Patrick, the new eu supplier of n turns out to be a scam

[Nem]

That's a shitty thing to do to a suicidal person IMO

Agreed. I think punishment by crushing is only fair reprimand. Crush the whole family and incinerate as well
Peace

 

[ddutch]

If this is the guy who I think it is he goes to any lenghts (and with this I mean, he's able to convince you on literally all levels imaginable up to simulating his own death to perfection if needed - ever heard how frighteningly easy it is to ke to make you an addict and order more and this all under the pretext of an enormous empathy. It's so much more complex I'm afraid... but I lack hard proof and I've given up by now to get that. The other thread opened my eyes .. just one simple phrase was needed to let him rise from the ashes again.

Bizar dat het die Sanctionsuicide is he.
Zit het te lezen nu allemaal wat een schoft is dat zeg.
Hoop dat hij het aan zijn hartklep krijgt.

 

[Idorus]

Bizar dat het die Sanctionsuicide is he.
Zit het te lezen nu allemaal wat een schoft is dat zeg.
Hoop dat hij het aan zijn hartklep krijgt.

Aan z'n hartklep ja ;)

Apart from making Fenta a big hit, SS (let's assume he was my guy) was always busy finding new N suppliers and playing with new ideas and more than once it was time to work together with Philip Nitschke. I was surprised about the kind of suddenness and ease with wich he brought that up (he's such a gifted writer and shaking the most appropriate words out of his sleeve as if it's nothing - but left me so impressed, his big emphatic love included). As if he was so much further in the entire process of "collaboration" while to to me it was a bit like "Wow working together with Philip?". But I didn't ask him further about it. I didn't even want to know whether it was just a dream or having the potential to come true. I sometimes guessed he needed this kind of meaning in life to gain some self esteem or something. We had personal big plans as well, he would come to my country to finally live her and we were working on that. You know, I never doubted him except for once but I wiped it from my mind pretty quickly afterwards. For a brief moment I got the horrific sensation of dealing here with a scary criminal. He was clearly scanning my boundaries by asking (with a lot of nice words) if I could send Fenta from my place to people over the world. Ofcourse to gladden them in need for lethal drugs (that was no question with all the exhaled empathy in the course of time).

@how double it can still feel.... wew (it was the best time of my life; those sweet gentle unceasing moments in months of shared hope)

Does it smell suspicious?

 

[Chinaski]

Aan z'n hartklep ja ;)

Apart from making Fenta a big hit, SS (let's assume he was my guy) was always busy finding new N suppliers and playing with new ideas and more than once it was time to work together with Philip Nitschke. I was surprised about the kind of suddenness and ease with wich he brought that up (he's such a gifted writer and shaking the most appropriate words out of his sleeve as if it's nothing - but left me so impressed, his big emphatic love included). As if he was so much further in the entire process of "collaboration" while to to me it was a bit like "Wow working together with Philip?". But I didn't ask him further about it. I didn't even want to know whether it was just a dream or having the potential to come true. I sometimes guessed he needed this kind of meaning in life to gain some self esteem or something. We had personal big plans as well, he would come to my country to finally live her and we were working on that. You know, I never doubted him except for once but I wiped it from my mind pretty quickly afterwards. For a brief moment I got the horrific sensation of dealing here with a scary criminal. He was clearly scanning my boundaries by asking (with a lot of nice words) if I could send Fenta from my place to people over the world. Ofcourse to gladden them in need for lethal drugs (that was no question with all the exhaled empathy in the course of time).

@how double it can still feel.... wew (it was the best time of my life; those sweet gentle unceasing moments in months of shared hope)

Does it smell suspicious?

That person is still here, under several guises, and has been here before. A couple of them are 'big' accounts, I'm certain. There are patterns, tactics, which become clearer the closer l look. Perhaps they're not *always* working a scam but it's certainly a very manipulative, damaging and dangerous individual, and also very capable and convincing. Add to that the fact that we are, by definition, a relatively vulnerable and fragile community and it's a toxic mix.

I'm not sure what can be done about this particular individual, either. He'll just keep coming back.

 

[Bilbobaggins]

Agreed, he'll keep coming back. And that means any new genuine opportunities will likely be scuppered in the process.

 

[Chinaski]

Agreed, he'll keep coming back. And that means any new genuine opportunities will likely be scuppered in the process.

In fairness, new opportunities were always going to take a while getting through here as they'd go through Exit first rather than here; the chances of a Peruvian vet having a mid-life crisis and deciding to pitch up here to discuss anime with the depressed were always fairly slim.

