Method Possible to do full suspension or partial hanging from this door?

[LonelyKitten]

Hiyo.

So I got this rope, it's 20mm thick, 5 meters long, cotton.
Figured out how to make a knot that I think will hold, from testing at least, it does.

My issue is, I don't know where to use it from - the only place I can find is this door. (pictures are in spoiler)
I think it won't come off the handle, but I imagine that involuntary convulsions would inevitably make the part going around the top of the door fall off the left side, violently dropping me onto the floor.

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Is there some kind of item I could use to keep it held in place at the top of the door?
Any suggestions? Would be much appreciated

I'm thinking/hoping this would work for either full-suspension or partial hanging - I can lower most of the rope on the handle end to the point it'd be tight and I'd have to get a chair to even put the other end on me.
If only I can make sure the rope does not slip off the side at the top... (unless any other weaknesses are apparent?)

 

[Foreverix]

When you close the door, does it pinch the rope at all? The rope looks thick enough that with the door closed, the frame should pinch it. You also have to think that when it's pulled down with dead weight, is it really going to slip to the side enough to fall? If you think it will, try to use something to fill the gap, or cut a notch in the top of the door.

I would weight test it though. Just grab the rope and hang with all your body weight with the door closed. I would be most worried about the sturdiness of the door and especially the handle, since it's the anchor point. It looks very flimsy. Does the rope stretch? And is this for partial or fsh?

 

[Rorochan_200★]

maybe some very strong tape or superglue could work if the doorframe cant pinch it?
also i love your pfp ✩

Hiyo.

So I got this rope, it's 20mm thick, 5 meters long, cotton.
Figured out how to make a knot that I think will hold, from testing at least, it does.

My issue is, I don't know where to use it from - the only place I can find is this door. (pictures are in spoiler)
I think it won't come off the handle, but I imagine that involuntary convulsions would inevitably make the part going around the top of the door fall off the left side, violently dropping me onto the floor.

Spoiler

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Is there some kind of item I could use to keep it held in place at the top of the door?
Any suggestions? Would be much appreciated

I'm thinking/hoping this would work for either full-suspension or partial hanging - I can lower most of the rope on the handle end to the point it'd be tight and I'd have to get a chair to even put the other end on me.
If only I can make sure the rope does not slip off the side at the top... (unless any other weaknesses are apparent?)

 

[LonelyKitten]

When you close the door, does it pinch the rope at all? The rope looks thick enough that with the door closed, the frame should pinch it. You also have to think that when it's pulled down with dead weight, is it really going to slip to the side enough to fall? If you think it will, try to use something to fill the gap, or cut a notch in the top of the door.

I would weight test it though. Just grab the rope and hang with all your body weight with the door closed. I would be most worried about the sturdiness of the door and especially the handle, since it's the anchor point. It looks very flimsy. Does the rope stretch? And is this for partial or fsh?

What do you mean by pinch? The door certainly does not close, or squeeze the rope at all because it is so thick.
During my testing the door does tend to, well, open.

I'm mainly aiming for full-suspension.
I feel like partial would have too much room for error here - if the pressure loosens up after I pass out (rope sliding, bad positioning), I'd worry about surviving with brain damage.

Stretching... It barely does, no.
In one test, I accidentally kicked away the chair and was almost stuck, but the knot wasn't tight enough yet, and the rope was low enough I could get out of it.
I did another test, knot tight, rope high.
Had to be extremely careful - even with just one foot off the chair, it tightened very strongly around my neck.
The more I struggled the more it seemed to get tighter.
Got minor rope burns and coughing from just a few seconds - I think this method will work like this!

As far as durability goes - there were no issues during my own body tests, as well as, I let a 23 kg suitcase hang there for over 20 minutes - so at least I know both the handle and rope can sustain half my weight for a good amount of time.
It's sort of a meme in Germany that doors and walls are sturdy here, so I do have faith in this aspect.

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maybe some very strong tape or superglue could work if the doorframe cant pinch it?
also i love your pfp ✩

Oh thank you, I like this idea! I have some t-rex tape - I could use that to help fix things in place on the handle and the top.
Also thanks uwu I been loving that video lately. Nice username :P

 

[LonelyKitten]

Updates about my method:
I've included the use of t-rex tape at various points to hold the rope in place.

