your own, it will be your own secret. Nobody knows.
If you're in a hotel, it depends. If the roomkeeper or other guests find you, ambulance will be called. If condition allowed, try to find a place where you won't be disturbed for at leasts 24hrs to be safe.

Is still there a risk of surviving after drinking 3 glasses of SN without medical help?

 

[LifeQuitter2018]

Is still there a risk of surviving after drinking 3 glasses of SN without medical help?

I've never heard about anyone reaching the third glass, but I assume in a hypothetical situation you can really drink up to 3 glasses, then the chance of survival is entirely up to the pureness of SN. If it's mostly nitrate not nitrite, then yes I think you could survive.

For the reason of vomitting, no, I don't think you would survive. Your body is absorbing so much poison that even with vomitting, you still die.

I'm not a professional, so don't take my opinion seriously. We need others to confirm the hypothesis.

 

[headspin]

Yes I read it, I read Peaceful pill handbook too, I will use 2x500 mg paracetamol, 3x10 mg metoclopramide 2x40 mg ondansetron(antiemetics), 2x40 mg famotidine and 10x40 mg propranolol in 25 g SN and 50 mL water. I don't know if 10 pills of propranolol can dissolve in SN so I can use 100 mL water instead of 50 mL.

Why not swallow the propranolol like the other pills, just as they are? I think that is what is recommended.

So, 5 g of pure SN would kill someone if not found in maximum 4 hours. (If all of the SN can be absorbed)

If I drink 25 g in 50 mL water, and successfully absorb 1/5 of SN then it means I will be dead in maximum 4 hours.

I am thinking about preparing 3 glasses of SN. This means 75 g. If I successfully absorb 1/15 of SN then I will die in maximum 4 hours right?

If I am right then I won't worry about the reliability of SN, because I saw some people still alive after 4 hours so that's why I am worried so much.

And does SN cause gasping for air or choking?

Thanks for answers :)
golfmavenice

This is my plan too. Fingers crossed that what I ordered is as pure as advertised, and that all the prep meds ease the sickness and burning enough for me to withstand it. I read it was a peaceful way all over the place, ordered it, and then found the awful stories....

 

[golfmavenice]

Why not swallow the propranolol like the other pills, just as they are? I think that is what is recommended.

This is my plan too. Fingers crossed that what I ordered is as pure as advertised, and that all the prep meds ease the sickness and burning enough for me to withstand it. I read it was a peaceful way all over the place, ordered it, and then found the awful stories...

Why not swallow the propranolol like the other pills, just as they are? I think that is what is recommended.

This is my plan too. Fingers crossed that what I ordered is as pure as advertised, and that all the prep meds ease the sickness and burning enough for me to withstand it. I read it was a peaceful way all over the place, ordered it, and then found the awful stories....

If you read the peaceful pill handbook it says that short acting versions of propranolol is not suitable for use in SN. This means you have to crush propranolol and dissolve it SN and take it in the same mixture.
Crushed propranolol = fast acting
Swallowing propranolol = short acting

 

[headspin]

If you read the peaceful pill handbook it says that short acting versions of propranolol is not suitable for use in SN. This means you have to crush propranolol and dissolve it SN and take it in the same mixture.
Crushed propranolol = fast acting
Swallowing propranolol = short acting

I was thinking of taking it 30-40 minutes beforehand.

 

[Cathy Ames]

I don't believe one can absolutely count on the 4-hour time frame. I found a published account where the person was still alive after taking it "up to six hours prior," but she did subsequently die, despite treatment. The hypothesized time frame was based on a note that she wrote. Of course it might have been taken less than four hours before she was discovered, as that amount of time is less than six hours, right?

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/352888176_Fatal_Methaemoglobinaemia_Due_To_Intentional_Sodium_Nitrite_Poisoning