Podcast No5 – 24 May 2020 The Lethal Salts – Part II

[x-Ace-x]

The new podcast by PPH authors Philip Nitschke & Fiona Stewart about lethal salts is out in case you're interested.

 

[ArtsyDrawer]

Some brave human dared to approach Nitschke despite him being labeled as Dr. Death?
Is this Nitschke's podcast, or is it Stewart going "oooh! Look at this crazy death obsessed alien! OOOooooOoOoOh!!!"?

 

[Skyview]

The new podcast by PPH authors Philip Nitschke & Fiona Stewart about lethal salts is out in case you're interested.

Thank you for posting this podcast

George witnessed his 70 yr wife Susan taking SN , 5 min to loss of consciousness and 30 min to death .
George also stated that he would have no hesitation in using SN , the process was peaceful .

 

[GerMann]

Seems to be a relativ peaceful experience, I must read the chapter "Antiemetic" again.

 

[Borabora]

The new podcast by PPH authors Philip Nitschke & Fiona Stewart about lethal salts is out in case you're interested.

Thank you for uploading. Good to hear Exit accounts of people who successfully ctb using SN in addition to accounts here, to make informed decisions.

 

[Kumachan]

thats extremely useful info thanks for posting!

 

[KiraLittleOwl]

That was interesting, thank you

 

[someonewillhelpme]

In this podcast, did George mention omeprazole as the anti-emetic. Just wanted to make sure I heard him right

 

[x-Ace-x]

In this podcast, did George mention omeprazole as the anti-emetic. Just wanted to make sure I heard him right

I've heard she took 30mg of Omeprazole

 

[ceelo]

i have a motility disorder that makes it hard to burp let alone vomit and a stash of prescribed domperidone, i should be fine. I also have prescribed diazepam i never touched, how much would you guys recommend?

In this podcast, did George mention omeprazole as the anti-emetic. Just wanted to make sure I heard him right

omeprazole is a proton pump inhibitor not anti emetic

 

[Cupcake]

i have a motility disorder that makes it hard to burp let alone vomit and a stash of prescribed domperidone, i should be fine. I also have prescribed diazepam i never touched, how much would you guys recommend?

omeprazole is a proton pump inhibitor not anti emetic

Thanks for posting this podcast, I found it extremely informative and useful. It gives me a great deal of peace of mind about this method, primarily its peacefulness. You rock!

 

[x-Ace-x]

i have a motility disorder that makes it hard to burp let alone vomit and a stash of prescribed domperidone, i should be fine. I also have prescribed diazepam i never touched, how much would you guys recommend?

omeprazole is a proton pump inhibitor not anti emetic

Sadly can't answer your question. I'd say depending on the condition of disorder, you may still be able to use this method but there needs to be someone knowing more than I do. Would recommend creating a new thread to get more answers instead of writing here.

 

[ceelo]

Sadly can't answer your question. I'd say depending on the condition of disorder, you may still be able to use this method but there needs to be someone knowing more than I do. Would recommend creating a new thread to get more answers instead of writing here.

i was asking about diazepam, my condition is a benefit for this method

 

[Huntfish34]

I'd think... That the diazepam would be a Great help for ya in terms of anxiety / any nerves that you may have. Idk... Just my .02.

Thanks for posting this Ace. -
Most Appreciated. ❤

 

[autumnal]

Some brave human dared to approach Nitschke despite him being labeled as Dr. Death?
Is this Nitschke's podcast, or is it Stewart going "oooh! Look at this crazy death obsessed alien! OOOooooOoOoOh!!!"?

Wait...what?

 

[HelensNepenthe]

Wait...what?

I'm unsure where any of these self claims came from. I also find anyone comparing him to "Elon Musk" laughable. Elon is a genuine brick with a bunch of money paying people to do work for him while taking all credit as this 'Tony Stark' kind of guy.

 

[Nem]

Don't trust that Nitchske guy, the pphb was a waste of 85.00, I'd like to see Nitschke take the sn. Thanks for the informative posting though!!!
Peace/hugs

 

[ArtsyDrawer]

Wait...what?

Quite some time ago UK media (I think) thought it'd be fun to call him Dr. Death to make him more of a bad guy and scare him, or some shit. Unexpectedly, he accepted the title.

 

[enjolras]

The prequel episode all in one place



"5 minutes to unconscious" : can the author rights be acquired ?

I'm unsure where any of these self claims came from. I also find anyone comparing him to "Elon Musk" laughable. Elon is a genuine brick with a bunch of money paying people to do work for him while taking all credit as this 'Tony Stark' kind of guy.
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Elon is insanity incarnated. PayPal is a helluva embezzlement scam in history. He shortcuitied the banks and credit card companies to apply indirect tax onto people. I see nothing but a psychopath the humanity didn't need.

 

[autumnal]

Don't trust that Nitchske guy, the pphb was a waste of 85.00, I'd like to see Nitschke take the sn. Thanks for the informative posting though!!!
Peace/hugs

You don't trust him and would wish death upon him just because you thought his book was too expensive?

