Discussion Opioids are a much better method than SN

[kambroov]

1. You don't have to worry about the whole vomiting thing. No anti emetics needed, since you inject the opioids, so it doesn't matter if you vomit.

2. Instant unconsciousness. SN takes up to 30 minutes to die. I can imagine that wouldn't be very pleasant. The reason it takes so long is because it's ingested orally. With opioids, you can inject it, and that has an almost immediate effect. If you inject a lethal dose of opioids, you will pass out immediately.

3. In many cases, it's easier to obtain than SN. There's a thread on this forum about how to access the dark web, where you can buy opioids. I've done it myself and it's easy. Injecting is also easy, you just need a syringe+needle, which is legal, and you just stick it in a vein. Nothing to it.

 

[deathslament]

I don't have opioids.

 

[kambroov]

I don't have opioids.

Here you go: https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...k-net-markets-for-ctb-resources.106130/unread

 

[deathslament]

Here you go: https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...k-net-markets-for-ctb-resources.106130/unread

I do access the dark web (that's how i came across that morbid video) but i wouldn't trust buying anything on there. too risky.

 

[walkingdead2023]

I do access the dark web (that's how i came across that morbid video) but i wouldn't trust buying anything on there. too risky.

Buying SN is risky too just FYI

 

[deathslament]

Buying SN is risky too just FYI

Nowhere near as risky as the dark net for fuck ass sake.

 

[walkingdead2023]

1. You don't have to worry about the whole vomiting thing. No anti emetics needed, since you inject the opioids, so it doesn't matter if you vomit.

2. Instant unconsciousness. SN takes up to 30 minutes to die. I can imagine that wouldn't be very pleasant. The reason it takes so long is because it's ingested orally. With opioids, you can inject it, and that has an almost immediate effect. If you inject a lethal dose of opioids, you will pass out immediately.

3. In many cases, it's easier to obtain than SN. There's a thread on this forum about how to access the dark web, where you can buy opioids. I've done it myself and it's easy. Injecting is also easy, you just need a syringe+needle, which is legal, and you just stick it in a vein. Nothing to it.

I agree with you. People here are possessed with SN it's really not peaceful as they claim. I think if someone wants to really die, they will find away like jumping in the river or high buildings.. I wish I can just disappear

 

[owlbites]

idk to me, having 30 minutes to say goodbye to the world is ideal. i can put on my favorite song, or my favorite movie, and fall asleep with it in the background like im a kid again. i feel like if my last memory was sticking a syringe in my arm, my afterlife wont be pleasant

 

[penguinl0v3s]

I agree, this is the best method. The only problem is obtainability and cost.

 

[kambroov]

Nowhere near as risky as the dark net for fuck ass sake.

The dark net isn't risky, apart from the risk of losing some money (being scammed). If it's being shipped domestically, it's not going to get caught by customs.

 

[escape_from_hell]

Have you used hard opioids? I've only tried soft stuff like Kratom.
Asking because I am thinking of combining opioids with jumping as a backup, curious how much pain they can block out. Assuming total unconsciousness/death before I hit the ground is peaches. Can you get numbed up to the point the pain of your smashed legs and guts won't bother you while you bleed out? Been high enough on dissos that might work too you are numbed makes sense as they are anesthetics like ketamine.
Plan would be like sitting on a ledge in a massive canyon to where I'd fall automatically once passing out type of thing.

 

[walkingdead2023]

idk to me, having 30 minutes to say goodbye to the world is ideal. i can put on my favorite song, or my favorite movie, and fall asleep with it in the background like im a kid again. i feel like if my last memory was sticking a syringe in my arm, my afterlife wont be pleasant

Do you fall asleep with SN? I never heard of that.. people here who failed this method said you will be vomiting and other unpleasant symptoms

 

[owlbites]

Do you fall asleep with SN? I never heard of that.. people here who failed this method said you will be vomiting and other unpleasant symptoms

An SS user named Vizzy did the math:

Nausea is common due to the taste of SN/anxiety/the copious amounts of SN being drank + the body's reaction to poison.
I'm a recovered bulimic so I guess I don't mind

 

[walkingdead2023]

An SS user named Vizzy did the math:
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Nausea is common due to the taste of SN/anxiety/the copious amounts of SN being drank + the body's reaction to poison.
I'm a recovered bulimic so I guess I don't mind

