Parents sacrifice their child

[Efilismislife]

This is just to add to the list that breeding especially irresponsible bad parenting is the most evil because everything starts from there(bad genetic, parenting environment)

And how they justified mindless breeding but punish painless exit


I was searching on the news and saw many cases, apparently at some countries there are parents who breed only to sell their child to get them money(some being a sex worker underage, some sell them to become slave, etc) and some even use them as a human sacrifice ritual to gain them power(especially in some countries where they still believe in superstitious, like taken their eyes out, buried them alive, etc)
some use them as a free slave
and some use their sick child to advertise for money
some even torture their child to be sick to gain money from charity, fame, etc

which is also what happens to gypsy rose(real life story which inspired the horror movie Run) just to name a few


The reason i search for it is because it reminds me of the gossip i heard when i was 11 at that time people around gossiping i was being a sacrifice for money back then i was confused and thought its a crazy gossip but eventually when its to late i just realize i can relate to that eventhough its not literally the same case

to be taken by evil parents/evil family that keep abusing you is truly a curse of a lifetime that destroy you and you cant get away from

Because theres no human being/a child that can successfully grow/mature properly without proper care/being raised properly by their caregiver

 

[jodes2]

Part of me wishes I'd been sacrificed as a child. Would have saved a lot of suffering. But yeah totally agree with your points

 

[Efilismislife]

Part of me wishes I'd been sacrificed as a child. Would have saved a lot of suffering. But yeah totally agree with your points

They dont just die right away but suffer a lifetime tho

Anyway
1 person said that to me similar thing when i almost died when i was a child from being tortured and she said maybe i couldnt have to suffer a lifetime

But still it hurts a lot especially dying better not to be taken away just to be tortured

No one wants to suffer just for other persons entertainment

 

[Barteljaap]

Yeah, I've heard about this before. But remember that poorer countries are heavily exploited by richer countries, and some people there are very desperate. The parents do deserve some of the blame, but most of the blame should be on the system that gives them no good economic options.

 

[Efilismislife]

Yeah, I've heard about this before. But remember that poorer countries are heavily exploited by richer countries, and some people there are very desperate. The parents do deserve some of the blame, but most of the blame should be on the system that gives them no good economic options.

Yeah poorer place pose more threat on child abuse and child neglect

But if they cant even take care of their own needs why they have to take another human being just to become a sacrifice? Thats still their decision knowing they sacrifice a new human being for thems sake

no wonder this world is a sick show if it starts from there

 

[Barteljaap]

Yeah poorer place pose more threat on child abuse and child neglect

But if they cant even take care of their own needs why they have to take another human being just to become a sacrifice? Thats still their decision knowing they sacrifice a new human being for thems sake

no wonder this world is a sick show if it starts from there

I don't think we have the right to judge the people who are living in these destitute countries. Practically no one in a European or North American country would consider selling their child. Does that mean we are morally superior? Or are we simply not forced to make the kinds of choices that these people do?

 

[Someone123]

I saw a news show where a girl maybe age 10 or 11 was sold basically into a sex slavery marriage to a guy over age sixty for $200- it may have been in India. They were worried they would starve to death without it. It would be better to starve to death than to do this- go down fightnig for the right thing, never do this to your child. Let your whole family starve to death rather than to do this- at least you die with honor.

 

[Efilismislife]

I don't think we have the right to judge the people who are living in these destitute countries.

Practically no one in a European or North American country would consider selling their child

You sure not even one?

i dont know what you mean by judge. because thats not it.

More like it doesnt seem right to justify people who torture children? or taking their sides instead of the victim?

Does that mean we are morally superior? Or are we simply not forced to make the kinds of choices that these people do?

Thats the point. Does the abusive parent is superior to the children thus its okay to sacrifice a human life for their entertainment?
Also no one forced them to take a human sacrifice and justified the abuse

 

[Pluto]

I don't know much about your situation but Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy (Factitious Disorder Imposed by Another) is a rare but serious form of child abuse that can happen in the developed world. It involves a caregiver feigning or causing illness in a child in their care because they crave being the centre of attention. Reportedly, up to 10% of cases result in the death of the child.

I remember an episode of Law & Order when I was a kid in the '90s; they were often based on a true stories. A mother had her baby die tragically. Then it happened a second or possibly even a third time. Authorities became suspicious and found it was an extreme case of Munchausen by Proxy; she was craving the outpouring of sympathy and condolences by the community so kept killing her babies then claiming it was an accident.