 

[ddutch]

Aan z'n hartklep ja ;)

Apart from making Fenta a big hit, SS (let's assume he was my guy) was always busy finding new N suppliers and playing with new ideas and more than once it was time to work together with Philip Nitschke. I was surprised about the kind of suddenness and ease with wich he brought that up (he's such a gifted writer and shaking the most appropriate words out of his sleeve as if it's nothing - but left me so impressed, his big emphatic love included). As if he was so much further in the entire process of "collaboration" while to to me it was a bit like "Wow working together with Philip?". But I didn't ask him further about it. I didn't even want to know whether it was just a dream or having the potential to come true. I sometimes guessed he needed this kind of meaning in life to gain some self esteem or something. We had personal big plans as well, he would come to my country to finally live her and we were working on that. You know, I never doubted him except for once but I wiped it from my mind pretty quickly afterwards. For a brief moment I got the horrific sensation of dealing here with a scary criminal. He was clearly scanning my boundaries by asking (with a lot of nice words) if I could send Fenta from my place to people over the world. Ofcourse to gladden them in need for lethal drugs (that was no question with all the exhaled empathy in the course of time).

@how double it can still feel.... wew (it was the best time of my life; those sweet gentle unceasing moments in months of shared hope)

Does it smell suspicious?

In fairness, new opportunities were always going to take a while getting through here as they'd go through Exit first rather than here; the chances of a Peruvian vet having a mid-life crisis and deciding to pitch up here to discuss anime with the depressed were always fairly slim.

In fairness, new opportunities were always going to take a while getting through here as they'd go through Exit first rather than here; the chances of a Peruvian vet having a mid-life crisis and deciding to pitch up here to discuss anime with the depressed were always fairly slim.

Peruvian vet having a mid-life crisis LOL MY GOD HAHAHAHA

 

[Nem]

Tbh l think your time zone is significantly different to mine, but from what l recall his last log in was exactly one minute after his final 'live blog' post ("I'm fading now, l can hear angels, this N actually tastes like honey, please email T for further info" or some such), thus giving the appearance that he'd passed.

That guy was a complete scumbag. Even death by dismemberment would be too lenient
Peace!

 

[Bilbobaggins]

In fairness, new opportunities were always going to take a while getting through here as they'd go through Exit first rather than here; the chances of a Peruvian vet having a mid-life crisis and deciding to pitch up here to discuss anime with the depressed were always fairly slim.

Fair point.

 

[Goldie]

I am suspect of even more. Incredibly, the user Goldie really seems to have been bothered by your investigative work. Either they are a fool, or they are the scammer (ss, Patrick, LMK, T, etc.)

Correct me if I'm wrong.

Wow my name in lights!

My main issue is Chinaski's attitude, not with the investigation - he will probably swear at me for saying that. I also think that locking the thread was not the right choice.

I have said before I plan to buy from A and only A. When P was around i wrote a post stating that I would "wait for A to come back" as he was more trustworthy.

Now there is a spotlight on scammers it is going to become a much harder to place to operate so they may start to stop pursuing it.

 

[Chinaski]

Wow my name in lights!

My main issue is Chinaski's attitude, not with the investigation - he will probably swear at me for saying that. I also think that locking the thread was not the right choice.

I have said before I plan to buy from A and only A. When P was around i wrote a post stating that I would "wait for A to come back" as he was more trustworthy.

Now there is a spotlight on scammers it is going to become a much harder to place to operate so they may start to stop pursuing it.

So, you're happy with the spotlight on scammers, but just wish I'd done it more politely?

Mate, you were literally reporting my bringing this particular scam to attention to the mods whilst simultaneously defending the actual scammer. If you're embarrassed about that now it's understandable, but attacking my "attitude" is really not a good look.

And fwiw, l don't have the power to lock threads, nor did l ask for any to be locked.

 

[WayOut]

Basically, I am saying we should give the benefit of the doubt until we have verification from someone who purchased that they did not receive the N.

I strongly recommend the opposite of this.

Does it smell suspicious?

Yes. :)

Now there is a spotlight on scammers it is going to become a much harder to place to operate so they may start to stop pursuing it.

It remains fertile ground here. One scammer hasn't stopped, nor do I see any reason for him to.

That person is still here, under several guises, and has been here before. A couple of them are 'big' accounts, I'm certain. There are patterns, tactics, which become clearer the closer l look. Perhaps they're not *always* working a scam but it's certainly a very manipulative, damaging and dangerous individual, and also very capable and convincing. Add to that the fact that we are, by definition, a relatively vulnerable and fragile community and it's a toxic mix.

I'm not sure what can be done about this particular individual, either. He'll just keep coming back.

This.