Thank you so much for the details! Now I get why sn is most used here.. I don't mind using it in this case.. it's hard to get it in the US I wish we have resources here

 

[sadman710]

I honestly think opiates + benzos + alcohol is the ideal if youre going to do that. The second place is probably firearms or jumping from a high building. Hanging is easily accessible, but unpleasant and disturbing. The biggest problem with that partial method is you might feel like leaving the planet going into it, but as soon as you start feeling like you're going to pass out mostly everyone is going to get startled and get SI and try to snap themselves away from passing out when they're getting there. The full method is similar in a way where people have a hard time bringing themselves there, worry about something going wrong and end up with brain / throat damage. The same thing applies to things like SN too. It's a chemical poisoning not an ecstasy feeling, and has the chance of failure and bodily damage. Firearms are a largely safe bet but you risk just mutilating your face and brain and surviving that, along with major legal reprecussions. The drug method it's addictive, so once you start even slow you won't give a shit about anything cause you'll be feeling good and will be tempted to take more if anything. Jumping is an almost absolute guarantee. But the question remains if people could bring themselves to lose their fear of heights and getting splattered with extreme SI, and the potential lack of privacy and others seeing them jump. Opiates and benzos and some booze would be a no Brainer if a large enough calculated dose if your intention was ctb. The issue is purity and availability really. You have to know some real druggie. Kratom is enjoyable but does not provide the respitory depression like normal opiates do, even combined with alcohol. Things like CO and other gases are scary too. They could just let you fade out, but there's also a chance when you didn't have enough that you wind up a chemically fucked up permanently screwed up semi or full vegetable or just badly brain / body damage. The night night method idea sounds cozy because you're lying down, but if you move your neck or the padding slips it can change the whole equation. I think that one would logically make more sense when applied with hanging to reduce discomfort and target the area you're wanting to target, but then you have the discomfort of not laying down in bed.

 

[stermc]

Of course opioids is almost everyone's first choice, but even on the dark web it is not that easy to get them.. "you can lose some money".. man, where are you from? Because if I lose that amount of money being scammed, I have no money to even buy a rope. It's not that "easy" for everyone. SN, on the other hand, is easier to get on countries as mine, for example, where the government is not smart enough or simply doesn't care about the suicides using this product.
But holy crap how I wish I could get those opioids

 

[sadman710]

Of course opioids is almost everyone's first choice, but even on the dark web it is not that easy to get them.. "you can lose some money".. man, where are you from? Because if I lose that amount of money being scammed, I have no money to even buy a rope. It's not that "easy" for everyone. SN, on the other hand, is easier to get on countries as mine, for example, where the government is not smart enough or simply doesn't care about the suicides using this product.
But holy crap how I wish I could get those opioids

I'm honestly thinking about talking to some ex friends because one of my old buddies I know is addicted to fentanyl, but I have a feeling he'd think I was a narc and wouldn't want to get me into it. I would only consider it if he could sell me real bars too. The only issue I have us where I live if you overdose on fentanyl the cops charge the distributor with murder or controlled substance homicide and I wouldn't want someone I know going to prison for murder.
Coke is everywhere here too. You could combine coke with booze and have a crazy night and slowly OD until you take a fat shot or line and your heart gives out or you seize but it's not a pleasant exit.

 

[Forever Sleep]

Sure, I think many of us would love to go out this way. But, if you're not experienced with drugs, how do you know you have strong enough purity? Will a dealer just sell you enough to kill yourself? Doesn't seem beneficial for them. They lose a potential customer and police will be all over where the drugs came from. Some of us would be squemish about injections and getting the whole process right.

More than anything though- it's illegal. You may well get a welfare check with SN but you could land yourself a criminal record with class A drugs. I don't know if that quantity would be classed as intent to supply too.

Depends how brave you are to take additional risks really with prohibited substances.

 

[strangelife]

I would also like this method, but I am worried about the purity of the product and how to calculate the dose without knowing the purity, how to check it, which is better to use from opioids?

 

[UKscotty]

It would be interesting to see what methods people actually use in the end vs prep.

For me, preparing is great but I think deep down I know I will go with suspension hanging.

Theoretically things like fentanyl sound like the holy grail of methods, but when that SI is gone, usually for a few minutes, need to be gone quick before it comes back.