I also happen to own 2 metal handcuffs without safety releases, so I can use those to cuff my hands and feet to avoid any thrashing/struggling-related SI saves.

Finally, I have received some SN!
I made 3 bottles, 30g in each.
Those can be on the ground, in case I somehow find myself waking up collapsed (like the rope broke or smth?), to absolutely ensure I won't survive with brain damage or anything.
It shouldn't be hard to unscrew a bottle or two and down it, even if I'm largely unable to move.
Since I can only test that the rope can hold half my body weight (~23kg), it's nice to have another assurance measure in place.
I do own an antiemetic and a calming med (which is also an antiemetic itself. I couldn't get a hold of anything proper like benzos, meto, zofran, etc.), so I guess putting those on the floor too might be a good idea?
Sort of, if I did wake up, take that, wait a little, then try the SN?

Pictures are in the spoiler.

I feel very confident that this set up can take me away ^_^

Spoiler: Pics

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1049678465818963998/1172536712111587418/DSC_0480.jpg?ex=6560ace8&is=654e37e8&hm=e4b4f0c05ce61fd9f458b14e59411dc4a9bb204d4ca3f5c91e0922ac9939b647&

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[Weltall]

Updates about my method:
I've included the use of t-rex tape at various points to hold the rope in place.

I also happen to own 2 metal handcuffs without safety releases, so I can use those to cuff my hands and feet to avoid any thrashing/struggling-related SI saves.

Finally, I have received some SN!
I made 3 bottles, 30g in each.
Those can be on the ground, in case I somehow find myself waking up collapsed (like the rope broke or smth?), to absolutely ensure I won't survive with brain damage or anything.
It shouldn't be hard to unscrew a bottle or two and down it, even if I'm largely unable to move.
Since I can only test that the rope can hold half my body weight (~23kg), it's nice to have another assurance measure in place.
I do own an antiemetic and a calming med (which is also an antiemetic itself. I couldn't get a hold of anything proper like benzos, meto, zofran, etc.), so I guess putting those on the floor too might be a good idea?
Sort of, if I did wake up, take that, wait a little, then try the SN?

Pictures are in the spoiler.

I feel very confident that this set up can take me away ^_^

Spoiler: Pics

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1049678465818963998/1172536712111587418/DSC_0480.jpg?ex=6560ace8&is=654e37e8&hm=e4b4f0c05ce61fd9f458b14e59411dc4a9bb204d4ca3f5c91e0922ac9939b647&

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1049678465818963998/1172536712862388274/DSC_0481.jpg?ex=6560ace9&is=654e37e9&hm=7e2ab9169d76df317f81a38deea318bda920b8d9fbd02fe9f756c117bbf67f7d&

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1049678465818963998/1172536713344712704/DSC_0482.jpg?ex=6560ace9&is=654e37e9&hm=7e6ca6909839e8f4458eac1c785acd01233680e02752908b0f247bd621d362fb&

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1049678465818963998/1172598990605402202/DSC_0502.jpg?ex=6560e6e9&is=654e71e9&hm=a6443087e5a279085a7457befe2a38ee3e892d5ce1938d7dac84a2a2f99fc151&

Those cuffs do not look comfortable, and would honestly give me anxiety.
You seem content with your plan, but just remember you have a choice.
And no matter the choice, I'll provide you support when you need it.

 

[MatthieuFrederickW]

Good idea with the tape, I'm doing that aswell when the day arrives. From what I've seen of hanging videos (full and partial) the term "thrashing" is an over exaggeration for sure lol. Anyways, best of luck.

 

[LonelyKitten]

Those cuffs do not look comfortable, and would honestly give me anxiety.
You seem content with your plan, but just remember you have a choice.

They're rough cuffs, I find them comfortable.
Much prefer them over the fluffy cuffs I used to have, and those had a safety release, so that wouldn't work for this method.
I'm sure once I'm in the set up and the chair is gone, anxiety and all would naturally set in.

But if I can fully beat the fears, the doubts, the second, third and fourth thoughts, for all moments before kicking off, it means my decision was sound - considering all the everything I've put into trying otherwise.
It's been a constant, constant juggling act between developing secure methods, and planning for potential recovery.
I am so tapped at this point, I just feel hopeless. I'd love to see more, but all the ways out seem closed off now...