 

[Jaded]

Aan z'n hartklep ja ;)

Apart from making Fenta a big hit, SS (let's assume he was my guy) was always busy finding new N suppliers and playing with new ideas and more than once it was time to work together with Philip Nitschke

Can I ask if they gave you the Fenta or you already had a supply? It blows my mind that this scammer managed to get an exit forum thread recommendation.

 

[Idorus]

Nope, it was just a 1-time question.

You know, he won, he won. He succeeded in making me believe he had passed - finally. And he moved mountains for it. But now it's my turn to make us even. It's just a matter of realizing how fucked up his personality is. I made a small nice 1-minute vid of myself which he praised but after which he disappeared forever. I was literally "too nice & strong" for him. He knew he would never get the chance to overpower me. How is that ever possible, I had 5 lifetimes in this body. Him only an academic brain. That only became obvious when I exposed myself. Exposing until then wasn't a point of attention. It felt good as it was, no need for visual interruption. I would have embraced Quasimodo with that love.

 

[WayOut]

It blows my mind that this scammer managed to get an exit forum thread recommendation.

Yes. But I can see how he managed this. He previously got a brief listing in the PPeH, which is simply astonishing. The entry was deleted in subsequent updates, but the screenshot of the page is still being used that shows "Domingo".

Are you on the Exit forum, if you don't mind me asking? I don't want to know who you are there, if you are, btw. I'm on that forum. Another person who posted here is on the forum as well, and made her identity clear in her post here.

 

[Mojo]

After months of time consuming hard work following the scammer though reddit and Usenet, which has left me feeling like I have crawled through the putrid ooze of a blocked sewer, I have found the real person. I know everything about him, including his name. He is highly intelligent, articulate, and knowledgeable about many things. However, he is also a disgusting disgrace, a cunning, evil fucker stealing from the most vulnerable, an apology for a human being.

The good news is that he will soon be removed from society, and will no longer be able to ply his pathetic trade. His crimes are proven, and serious. He won't be able to hide under some rock. I also know who his relatives are, and his real life contacts. All information is going to the feds and border security in his country. Well, two countries, as he has dual citizenship.

You're welcome. :)

 

[Made4TV]

I hope this is legit.

 

[Mojo]

Apart from making Fenta a big hit, SS (let's assume he was my guy) was always busy finding new N suppliers and playing with new ideas and more than once it was time to work together with Philip Nitschke. I was surprised about the kind of suddenness and ease with wich he brought that up (he's such a gifted writer and shaking the most appropriate words out of his sleeve as if it's nothing - but left me so impressed, his big emphatic love included). As if he was so much further in the entire process of "collaboration" while to to me it was a bit like "Wow working together with Philip?". But I didn't ask him further about it. I didn't even want to know whether it was just a dream or having the potential to come true. I sometimes guessed he needed this kind of meaning in life to gain some self esteem or something. We had personal big plans as well, he would come to my country to finally live her and we were working on that. You know, I never doubted him except for once but I wiped it from my mind pretty quickly afterwards. For a brief moment I got the horrific sensation of dealing here with a scary criminal. He was clearly scanning my boundaries by asking (with a lot of nice words) if I could send Fenta from my place to people over the world. Ofcourse to gladden them in need for lethal drugs (that was no question with all the exhaled empathy in the course of time).

He's openly gay, Idorus. Sorry. He really was sussing you out to scam you, as you finally began to suspect.

 

[Idorus]

He's openly gay, Idorus. Sorry. He really was sussing you out to scam you, as you finally began to suspect.

But Mojo.. Wayout & me came to the conclusion it is very likely not the same guy I was talking about. I wish it was! I'm afraid I will never get any closure with it. There has never been any direct sign of him wanting money from me. Even when I brought up I would pay part of his trip to my country his answer was a clear "No!" (I ain't rich). [if he had not a true/real-life connection with a specific address in NZ Wellington, then it's not the same guy for sure].

But it's funny about that gay thing. I spent many many hours talking about this guy with my very best old friend (he died from old age last week) and he was always saying "he is gay"! You know, I became sick of hearing it so often.. there was nothing to base that on! But then my old friend always told me about his gay brother and how "double he played - the unceasing duality!" and how this smelled so the same. And then I said: "Man, hetero can be double as well!" (ofcourse he couldn't deny that either).
"The guy" once told me he had the "hedgehog's dilemma" .. that could've made sense with him being gay but to me his revelation only meant having found words for what I have myself! (< this knowledge had nothing to do with the gay-conclusion of my old friend).

He is highly intelligent, articulate, and knowledgeable about many things

To repeat myself, the above sentence is him at full-length.

 

[Mojo]

I'm afraid I will never get any closure with it.

You won't. Unfortunately that's the way with people and life.

