Options

[sallyfisher]

Hi everyone, I'm just trying to figure out what options I have which would immediately work and not leave me incapacitated. So I'm looking for some advice or more ideas. I am sort of limited with my options considering the fact I live with my family and relatives.

I've thought of a couple ways to go but for me the most ideal would be suffocation of some kind. Just is it possible to do so without a noose? I mean, I've made functional nooses in the past the only issue is my family found the last one I made and hid, and got rid of it. I'm also worried I may not have any good places to hang a noose even if I did happen to hide one from them. I've looked around and can't really find any good places to put one, and it would raise too much suspicion of my family if I were to just go off somewhere random in the woods (unless I left my phone at home or something, but even then, they'd likely be able to figure out where my car is..) at least then I'd be traumatizing some random passerby and it likely wouldn't be my own family. But the house doesn't really have any good places to tie up one. My main solution would be to just wait until they leave and then do it, regardless..

My second idea was to just use a knife and cut across my throat or stab it enough directly where the main veins are, to where I'd just eventually give out. I'm just unsure how effective it would be, and I know I'd likely have a higher chance of surviving that especially if I don't do it properly. And it likely would be more difficult. And with this option if I did survive, I'd likely have permanent damage to my brain or voice box, etc. I'm not sure which way to do it in which it would be effective enough either.

I'm also curious if you all know of anyone who was able to successfully do such a thing without the use of typical items. I've thought about a shotgun as well, but my family locks them away and would immediately be able to tell if one was missing because they have a camera in the safe.

So those are the two main ideas I've been considering and I'd like to hear some of your guys' thoughts and suggestions if you got any. I'm genuinely just tired of being here and really want to find something that will work for me, even if it's something miserable. I'm sure many of you know how it is when it feels like you're just being forced to live.. lol. I'm thinking I might just have to wait until I don't live with my relatives anymore, but that would take 4+ years I've estimated with all of the other things I've been up to, and I really don't want to wait that long.

 

[FuneralCry]

I hope you find peace from suffering, I really understand feeling so tired of it all, all I personally hope for is to never suffer ever again.

 

[Romanticize]

you cannot suffocate without a noose, the other method is "poisition suffocation" where you end up in such position your lungs cant expand [i.e after car accident, or if you split into some narror area in mountains]. So basically im,possible.
Stabbing yourself? Too unreliable, dangerous [can be survived] and awfuly painful. Your SI will kick in before you even do a proper 1 deep cut.

Top methods are:
inert gas - it's suffocation, but quick and completely painless. However, it needs a canister of inert gas like nitrogen, helium or argon. You need a reductor, some connectors and exit mask [a bag you put over your head]. You put the bag on, set the gas to 1 - 1,5atm and in 15sec you are unsconscious with ZERO pain, because those gases displace oxygen from your system and while unconscious, 5min later, death occurs.

second method would be opioid&benzdiazepine overdose - its needs to be a huge OD, and you need access to those medication (its not easy to get them)

Third method is the omnipresent and glorified SN - i don't think its painless at all. You have 30min of some physical and metntal uneasiness (or maybe even terror). We want methods to be quick lights out, not dozens of minues of thinking "what have I done" while looking at your blue fingers and lips from ya

To OP: DO NOT TRY to invent your own method, it will 99,99% be unreliable and very bad.

 

[JonCody]

SSo

you cannot suffocate without a noose, the other method is "poisition suffocation" where you end up in such position your lungs cant expand [i.e after car accident, or if you split into some narror area in mountains]. So basically im,possible.
Stabbing yourself? Too unreliable, dangerous [can be survived] and awfuly painful. Your SI will kick in before you even do a proper 1 deep cut.

Top methods are:
inert gas - it's suffocation, but quick and completely painless. However, it needs a canister of inert gas like nitrogen, helium or argon. You need a reductor, some connectors and exit mask [a bag you put over your head]. You put the bag on, set the gas to 1 - 1,5atm and in 15sec you are unsconscious with ZERO pain, because those gases displace oxygen from your system and while unconscious, 5min later, death occurs.

second method would be opioid&benzdiazepine overdose - its needs to be a huge OD, and you need access to those medication (its not easy to get them)

Third method is the omnipresent and glorified SN - i don't think its painless at all. You have 30min of some physical and metntal uneasiness (or maybe even terror). We want methods to be quick lights out, not dozens of minues of thinking "what have I done" while looking at your blue fingers and lips from ya

To OP: DO NOT TRY to invent your own method, it will 99,99% be unreliable and very bad.

Can you please define huge od? Particularly interested in hydrocodone or similar narcotic.

 

[Romanticize]

SSo

Can you please define huge od? Particularly interested in hydrocodone or similar narcotic.

Huge OD is a dose 30-40x or more the normal recreational dose. For hydrocone, that OD which would be very likely to result in death is I would say 1000mg (1g) oral, or 600mg IV (intravenous) - as a bare minimum. On top of that, you should also add some other synergistic CNS depressant, like a benzodiazepine.

 

[JonCody]

Huge OD is a dose 30-40x or more the normal recreational dose. For hydrocone, that OD which would be very likely to result in death is I would say 1000mg (1g) oral, or 600mg IV (intravenous) - as a bare minimum. On top of that, you should also add some other synergistic CNS depressant, like a benzodiazepine.

Had no idea that high. So that's 3.33 bottles of 30 tablets @10mg each! Yet another example of medical profession's lying to us. They act like giving us a few tablets is like giving children a live ied. Thx for insight.

 

[Romanticize]

Had no idea that high. So that's 3.33 bottles of 30 tablets @10mg each! Yet another example of medical profession's lying to us. They act like giving us a few tablets is like giving children a live ied. Thx for insight.

well, these are strong pills after all. As little as 50-100mg [5-10 tablets] can kill a kid or opioid naive person.
There are huge differences from person to person. Also CAN kill doesn't mean it must kill.
You asked for a dose which MUST kill [or at least should kill in 99,9% cases]. It is 1000mg - for opoid naive person it's always fatal.

Like with SN, people have died from 2g, but protocols advise 20-30g. To overcome any obstacles and differences.

Also this is why people fail with OD and OD has such a bad reputation. They do it on WRONG substances, and THEY HAVE NO IDEA how much they must take. OD is a great suicide method IF YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING. If not, better choose a rope.

 

[Ambien addict]

well, these are strong pills after all. As little as 50-100mg [5-10 tablets] can kill a kid or opioid naive person.
There are huge differences from person to person. Also CAN kill doesn't mean it must kill.
You asked for a dose which MUST kill [or at least should kill in 99,9% cases]. It is 1000mg - for opoid naive person it's always fatal.

Like with SN, people have died from 2g, but protocols advise 20-30g. To overcome any obstacles and differences.

Also this is why people fail with OD and OD has such a bad reputation. They do it on WRONG substances, and THEY HAVE NO IDEA how much they must take. OD is a great suicide method IF YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING. If not, better choose a rope.

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