Good idea with the tape, I'm doing that aswell when the day arrives. From what I've seen of hanging videos (full and partial) the term "thrashing" is an over exaggeration for sure lol. Anyways, best of luck.

Oh really? That's comforting to know, thank you for sharing that information. If the thrashing is not that strong, surely the setup can't be disrupted fully shackled, then.

 

[Weltall]

They're rough cuffs, I find them comfortable.
Much prefer them over the fluffy cuffs I used to have, and those had a safety release, so that wouldn't work for this method.
I'm sure once I'm in the set up and the chair is gone, anxiety and all would naturally set in.

But if I can fully beat the fears, the doubts, the second, third and fourth thoughts, for all moments before kicking off, it means my decision was sound - considering all the everything I've put into trying otherwise.
It's been a constant, constant juggling act between developing secure methods, and planning for potential recovery.
I am so tapped at this point, I just feel hopeless. I'd love to see more, but all the ways out seem closed off now...


Oh really? That's comforting to know, thank you for sharing that information. If the thrashing is not that strong, surely the setup can't be disrupted fully shackled, then.

I personally don't consider all attempts and fruitions sound.
I don't know your life, but I understand the exhaustion and futility.
It's easy to be trapped in a downward spiral of despair, and always feeling like that darkness is your norm.

There are cases where actions could have been done to help those who originally thought it was impossible.
Just keep approaching this at a rational level until then.

 

[LonelyKitten]

Just keep approaching this at a rational level until then.

Er... I'm getting very odd vibes from your posts.
This is a pro-choice forum.
I don't have to justify myself here, like in the judgmental, non-understanding regular society.

I have thought it through plenty rational.
I don't wanna fucking die. I love life.
This isn't my life anymore though.
Immigration is yes or no. Hard border.
Can't get a visa?
The US has become a fortress.
They even banned regular asylum claims at the southern border... during a Democratic administration... (while the northern border has the "Safe Third Country Agreement") good luck waiting in Mexico for indefinite periods of time, trying to get an appointment via a goddamn *phone app*, putting yourself at extreme risk on all fronts, whether you end up getting an appt or not (lack of safety, loss of all belongings, indefinite detention, expedited removal, ...)

sigh. That had to come out, sorry.
In some ways, I won't disagree, though.
If I had thought it all thru before committing to suicide 15 months ago... We wouldn't be having this conversation.

 

[Weltall]

Er... I'm getting very odd vibes from your posts.
This is a pro-choice forum.
I don't have to justify myself here, like in the judgmental, non-understanding regular society.

I have thought it through plenty rational.
I don't wanna fucking die. I love life.
This isn't my life anymore though.
Immigration is yes or no. Hard border.
Can't get a visa?
The US has become a fortress.
They even banned regular asylum claims at the border... *during a Democratic administration*... good luck waiting in Mexico for indefinite periods of time, trying to get an appointment via a goddamn *phone app*, putting yourself at extreme risk on all fronts, whether you end up getting an appt or not (lack of safety, loss of all belongings, indefinite detention, expedited removal, ...)

sigh. That had to come out, sorry.
In some ways, I won't disagree, though.
If I had thought it all thru before committing to suicide 15 months ago... We wouldn't be having this conversation.

I am human, so if I come off as trying to force an agenda, then that's not the case.
I just want to ensure that whoever is seeking an end have approached their issues rationally rather than being blinded by their emotions.
I'm not telling anyone to stop, because like you said, this is a choice.
My way of dealing with suicidal thoughts has been to try and help others.

If you'd like to talk about your problems, or just need to vent and be heard, feel free to PM me.
I'll support whatever choice you choose

 

[MatthieuFrederickW]

Oh really? That's comforting to know, thank you for sharing that information. If the thrashing is not that strong, surely the setup can't be disrupted fully shackled, then.

Yep According to the few hanging videos I've seen. "Thrashing" to me is more like the arms and legs aggressively flailing around all over the place like a fight or flight response, quick sudden movements, whereas in reality it seems to be more what I'd call sluggish/gentler movements, but still enough that it could cause knots to loosen if improperly tied. Personally, I'd still take the precautionary measures to make your setup as secure as possible, plan for the worst as if your body will very aggressively be "thrashing" around while unconscious. Seems like you have a good setup though. hope that make sense I'm not the best at explaining stuff lol