On the subject of that guy, one person can be many things. We're not black and white. The scammer, for instance. I like the way he has strong opinions on some issues, in the public side of his life. He's supportive of equal rights in terms of gender, ethnicity, sexual orientation etc. He is gifted linguistically, highly intelligent, can be funny, and is knowledgeable about basic law and medicine, thanks to his parents. All good things. Yet, for some reason he turned bad, and has chosen to deceive and scam. I suspect it's not so much about money. It's more that it's the easiest way for him to feel better than other people because he has very low self esteem, at the same time as displaying the characteristics of a classic narcissist. These things don't generally occur together in a person, but they do in him. The shame is he could have been anything, yet he chose this low, weak, grubby path in life. It's a waste, but there you go. Who ever knows how and why people become who they are?

 

[Idorus]

After months of time consuming hard work following the scammer though reddit and Usenet, which has left me feeling like I have crawled through the putrid ooze of a blocked sewer, I have found the real person. I know everything about him, including his name. He is highly intelligent, articulate, and knowledgeable about many things. However, he is also a disgusting disgrace, a cunning, evil fucker stealing from the most vulnerable, an apology for a human being.

The good news is that he will soon be removed from society, and will no longer be able to ply his pathetic trade. His crimes are proven, and serious. He won't be able to hide under some rock. I also know who his relatives are, and his real life contacts. All information is going to the feds and border security in his country. Well, two countries, as he has dual citizenship.

You're welcome. :)

It's like waiting for life or death. Seriously. I'm shaking with every new email popping up here. I just sent "his mom" an email. It was my turn in June last year after exchanging many mails with "her". But I felt appalled with the thought of this all being a "game" that I couldn't write anymore. The thought of it just being him I was exchanging words with, not his mom. Very fast replies I always got, within 2 hours long letters.

^ he didn't win anything with that (writing me under her name to prove his death). Mojo, do you think it might have been part of his double face: "innocently playing" with me like that? (as opposed to "unceasingly making money")

Do you think it's safe to say that if I get an email back from "his mom" that we aren't taking about the same person? (ofcourse then we arrive at the question whether he's still able to reply to his emails).

 

[Ch92921]

that's one reason I don't go by nembutal. I prefere this methode, but it is too risky to get this studf.

 

[Idorus]

I just got a reply from "his mom". The entire story she tells... a follow-up of where we were in her fight for justice last year, her fight against the mental health system that killed her son. The coroner's report. It all feels so genuine again. I might have had it all wrong. I might have been that 1 out of a million case in which his big heart to achieve substantially helping people ctb was true so true, despite the signs warning against it: bad fuk***g luck only which became a shame on me. I can't see what he would get from me now. Punish me! I deserve it. Talking about having the rug pulled out from underneath you « close to killing myself because of it.

.. it was intended to share the words I got from her here. But I now change to only in case of interest. so Lemme know or don't.

 

[Maxim]

"Patrick" said he was in a "Central European" country.

The pic that "sanctionedsuicide" posted in the original thread (as "proof" that the source was "legit") showed a bottle of N, with original label, and the label was written in Hungarian. The pic was only up temporary and then taken down. The bottle in the pic originated from Hungary.

Regards. It means that there are N available in Hungary despit that guy was a scummer ? Thank you.

 

[AutumnEmbers]

A isn't selling until November?!?!?!?!

Where are you reading that? Maybe my insomnia is messing with my brain, but I can't find it anywhere. People have posted about getting their N from A very recently, so I'm pretty sure he's selling at the moment: https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/megathread-getting-n-from-a.2544/page-123

 

[Weems]

Where are you reading that? Maybe my insomnia is messing with my brain, but I can't find it anywhere. People have posted about getting their N from A very recently, so I'm pretty sure he's selling at the moment: https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/megathread-getting-n-from-a.2544/page-123

I dumbposted. Didn't look at the date and replied to a post from last year. Deleted it.

 

[ddutch]

Where are you reading that? Maybe my insomnia is messing with my brain, but I can't find it anywhere. People have posted about getting their N from A very recently, so I'm pretty sure he's selling at the moment: https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/megathread-getting-n-from-a.2544/page-123

A is the only legit person who sales N.
Patrick was a scammer .

So just go with the book and the email in the book in the resource link

 

[AutumnEmbers]

Mistakenly deleted both my posts (got confused by something) so I'm posting them again lol:

I dumbposted. Didn't look at the date and replied to a post from last year. Deleted it.

No worries lol. I have major brain-fog so I do stuff like that all the time.

A is the only legit person who sales N.
Patrick was a scammer .

So just go with the book and the email in the book in the resource link

Thanks, I'm fully aware that Patrick was a scammer and that A is the only seller. I was replying to someone who (understandably) misread a post and thought that A wasn't selling at the moment.