Practice hanging?

[Seaofsleep]

I've seen a lot of mention of practicing hanging and wondered if this is something I should be doing as part of my.. research.
I think as hanging will be my method (using pull-up bar in hotel room) as no other options seem to be accessible, I'm worried that practicing should 'fail' and leave me without a solution. Having a solution in mind helps my anxiety and idk how I'd cope with discovering it's not gonna be doable.
Even though I know for sure this is ultimately what I want, I'm trying not to overthink the whole thing as I feel like excessive planning will only freak me out but I also don't want it to get to the actual day to find out this method isn't going to work for me.
Idk.. is it worth trying beforehand? Any tips..

 

[AreWeWinning]

I've seen a lot of mention of practicing hanging and wondered if this is something I should be doing as part of my.. research.
I think as hanging will be my method (using pull-up bar in hotel room) as no other options seem to be accessible, I'm worried that practicing should 'fail' and leave me without a solution. Having a solution in mind helps my anxiety and idk how I'd cope with discovering it's not gonna be doable.
Even though I know for sure this is ultimately what I want, I'm trying not to overthink the whole thing as I feel like excessive planning will only freak me out but I also don't want it to get to the actual day to find out this method isn't going to work for me.
Idk.. is it worth trying beforehand? Any tips..

There are different things you might want to practice.

You can practice passing out. It's not strictly necessary, but it can help you gain trust and confidence in hanging as a method. It should be done by not fixing the rope to an anchor point, but holding the other end in your hand, so that the setup releases if you pass out and you don't accidentally kill yourself. Also, make sure to use a noose that releases easily, like a Running Bowline. The Noose Knot is not the safest choice, but can be OK. Do not use a Poacher's Knot, because that can get stuck in a tight position.

You can also practice tying the knots and test whether your anchor point is strong enough. I would highly recommend doing this. For hanging to work, it's critical that your anchor point and your knots work as expected and don't fail. If the anchor point, the knots, and the rope are strong enough and they hold, hanging is a pretty certain way to die. However, the setup must be able to hold your weight securely. It's a good idea to practice tying the setup and testing it under load. To test it under load, you can put your wrist in the noose and pull your legs up. You can also leave enough rope so that it reaches the ground, and you can step into it with your foot, applying your full body weight.

If you want to keep it simple, you could skip testing passing out. On the other hand, I wouldn't recommend skipping testing the setup and practicing tying the knots, just because you're afraid it might fail. That would be exactly the point of testing. If it fails, you want to find that out beforehand and correct the problem before your attempt. You wouldn't want your setup to fail during your attempt.

 

[Seaofsleep]

There are different things you might want to practice.

You can practice passing out. It's not strictly necessary, but it can help you gain trust and confidence in hanging as a method. It should be done by not fixing the rope to an anchor point, but holding the other end in your hand, so that the setup releases if you pass out and you don't accidentally kill yourself. Also, make sure to use a noose that releases easily, like a Running Bowline. The Noose Knot is not the safest choice, but can be OK. Do not use a Poacher's Knot, because that can get stuck in a tight position.

You can also practice tying the knots and test whether your anchor point is strong enough. I would highly recommend doing this. For hanging to work, it's critical that your anchor point and your knots work as expected and don't fail. If the anchor point, the knots, and the rope are strong enough and they hold, hanging is a pretty certain way to die. However, the setup must be able to hold your weight securely. It's a good idea to practice tying the setup and testing it under load. To test it under load, you can put your wrist in the noose and pull your legs up. You can also leave enough rope so that it reaches the ground, and you can step into it with your foot, applying your full body weight.

If you want to keep it simple, you could skip testing passing out. On the other hand, I wouldn't recommend skipping testing the setup and practicing tying the knots, just because you're afraid it might fail. That would be exactly the point of testing. If it fails, you want to find that out beforehand and correct the problem before your attempt. You wouldn't want your setup to fail during your attempt.

Thank you. This is helpful

 

[Worndown]

The "good news" is that a hanging practice failure usually means you are dead.
If it means you fell to the floor, it was a success in that you found a problem before it was a problem.
Half of practice is working out the bugs. The other half is getting comfortable with the process and feel.

