Police Arrived - Again (UK) 😭

[itsallogrenow]

You're all probably sick of my posts now but I feel like I want to keep people updated.

Police have come again saying that I've ordered another set of SN after the one i ordered on the 1st April, which I haven't. It's only the two I've done so far.

This second notfication apparently came from Royal Mail this time so they are involved too. They have the tracking number for the parcel and they know its currently still in Ukraine.

Fucking bullshit.

 

[bipp]

im really sorry about that man I hope all goes well for you, wishing you a safe journey if you ever do end up getting the SN

 

[mark_b]

Sorry you have to go through all of this mate. It's bad enough having to order something like SN and then you get a visit from police... I wonder if police has nothing better to do. From the outside it looks like your country has more serious problems than a bunch of people purchasing a substance with which they won't harm someone else.

 

[thelostautistic]

Omg when are you gonna get a break

 

[CatLvr]

That is SUCH bullshit. I'm really sorry you are going through this.

 

[Dawns]

What did they say when they arrived? sounds like such a hassle i'm so sorry

 

[itsallogrenow]

What did they say when they arrived? sounds like such a hassle i'm so sorry

They said that they had another notification that I'd ordered SN again.

Explained that the police already came again for this and they were already aware. That i hadnt ordered SN since then so i was confused. They were apparently going to get in touch with mental health services last week but ofc they didn't do that...

Thats when they spoke to each other and mentioned the notification had come from Royal Mail.

Gave the whole spiel a out wanting to help and I told them I'm tired of hearing that from people

They tried to ask me questions but I refused to answer. They wanted to know where I'm ordering it from.

Then when they weren't getting anywhere with me, they spoke to my mum (I went upstairs) and they left.

 

[FuneralCry]

That is just so terrible, it truly is the most horrific world where those people want to do all they can to force others to suffer in this dreadful, torturous existence, anti-suicide is just terrible extreme cruelty, there's so much cruelty in how humans have made it a crime to die peacefully with the suffering and torture of existing seen as to force and prolong no matter what.

 

[thelostautistic]

I don't understand why they are asking where we order from. They obviously know that already or they wouldn't be at our doors

 

[itsallogrenow]

I don't understand why they are asking where we order from. They obviously know that already or they wouldn't be at our doors

Yeah it's ridiculous.

One of the police officers asked me if to show him the order stuff on my.phone. Like fuck off, you've got the information already, what more do you want?

 

[Fresh Soju]

Gave the whole spiel a out wanting to help and I told them I'm tired of hearing that from people

The "help" is always so lackluster. even more so when you have complex issues which will take a lot of time and money to fix, or are just totally out of reach no matter what.

Maybe they'd have a point about helping if anyone caught buying SN to end themselves got like $1M worth of help a year, but all you get is starved mental or physical healthcare systems trying to slap a bandaid on whatever you're going through so you can bleed out slower.

 

[Samira_Hura]

How sad all these persecutions are!

 

[Dayrain]

I don't understand why they are asking where we order from. They obviously know that already or they wouldn't be at our doors

One of the police officers asked me if to show him the order stuff on my.phone. Like fuck off, you've got the information already, what more do you want?

I think not every officer knows everything. I think those that do these welfare checks are not in high positions, rather very low ranks? They probably don't get told everything by superiors. So they maybe do things for their own interest or to appear before superiors with commitment to maybe get to a higher rank.

 

[itsallogrenow]

The "help" is always so lackluster. even more so when you have complex issues which will take a lot of time and money to fix, or are just totally out of reach no matter what.

Maybe they'd have a point about helping if anyone caught buying SN to end themselves got like $1M worth of help a year, but all you get is starved mental or physical healthcare systems trying to slap a bandaid on whatever you're going through so you can bleed out slower.

The first time they came, they asked if I had heard of the Crisis team and that they could support me as all problems are solvable and I have a long life ahead of me...

I told them I was literally with them 2 months ago and they were useless and I've been wanting to die for 20 years. They had absolutely nothing to say after that

I'm riddle with mental health issues, physical issues, deal with racism, homophobia, shit job w/ no prospects, the world is dog shit...

Letting me die is better than forcing me to live against my will.

 

[thelostautistic]

I think not every officer knows everything. I think those that do these welfare checks are not in high positions, rather very low ranks? They probably don't get told everything by superiors. So they maybe do things for their own interest or to appear before superiors with commitment to maybe get to a higher rank.

That's probably true but I meant the police force as a whole know where it's coming from. They wouldn't send officers to do welfare checks if they didn't know

 

[The Dead Line]

The don't want to improve the quality of life but they want you to be a salve for multi millionaire people. For someone reason S exposes the reality of the show. For some reason you have no rights to say goodbye to this world. Why? Because they want the machine to keep running. Without farmers no rice would sit on the rich man table. We got it ! We got that there many happy people around the world with $1000000 in their bank account but for me I am not happy. If you don't feel comfortable in a hotel you leave. But here ? It is hard to do.

