People who ctb are brave souls.

[Poiter1987]

As per title I've been thinking about this for 6 months and i can't ducking do it. Those people who have managed to succeed are incredibly brave

 

[Forever Sleep]

I believe this also. I suppose the 'normie' population hates this view because it sort of celebrates the act. I think it's very brave though. Those who call it 'cowardly' I doubt have ever seriously considered it.

 

[Praestat_Mori]

Those who managed to do it are admirable.

An honorable suicide is always preferable to suffering.

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

Yes it takes a lot of bravery,courage to kill yourself with any method. U have to risk failure because they made every guaranteed method like someone helping u a crime

Takes Even more courage with violent methods like jumping, burning , gun, train , diving under wheels of truck, knifing , drowning , hanging

A lot of people are afraid of Death

So you have to overcome fear of Death, fear of failure , uncertainty and fear of pain

But they have most people believing suicide is cowardly

They also have most people fearing Death.

And they have many people believing in afterlife ( hell) , reincarnation ( could be a horrible life) , or being uncertain of what happens after Death

I at least am certain after Death is non-existence forever = the only guarantee of never suffering extremely . So eternal non-existence is the only perfection my most desired state to be nothing forever the ultimate bliss

most people can't look down the barrel of loaded shotgun and pull the trigger and explode your head. or even look at videos of that. but they call that cowardly. it's not like the movies. i've shot a shotgun and rifle it's like a bomb exploding in your hands don't know why it sounds and looks so low in videos or movies. you can hear it for blocks. i was shocked the first time i shot a gun and even more a shotgun with a slug

 

[cloperti3345]

As per title I've been thinking about this for 6 months and i can't ducking do it. Those people who have managed to succeed are incredibly brave

The more I consider it, I don't think people who CTB are inherently brave. If anything, they lack the bravery to continue living, which is harder than taking the easy way out.

The point of CTBing is to alleviate suffering. We put dogs down when we feel they are greatly suffering with no end in sight. It's a basic decency that I believe governments and medical professionals should more willingly extend to humans, especially knowing that most people will choose a painful, traumatizing suicide method.

 

[kagebunshin]

Anyone who thinks suicide is taking the easy way out is fucking delusional.

 

[FuneralCry]

I understand as all I hope for is to be gone, I just want to permanently cease existing and never suffer ever again, I wish there's the option to just fall asleep permanently with this cruel, torturous existence finally all forgotten about, for me non-existence really is all that's positive and all I can hope for, I see so much cruelty in how peaceful guaranteed death is denied with the suffering and torture of human existence seen as to force and prolong no matter what.

 

[FadingSnowFake]

Brave yes, also broken and tired souls.

 

[JesiBel]

It really is. It takes a lot of willpower and determination. It's not as easy as most people think. Ending one's own life is overwhelming and turbulent, there is a lot of fear, despair, doubts, guilt...

 

[Knoc]

Anyone who thinks suicide is taking the easy way out is fucking delusional.

Normies speaking from privilige

 

[eattwinkiesseejesus]

We all perceive things differently but personally, I don't think "bravery" and suicide really belong in the same sentence. As a person who has already made legitimate attempts, it didn't happen because I was "brave" enough to attempt- it happened because we are deeply broken people who become desperate, determined, and usually- backed into some sort of corner be it physically, mentally, or some event happening in our lives. To be honest I've always seen myself as some sort of "weaker" species because I don't have the strength and bravery to take life head on like all the 'normal' population.

If any of you have seen the movie "Luck", it's been heavy on my mind recently. I believe I/we fit more into that category more often than not. Some people are just dealt a better hand than others, those of us on the raw end of the deal just learn to pivot and work with what we have (that is until some of us can no longer just work with what we are given and choose to ctb).

 

[LittleMagician]

As per title I've been thinking about this for 6 months and i can't ducking do it. Those people who have managed to succeed are incredibly brave

if you can't do it it's prob ur biological instinct to keep going and you shouldn't ignore that

 

[Raptorking18]

Honestly I'm hoping I can just have a restart on life and actually get to do things the right way. That's why I'm planning to CTB soon……

 

[Gustav Hartmann]

Bravery is admired, people who kill themselfes are in the best case pitied, often despised. I guess an action is considered brave if it has any benefit for the comunity. People who give their lives as a sacrifice for others are admired for their bravery.
Suicide means to give in to the greatest pressure, nobody forced you, you cold made a different decision. I personal don't belive in a free will and in this context there is no space for any bravery.

 

[leandra]

No need to romanticize suicide. Things are shitty as it and this post is doing more harm than good

 

[roommate]

Honestly I'm hoping I can just have a restart on life and actually get to do things the right way. That's why I'm planning to CTB soon……

Well I don't know your beliefs about the afterlife, but I wouldn't gamble it if this is your reason. What you have now is the only certainty.

 

[csdfghjjk_user]

I have mixed feelings on this and can only speak from my experience but am curious on your perspective. Let's say being in a limbo of not wanting to live but still kind of living but scared to attempt but also nothing is changing and feeling like nothing can improve is status quo, state zero. Deciding to ctb and going through with it speaks of incredible pain and is in no way the easy way. But I somehow do feel it's the easier way compared to trying your hardest every day to actively improve your living situation and apply all those therapy tipps and having your hope crushed every day bc you will fail. Often. I feel I can't apply those tipps, I say I try to, but I can't, for some reason. And I don't want to be in this limbo.