 

[Someone123]

I don't know much about your situation but Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy (Factitious Disorder Imposed by Another) is a rare but serious form of child abuse that can happen in the developed world. It involves a caregiver feigning or causing illness in a child in their care because they crave being the centre of attention. Reportedly, up to 10% of cases result in the death of the child.

I remember an episode of Law & Order when I was a kid in the '90s; they were often based on a true stories. A mother had her baby die tragically. Then it happened a second or possibly even a third time. Authorities became suspicious and found it was an extreme case of Munchausen by Proxy; she was craving the outpouring of sympathy and condolences by the community so kept killing her babies then claiming it was an accident.

That is actually one of the worst forms of child abuse, the mental and emotional torture for these children is so extreme, plus there are physical tortures as well.

 

[Barteljaap]

More like it doesnt seem right to justify people who torture children? or taking their sides instead of the victim?


Thats the point. Does the abusive parent is superior to the children thus its okay to sacrifice a human life for their entertainment?
Also no one forced them to take a human sacrifice and justified the abuse

I'm not taking the side of those who torture of traffick children. I'm only thinking of cases where the parents have a child, they have neither the means to feed themselves nor the child, so they decide to sell it to someone. I imagine most parents in that situation would try to convince themselves that the child would not be treated that badly or that he/she would find a way to escape when they were older.

If the parents themselves are abusing the child, that's a different story and it's inexcusable.

 

[Someone123]

I'm not taking the side of those who torture of traffick children. I'm only thinking of cases where the parents have a child, they have neither the means to feed themselves nor the child, so they decide to sell it to someone. I imagine most parents in that situation would try to convince themselves that the child would not be treated that badly or that he/she would find a way to escape when they were older.

If the parents themselves are abusing the child, that's a different story and it's inexcusable.

But they know this is not the case- they will be raped from the day they are given away by an old man- some lines should never be crossed. Beg for food, steal food, work however you can for food, but starve to death before seling your child into sex slavery.

 

[makethepainstop]

This is just to add to the list that breeding especially irresponsible bad parenting is the most evil because everything starts from there(bad genetic, parenting environment)

And how they justified mindless breeding but punish painless exit


I was searching on the news and saw many cases, apparently at some countries there are parents who breed only to sell their child to get them money(some being a sex worker underage, some sell them to become slave, etc) and some even use them as a human sacrifice ritual to gain them power(especially in some countries where they still believe in superstitious, like taken their eyes out, buried them alive, etc)
some use them as a free slave
and some use their sick child to advertise for money
some even torture their child to be sick to gain money from charity

which is also what happens to gypsy rose(real life story which inspired the horror movie Run) just to name a few


The reason i search for it is because it reminds me of the gossip i heard when i was 11 at that time people around gossiping i was being a sacrifice for money back then i was confused and thought its a crazy gossip but eventually when its to late i just realize i can relate to that eventhough its not literally the same case

to be taken by evil parents/evil family that keep abusing you is truly a curse of a lifetime that destroy you and you cant get away from

Because theres no human being/a child that can successfully grow/mature properly without proper care/being raised properly by their caregiver

No child should ever be subjected to such abuse. The only thing that makes me be able to sleep is knowing that in their next life those people who did all of those horrific things to kids, will they themselves be subjected to the same treatment.

 

[Barteljaap]

I saw a news show where a girl maybe age 10 or 11 was sold basically into a sex slavery marriage to a guy over age sixty for $200- it may have been in India. They were worried they would starve to death without it. It would be better to starve to death than to do this- go down fightnig for the right thing, never do this to your child. Let your whole family starve to death rather than to do this- at least you die with honor.

Your reaction is borne out of being raised in modern, western culture. In the middle ages, marriages at that age did happen. Look at the TV show House of the Dragon, I think in the 2nd or 3rd episode the king was being pushed to marry a girl around that age (though he decided against it). That show is based on medieval culture, it's not just something they made up. And not to be controversial, but the prophet of the Islamic faith had a wife that age. I'm sure there are parts of the world where it's still semi-acceptable.

Hunger is not a quick death. The child will wither away slowly before the parents eyes. I'm sure some parents do the choose honor and let their child die that way, for others it may be too difficult. The way you are reporting these incidents sounds horrible, but you never know what kind of assurances or promises the "buyer" may have given to the parents about the way the child would be treated (even though those assurances may have been lies). No one makes a decision like that lightly.