 

[insectontrial]

Hi - I'm also British and UK-based. How are the police finding out that you are attempting to buy this? I've been wanting to do so for some time, but if packages are being intercepted then that will of course cause problems.

 

[voc_89]

The UK took thought police literally. Sucks at what it has become

 

[jojobanana]

Yeah it's ridiculous.

One of the police officers asked me if to show him the order stuff on my.phone. Like fuck off, you've got the information already, what more do you want?

i'm really proud of you for standing your ground. they're "just helping" attitude is sickening considering the fact that they've probably violated your privacy and rights in every way possible already.

 

[voc_89]

Hi - I'm also British and UK-based. How are the police finding out that you are attempting to buy this? I've been wanting to do so for some time, but if packages are being intercepted then that will of course cause problems.

my thoughts are they have really sophisticated software to monitor various actions of individuals. So its not just social media and age verification. Its in many arms of internet interaction or builds off things u already flagged for (example, if this person already flagged for being on sites like this, flag all their purchases)

 

[insectontrial]

my thoughts are they have really sophisticated software to monitor various actions of individuals. So its not just social media and age verification. Its in many arms of internet interaction or builds off things u already flagged for (example, if this person already flagged for being on sites like this, flag all their purchases)

Ah, not ideal at all. I can't have my parents knowing. I will hold off for now in that case. One of my plans at present involves FSH, but I've been doing a fair bit of research into SN and it seems like a very effective method that I would not be able to back out of once I've initiated the steps.

I just think our government and police force should keep their noses out of it. Given the way this country and society in general treats people like myself, I'd be doing them all a favour.

 

[voc_89]

Ah, not ideal at all. I can't have my parents knowing. I will hold off for now in that case. One of my plans at present involves FSH, but I've been doing a fair bit of research into SN and it seems like a very effective method that I would not be able to back out of once I've initiated the steps.

I just think our government and police force should keep their noses out of it. Given the way this country and society in general treats people like myself, I'd be doing them all a favour.

For me I am an old romantic. Jumping at height. I work in a 22 storey building. I'm also a floor/safety warden (funny i know) so i know how to by-pass the safety mechanisms to get to the top. So I am just 1 really bad day away from doing it. Sigh. I agree, the government and police should stay the heck out of our issues and beliefs. But I think these guys can't help it or refuse to understand us. So we will always be perceived as the ones in the wrong as they in the majority (normal thinking people). If i recall, in the past, rather than just creating a peaceful way for people like us to pass on, they rather made us vegetables (that is, lobotomise us). Like really. How is that better than what we wanted to do? Sigh. This world. But UK has it bad. In my place of the world (not saying for safety reasons) if they ever knew I was on this site I would be institutionalised already. So I get you guys pain when it comes to countries over-reacting on people with our thoughts

 

[TooMuchHasHappened]

Hi - I'm also British and UK-based. How are the police finding out that you are attempting to buy this? I've been wanting to do so for some time, but if packages are being intercepted then that will of course cause problems.

In my opinion, either DSL's activities are being monitored by the authorities, or Customs and/or Royal Mail are alerting the police, the latter being the most probable explanation as I can't see the Ukrainian authorities being concerned about SN (it's not illegal), especially considering what's going on in their country. I'm sure they've got more important things to worry about than alerting U.K authorities to the fact that one of their citizens is sending SN to the U.K. But I could be wrong.

 

[Harrier]

i'm really proud of you for standing your ground. they're "just helping" attitude is sickening considering the fact that they've probably violated your privacy and rights in every way possible already.

I think it might be easier to tell law enforcement no here in the U.S.

We have a "right to be silent" and a "right to privacy" that may not be present in other countries.

I am amazed about the stuff I am able to type on a forum here in the States, which gets people in UK put behind bars.

 

[fadedghost]

I don't understand why they are asking where we order from. They obviously know that already or they wouldn't be at our doors

It's also possible they don't know and they just know the origination address, which is constant.

ie, somehow customs finds out 1 parcel has SN through routine inspection

then they flag anything coming from "100 Real Road, Realtown, Real County" and anything that comes from that address from then on gets the police to show up

 

[Harrier]

Of course, plenty of people don't say no to U.S. cops.

I have been asked to have my property searched 3 times.

Once, I gave permission. Nothing found

Another, I didn't. They backed off.

Another I said no. Nothing found, but I spent 8 hours in jail just because I challenged the search.

Just because we have constitutional rights doesn't mean that cops will respect them.

 

[insectontrial]

In my opinion, either DSL's activities are being monitored by the authorities, or Customs and/or Royal Mail are alerting the police, the latter being the most probable explanation as I can't see the Ukrainian authorities being concerned about SN (it's not illegal), especially considering what's going on in their country. I'm sure they've got more important things to worry about than alerting U.K authorities to the fact that one of their citizens is sending SN to the U.K. But I could be wrong.

The latter would not surprise me. Perhaps there could be some way within which DSL conceal the contents. I am familiar with companies which conceal the products they sell for privacy reasons (eg. the "toys for adults only" industry) so I wonder if this would not be too difficult. However I am afraid I do not know much about the Ukrainian legal system.