But if I am completely honest, reading about suicide methods is *easier than battling every negative thought with positivity and feeling the pain of failure at every single time I try something. Having to accept the downs and ungratefulness that feel like knifes stabbing you after having a little bit of hope. I can speak metaphorically. I felt I tried so hard to build a house my whole life, and then it started to slowly fall apart. But I always tried to patch it here. And patch it there. But the house was falling apart quicker than I could hold it and I felt more and more hopeless until I was left without a house.

And now, the art is to continuing to build the house. To water your garden even though everything seems to fall apart. Every time even a tiny flower seems to emerge, someone stomps on it. Or maybe you have a few flowers and then someone comes and rips them out. And you still choose, day by day, to cater your garden. Because it's worth seeing those few flowers bloom. And maybe with time and resources you can build a fence. And your flowers bloom for a little longer.

So, I was putting in effort in caring about myself, trying to like myself even though that I don't feel that there is a point and it's meaningless. Putting in the work in relationships, or a job where I might not be respected. Being in pain every day but choosing to still go on. I wish I could have seen this earlier, when my house was still half standing and not after collapsing. Now I don't have the energy to rebuild anything.

Going through with ctb, I cannot imagine how it must feel, how much despair there is and I would never say it's an easy option. It's harder than staying in the limbo state. Accepting that maybe I don't even deserve a house. Maybe I can just sleep outside, it's fine. Bc at least in the limbo state, you can't do anything wrong. You can't fail. Your house can't collapse again. And if yo freeze to death, then that's fine. It's over anyway, so why should I care. As much as I hate to admit that but this type of thinking fuels my suicidal thoughts. And I know this, on a technical level. Intellectually. There is research. And ofc I can't build a house if I am just going to sit around right? But laying the first brick down is a start. And maybe it won't be a house, but a little cabin that's a bit stronger. But there is this part of me, that takes control of my thinking, and I can't seem to fight it. It's always been a part of me but never this strong and made me give up. I am too tired to even try. It's too painful. And I can't stand being in this limbo.

So ultimately, I don't think I can be convinced that it's harder than choosing to rebuild and try and fail and get up again with more and more scars. Forcing yourself to take the walk outside. To help the neighbour. Otherwise why would you consider to ctb?

That's why I believe the limbo phase is the worst (but ultimately the easiest) bc somehow your brain is bullying you for not getting better/changing your life and at the same time, u hate the world and want to die every day but can't ctb.

 

[burneverybridge]

They are fckn brave. Not cowards like some people suggest. Stepping off a high rise… or in front of an oncoming train… kicking that chair away… that courage literally gives me chills

 

[Pale_Rider]

I have nothing great to add to this one, other then I like this post.

 

[burneverybridge]

No need to romanticize suicide. Things are shitty as it and this post is doing more harm than good

Errrr….do you know where you are?? That annoyed me greatly

 

[Alexandra_]

Well said. I admire people with an iron will! People who were brave in life and, more importantly, were not afraid to look death in the face. Overcame their fears, no matter how difficult it was, and crossed the line.
The living envy the dead.
I think that many of us can, at least for a few seconds, turn off the instinct for self-preservation, the main thing is to find the right way to ktb. I wish us all good luck in this, perhaps, the most difficult task.

Only after death will I find true peace

 

[Poiter1987]

Errrr….do you know where you are?? That annoyed me greatly

Hahahah thank you I felt the exact same way lol

 

[leandra]

Hahahah thank you I felt the exact same way lol

People who romanticize suicide or suicidal thoughts don't even commit, but it does lead others to. As i said, this is a harmful post in a community full of vulnerable individuals.
This type of content serves nothing but to farm likes and most fucked up it leads people to commit

 

[csdfghjjk_user]

They are fckn brave. Not cowards like some people suggest. Stepping off a high rise… or in front of an oncoming train… kicking that chair away… that courage literally gives me chills

No one is saying they are cowards. It's immense pain and suffering that grew too strong to handle. And I wish everyone their peace. But I agree that using brave is a v misleading word.

And I don't think you can argue that ctb is not the "lesser evil"? Like people jumping off a burning building. They are still scared to shit but they don't want to burn to death. So I understand where the thinking with bravery is coming from. But if existing feels like burning hell and u continue to face it every day trying to put out the fire. Even if it feels pointless. Against all odds. And u only have a tiny bucket. Everyone else seems to have big water hoses. Or firetrucks. And your bucket? It's leaking. But you continue trying to turn things around. Despite all the pain and effort. Despite hopelessness.

 

[Britney Spears]

We are the wisest souls. Trapped in bodies against our will and condemned, chained by ambitious and selfish humans who won't let us free ourselves. Body prison

 

[burneverybridge]

No one is saying they are cowards. It's immense pain and suffering that grew too strong to handle. And I wish everyone their peace. But I agree that using brave is a v misleading word.

And I don't think you can argue that ctb is not the "lesser evil"? Like people jumping off a burning building. They are still scared to shit but they don't want to burn to death. So I understand where the thinking with bravery is coming from. But if existing feels like burning hell and u continue to face it every day trying to put out the fire. Even if it feels pointless. Against all odds. And u only have a tiny bucket. Everyone else seems to have big water hoses. Or firetrucks. And your bucket? It's leaking. But you continue trying to turn things around. Despite all the pain and effort. Despite hopelessness

Yes people DO call ctb'sers cowards actually

U are on ignore

 

[Michelstaedter]

I don't know if they are brave, because those concepts tend to be ambiguous and for many people "normies" are cowards, losers, etc., but what I do know is that I envy them and even more those who 70 years ago could decide when to end their lives via barbiturates... I wish I had just one bottle with several, damn, damn, damnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!!!!!!!!