I don't think you have a right to judge from the place of privilege that you have as a westerner. Instead of bashing the parents, how about looking into the way that your country contributes to the exploitation of the 3rd world? It's very popular in politics to talk about the economic disparities within a country, but people don't like to talk about the economic differences between countries. Those differences are much scarier problem.

 

[Pluto]

In Africa, there has been growing concern for human rights violations involving children accused of witchcraft by corrupt Christian leaders. Parents are sometimes driven to bankruptcy to fund costly and torturous 'exorcisms', or will abandon, attack or kill their children in fear.

Nigerian human rights advocate Leo Igwe says, "[Children] are taken to churches where they are subjected to inhumane and degrading torture in the name of 'exorcism'. They are chained, starved, hacked with machetes, lynched or murdered in cold blood."

This is a tragedy on an immense scale, yet nobody who has not been through that level of miseducation, religious brainwashing and trauma is in a position to judge. It is up to the global community to fight against the religious 'leaders' perpetrating this brutality.

Sadly, in some cases, it is extreme Christians from places like the US who actively promote anti-gay and other violence in Africa. Let's not forget that Christianity is not native to Africa in the first place, but is a 'gift' from the West.

 

[jandek]

Sadly, in some cases, it is extreme Christians from places like the US who actively promote anti-gay and other violence in Africa. Let's not forget that Christianity is not native to Africa in the first place, but is a 'gift' from the West.

Well, Protestantism is a relatively recent and noxious import, but African Christianity is some of the oldest in the world, such as the Coptic and Ethiopian Orthodox churches.

 

[Efilismislife]

I'm not taking the side of those who torture of traffick children. I'm only thinking of cases where the parents have a child, they have neither the means to feed themselves nor the child, so they decide to sell it to someone. I imagine most parents in that situation would try to convince themselves that the child would not be treated that badly or that he/she would find a way to escape when they were older.

If the parents themselves are abusing the child, that's a different story and it's inexcusable.

Im talking about parents who consciously neglect or abuse children but even when they make excuse such as they have to do it

Thats still like how rapist using love as an excuse and say they love them too much thus they cant help doing that to them

In Africa, there has been growing concern for human rights violations involving children accused of witchcraft by corrupt Christian leaders. Parents are sometimes driven to bankruptcy to fund costly and torturous 'exorcisms', or will abandon, attack or kill their children in fear.

Nigerian human rights advocate Leo Igwe says, "[Children] are taken to churches where they are subjected to inhumane and degrading torture in the name of 'exorcism'. They are chained, starved, hacked with machetes, lynched or murdered in cold blood."

This is a tragedy on an immense scale, yet nobody who has not been through that level of miseducation, religious brainwashing and trauma is in a position to judge. It is up to the global community to fight against the religious 'leaders' perpetrating this brutality.

Sadly, in some cases, it is extreme Christians from places like the US who actively promote anti-gay and other violence in Africa. Let's not forget that Christianity is not native to Africa in the first place, but is a 'gift' from the West.

Yes it happens in many cases in other countries

I don't know much about your situation but Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy (Factitious Disorder Imposed by Another) is a rare but serious form of child abuse that can happen in the developed world. It involves a caregiver feigning or causing illness in a child in their care because they crave being the centre of attention. Reportedly, up to 10% of cases result in the death of the child.

I remember an episode of Law & Order when I was a kid in the '90s; they were often based on a true stories. A mother had her baby die tragically. Then it happened a second or possibly even a third time. Authorities became suspicious and found it was an extreme case of Munchausen by Proxy; she was craving the outpouring of sympathy and condolences by the community so kept killing her babies then claiming it was an accident.

Yup theres even a horror movie based on that. It happens in some cases.

its somewhat similar to mine too but still different

in a way of how narcissistic parents used the children to gain sympathy and public image


And nowadays charity, social media popularity, etc

 

[eldiablo666]

Every parent is basically selling out their child for their own well being though.

If you look at it real genuinely and objectively.
That's the core truth.

But society is brainwashed to believe having a child is ok. That it's normal. This is because society needs to stay alive.

If everybody woke up , we would realise parents are the most evil you can become.

 

[Efilismislife]

Every parent is basically selling out their child for their own well being though.

If you look at it real genuinely and objectively.
That's the core truth.

But society is brainwashed to believe having a child is ok. That it's normal. This is because society needs to stay alive.

If everybody woke up , we would realise parents are the most evil you can become.

Same as ctb, People are too afraid to accept&speak the truth

the most closest neighbor to ctb/death is breeding