 

[Nem]

You don't trust him and would wish death upon him just because you thought his book was too expensive?

Who are you? Like seriously, I see you pick people apart like wtf?!
the book was outdated

 

[autumnal]

Who are you? Like seriously, I see you pick people apart like wtf?!
the book was outdated

Your reaction seemed very strong based solely on the cost of his book. So I asked for further clarification. I wouldn't call it 'picking people apart', and I wouldn't expect someone to have made such a strong assertion if they weren't willing to explain it.

I'm curious as to which parts did you consider were outdated exactly?

 

[WhatIsMyLife]

Don't trust that Nitchske guy, the pphb was a waste of 85.00, I'd like to see Nitschke take the sn. Thanks for the informative posting though!!!
Peace/hugs

The book is available in the resource section of the site. I understand supporting Exit, but you could've given a flick through online to determine if it was worth purchasing.

 

[Nem]

The book is available in the resource section of the site. I understand supporting Exit, but you could've given a flick through online to determine if it was worth purchasing.

Bought it just before this site was developed

 

[autumnal]

The prequel episode all in one place

Great podcast, but how massively do Exit International reference their primarily elderly customer base with that old-timey music right at the start?!

 

[Brick In The Wall]

The new podcast by PPH authors Philip Nitschke & Fiona Stewart about lethal salts is out in case you're interested.

Thank you for sharing this podcast. Somewhat interesting, I feel like the information regarding SN is becoming much more comprehensive. It was still somewhat obscure and people didn't talk about it much when I joined this site.

 

[autumnal]

The prequel episode all in one place

One thing I would seek to clarify is Dr Nitschke's statement from the podcast that:

"In fact [SN is] a fairly happy hypoxia because of the fact that there's no accumulation of carbon dioxide...in this instant nitrite brings about a happy hypoxic death".​

I think this has the risk of possibly being misinterpreted by both listeners there and members here. I will note that I am addressing this statement on face value and haven't listened to earlier podcasts where he says he has discussed 'happy hypoxia' previously.

Hypoxia from accumulation of carbon dioxide, such as that caused by suffocation, is distressing and 'unhappy' due to increasing carbon dioxide levels being what triggers our feelings of oxygen starvation and survival instinct.

Hypoxia from the methemoglobinemia caused by SN does not involve increasing carbon dioxide levels and so does not trigger any survival instinct. It is not distressing, and could be more accurately described as 'neutral'.

I think that describing the hypoxia from SN as 'happy' is potentially a little misleading, in that most people would equate a happy death as being from something that actually creates feelings of happiness or euphoria, such as opioids or cannabis. A death not involving either extreme of distress or euphoria would best be regarded as neutral, or perhaps even that contentious term 'peaceful'.

Note that this isn't just semantics. Especially on the forum, a minor misunderstanding of the intention behind a term can quickly spiral into cliques and arguments.

 

[Brick In The Wall]

One thing I would seek to clarify is Dr Nitschke's statement from the podcast that:

"In fact [SN is] a fairly happy hypoxia because of the fact that there's no accumulation of carbon dioxide...in this instant nitrite brings about a happy hypoxic death".​

I think this has the risk of possibly being misinterpreted by both listeners there and members here. I will note that I am addressing this statement on face value and haven't listened to earlier podcasts where he says he has discussed 'happy hypoxia' previously.

Hypoxia from accumulation of carbon dioxide, such as that caused by suffocation, is distressing and 'unhappy' due to increasing carbon dioxide levels being what triggers our feelings of oxygen starvation and survival instinct.

Hypoxia from the methemoglobinemia caused by SN does not involve increasing carbon dioxide levels and so does not trigger any survival instinct. It is not distressing, and could be more accurately described as 'neutral'.

I think that describing the hypoxia from SN as 'happy' is potentially a little misleading, in that most people would equate a happy death as being from something that actually creates feelings of happiness or euphoria, such as opioids or cannabis. A death not involving either extreme of distress or euphoria would best be regarded as neutral, or perhaps even that contentious term 'peaceful'.

Note that this isn't just semantics. Especially on the forum, a minor misunderstanding of the intention behind a term can quickly spiral into cliques and arguments.

I caught that bit too and found the wording to be a bit off as well. Neutral does seem a bit more appropriate in this regard.

 

[Deleted member 1465]

Happy? FFS. I do wonder about PNs motivations and mental state sometimes.

 

[Nem]

Your reaction seemed very strong based solely on the cost of his book. So I asked for further clarification. I wouldn't call it 'picking people apart', and I wouldn't expect someone to have made such a strong assertion if they weren't willing to explain it.

I'm curious as to which parts did you consider were outdated exactly?

True enough.
I guess it just seemed less than expected but it is what it is, somewhat of a limited audience so probably not a huge budget. Access to the forum and suppliers was probably worth the cost of the book, I have wasted larger sums of money and received a lot less in return.
Peace/hugs