 

[Seaofsleep]

@tanshakti for some reason private message not available to me.

The "good news" is that a hanging practice failure usually means you are dead.
If it means you fell to the floor, it was a success in that you found a problem before it was a problem.
Half of practice is working out the bugs. The other half is getting comfortable with the process and feel.

It's the not being able to find the 'sweet spot' that worries me. Guess there's only one way to find out.

 

[tanshakti]

@tanshakti for some reason private message not available to me.

sorry to hear that, i read somewhere here of minimum 5 posts and message replies should allow that, im new too but thankfully it was enabled for me.

in any case we can discuss here. i am planner/ over-thinker like you. i will be using pullup bar like you. my concerns are as follows
- will pullup bar within the door of hotel room give enough space form feet to floor
-practice slip knot but anchor point pullup bar needs strong knot (poacher/bowline knot is recommended) but i feel like strong enough rope with doble knots should also work??
-testing by winging for anchor point
-noise convulsions manage the noise , timing for atleast an hour of uninterruptible time by monitoring for couple of days, tieing legs with tape
-minimize cleanup operations and cost
and have some more questions, my anxiety is to make sure its not a failure --cuz thats not an option. Im in the US are you from here too ?

 

[Seaofsleep]

sorry to hear that, i read somewhere here of minimum 5 posts and message replies should allow that, im new too but thankfully it was enabled for me.

in any case we can discuss here. i am planner/ over-thinker like you. i will be using pullup bar like you. my concerns are as follows
- will pullup bar within the door of hotel room give enough space form feet to floor
-practice slip knot but anchor point pullup bar needs strong knot (poacher/bowline knot is recommended) but i feel like strong enough rope with doble knots should also work??
-testing by winging for anchor point
-noise convulsions manage the noise , timing for atleast an hour of uninterruptible time by monitoring for couple of days, tieing legs with tape
-minimize cleanup operations and cost
and have some more questions, my anxiety is to make sure its not a failure --cuz thats not an option. Im in the US are you from here too ?

This is all stuff that has occurred to me too, ha! I guess I'm early on in the planning phase as I still have a couple of months before I can leave, so keeping it like a project to work on over that time and doing as much research as possible. I find it kinda comforting. My next step now would probably be to acquire the right kind of rope.
I'm hoping my messages will open soon so we can keep in touch? I'm in U.K.. Will keep posting and see if that works!
Thanks for sharing.

 

[tanshakti]

This is all stuff that has occurred to me too, ha! I guess I'm early on in the planning phase as I still have a couple of months before I can leave, so keeping it like a project to work on over that time and doing as much research as possible. I find it kinda comforting. My next step now would probably be to acquire the right kind of rope.
I'm hoping my messages will open soon so we can keep in touch? I'm in U.K.. Will keep posting and see if that works!
Thanks for sharing.

yeah me im couple of months away myself to complete some end of life obligations but in parallel researching and planning as i dont want to prolong but want to ensure ctb is final

 

[Seaofsleep]

yeah me im couple of months away myself to complete some end of life obligations but in parallel researching and planning as i dont want to prolong but want to ensure ctb

Same. I'm not a great planner although I over think, so I think pacing myself like this is the best way to ensure a fail proof end.

 

[tanshakti]

Same. I'm not a great planner although I over think, so I think pacing myself like this is the best way to ensure a fail proof end.

I hear you, its a draining inner dialogue but it helps getting to concrete pathways and getting helpful answers. are you Male or female? not that it matters we can help each other by sharing learnings, Im a male in 40s

 

[Seaofsleep]

I hear you, its a draining inner dialogue but it helps getting to concrete pathways and getting helpful answers. are you Male or female? not that it matters we can help each other by sharing learnings, Im a male in 40s

Totally. Female 29, hoping to be outta here before 30 hits. Had more than enough already

 

[tanshakti]

Totally. Female 29, hoping to be outta here before 30 hits. Had more than enough already

yep enough is more than enough, in this cruel meaningless world. feel free to ask questions i have done some extensive research on method atleast i can try to answer what i know and help with the overthinking