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The final exit book has a chart with phenobarbital as a possibility to CTB if you mix with other depressants like alcohol. Why isn't this forum talking much about that? It is easier for me to get phenobarb rather than pento.

Edit: I checked, the book says mixed with "more potent drugs" or with alcohol. It's like its saying alcohol and phenobarb will do the trick.
 
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Dusk till dawn

Dusk till dawn

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Sep 7, 2018
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Wouldn't recommend it


The problem with phentobarbital is death happening as a result of hypoxia, and if you survive hypoxia you risk ending up damaging your brain, you could end up disabled, in a vegetative state, suffer from memory loss and such, and thing is, it's slow, it doesn't kill you within 3 hours, i highly advice against using any method that causes hypoxia to your brain, and yes i know SN and nembutal induces death via hypoxia but you die within 3 hours so there's very little to non existence chance of survival in your sleep, phenobarbital is significantly slower than pentobarbital and SN so keep that in mind, though if you manage to find a 100% secluded place and no medical intervention for 30 hours, you would die 100%
 
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Wouldn't recommend it


The problem with phentobarbital is death happening as a result of hypoxia, and if you survive hypoxia you risk ending up damaging your brain, you could end up disabled, in a vegetative state, suffer from memory loss and such, and thing is, it's slow, it doesn't kill you within 3 hours, i highly advice against using any method that causes hypoxia to your brain, and yes i know SN and nembutal induces death via hypoxia but you die within 3 hours so there's very little to non existence chance of survival in your sleep, phenobarbital is significantly slower than pentobarbital and SN so keep that in mind, though if you manage to find a 100% secluded place and no medical intervention for 30 hours, you would die 100%
you die with N and SN within 3 hours ? are there threads that talk about the time here?
 
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Dusk till dawn

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you die with N and SN within 3 hours ? are there threads that talk about the time here?
According to the PPeH, you die in 40 minutes after taking SN with proper preparations (page 122, for reference)

As for nembutal, it really depends on the way you take it, it could be death within 5-10 minutes if taken intravenously (you go to sleep in seconds), or death within 1 hour if taken orally, though there has been reports of people who went into a comatose state sometimes up to 24 hours but that's rare (page 48-49 for reference) 1000018535 1000018533
 
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I had also thought about phenobarbital, since it's a prescription drug (being a barbiturate?!), but then I read a couple of articles where women who ingested several mg in pills didn't die, one of them even being elderly. All of this leads me to think it needs to be combined with something else to enhance the lethal effect and not simply remain an "attempt." In conclusion, it saddens me to know that it's easier, by searching hard, to win the stupid lottery than to get neambutal.
 
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Dusk till dawn

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I've got some news for you. That's how N causes death too.
I know, in fact that's how SN causes death too, but phenobarbital is slow compared to N and SN, if you survive or get rescued because you didn't die fast enough you risk ending up with brain damage, you either do it in a secluded environment or pray you die before you're found and taken to a healthcare facility
 
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intr0verse

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Jan 29, 2021
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It doesn't matter how long it takes to die as long as you die, could be minutes, hours, days. The danger is to be found minutes after you've stopped breathing and revived, then, depending on how long you were not breathing, brain damage is indeed possible (that's true for N too). If you're found unconscious but breathing, no matter how long after ingestion, no brain damage can occur since the brain is never deprived of oxygen; actually, if one doesn't die, barbiturates could be said to be neuro-protective because they reduce neurons activity thus reducing the brain's oxygen demand.
 

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