We have so many peaceful methods but I think for me in the end quick will win out over peaceful. The SI can come back literally in seconds so waiting for SN, pentobarbital, CO, inert gasses etc sound great in theory but I think I'd panic again and stop.

 

[willitpass]

If I could reliably and safely obtain a lethal amount of fentanyl and know for certain I wouldn't have the police come knocking on my door I would have done it years ago. But as everyone has said, it's illegal. I've been thrown in a psych ward too many times to count, I don't want to go to real jail for trying to off myself next.

 

[TheGoodGuy]

I agree I never liked SN I think opiate OD is far superior if injected

I agree, this is the best method. The only problem is obtainability and cost.

Obtainability I agree on but cost? In one of the threads about opiate suicide it says 0.5g/500mg to ctb and last I saw the prices it was like 50 dollars for half a gram I don´t think that is very expensive to ctb.

 

[penguinl0v3s]

I agree I never liked SN I think opiate OD is far superior if injected

Obtainability I agree on but cost? In one of the threads about opiate suicide it says 0.5g/500mg to ctb and last I saw the prices it was like 50 dollars for half a gram I don´t think that is very expensive to ctb.

If you buy from the dark net it is very expensive.

 

[TheGoodGuy]

If you buy from the dark net it is very expensive.

I don´t know how it looks nowadays but a few years ago you could get half a gram for 50 bucks and I doubt it has changed

 

[Praestat_Mori]

I don´t know how it looks nowadays but a few years ago you could get half a gram for 50 bucks and I doubt it has changed

I'd be worried about the purity for an OD attempt. Do you talk about 1/2g pure stuff?

 

[TheGoodGuy]

I'd be worried about the purity for an OD attempt. Do you talk about 1/2g pure stuff?

Nope but it using 500mg you wouldn´t even need pure stuff at least not according to this thread below

Opioid Megathread & Overview

Preamble I wanted to write something similar to Stan's guide to SN but I hesitate to call this a guide because I can't in good conscience make a guide for something so unreliable in terms of access, lethality, and risk of permanent injury. I.e., traumatic brain injury from hypoxia. SN is a far...

sanctioned-suicide.net

 

[notherenotnow]

Sn is far easier to get though, since its not illegal in most countries or anything. And 100grams of it shouldnt cost more than 5 euro so its also far cheaper

 

[Justnotme]

I do not know how things are going in your country, but in our country drugs are diluted with soda, salt, detergent, glucose, even concrete!! And all this in order to save money!

Therefore, buying a drug is just an attempt to try your luck.
You'll never know what exactly was put in that drug you bought.

I'm completely desperate.
I would like to buy methadone and inject 1 gram intramuscularly. But along with him, I don't want to inject myself with some kind of washing powder or concrete to die in agony.

 

[Groot]

1. You don't have to worry about the whole vomiting thing. No anti emetics needed, since you inject the opioids, so it doesn't matter if you vomit.

2. Instant unconsciousness. SN takes up to 30 minutes to die. I can imagine that wouldn't be very pleasant. The reason it takes so long is because it's ingested orally. With opioids, you can inject it, and that has an almost immediate effect. If you inject a lethal dose of opioids, you will pass out immediately.

3. In many cases, it's easier to obtain than SN. There's a thread on this forum about how to access the dark web, where you can buy opioids. I've done it myself and it's easy. Injecting is also easy, you just need a syringe+needle, which is legal, and you just stick it in a vein. Nothing to it.

I've always thought heroin would be the best way method but I read recently that's it's actually quite difficult to do it cos u will likely pass out before fully injecting the dose, idk tho it's just what I read I wish this shit wasn't so confusing

 

[Ernest1964]

I agree, this is the best method. The only problem is obtainability and cost.

One problem that you seem to not have considered is reliability. When you buy an opioid, you have no way of knowing how much you will be getting at one time. Say you buy a bit of cocaine and it's laced with an opioid, how are you going to be sure it has enough in it to CTB? What if there is just enough to get you addicted and not enough for you to CTB? Then you're addicted and NEEDING even more and more each day just to feel "normal"... sounds like a bigger problem than what you had that may have caused you to want to CTB in the first place, now you've got your original problem PLUS you're addicted to an opioid!!!