Help Opinions on SN

[AnonymousL]

Opinions? Is it a good method with AE?

 

[hikikomorizombie]

personally i think it sounds v complicated & unappealing. 2 users on here attempted w it & were unable to go through w it due to diff reasons caused by this method. however, if i had everything needed to do it as an alternative to my own unappealing method, i'd prob try it.

 

[BorderlineChellery]

It's something I'm considering, but I've been seeing that it's hard to get in the UK

 

[readytogo44]

It sounds like a good method from what I have been reading but having difficulty finding in the US after months of research unfortunately

 

[cold_severance]

its good on cost, ease of use and comfort. availability sucks for some regions, but where you can get it its probably the best choice all things considered.

 

[dinosavr]

It's the method I chose. It seems to be the most reliable one that is available for me.

 

[throneofdispair03]

it's fairly popular, but many had to suffer to die with it. People update their posts with how much they throw up and stuff

 

[Argo]

It has a lot of pro's and few cons. So it's a very popular method for that reason. No darknet needed. Low effort to acquire materials. Legal. Fairly high on the peacefulness scale. Affordable. Can be transported discreetly and done anywhere private(unlike something like lugging around a nitrogen tank or charcoal/CO, which needs quite a ... spectacle/performance to get done). Not messy like a shotgun. I'm sure there are more.

The flaws with this method are 1) getting found, 2) vomiting 3) purity of product(It can degrade). One may also have personal quirks like maybe drinking something really salty would be particularly disturbing. One may be a deeply neurotic person so maybe waiting 15 minutes to die would also be terrible for them (Nembutal even, the premium method, would have this to some degree, so there's really no "method-solution" to such a problem-- the better solution is to work on working towards a calmer mind)

Fun fact: Exit International has not seen a single failed or non peaceful SN attempt from their findings. The reason you hear about "SN Failures", is because the successes, which far far outnumber any failures(you never know how well these people followed protocol), do not get reported, for obvious reasons.

 

[dggtscccvfd]

It has a lot of pro's and few cons. So it's a very popular method for that reason. No darknet needed. Low effort to acquire materials. Legal. Fairly high on the peacefulness scale. Affordable. Can be transported discreetly and done anywhere private(unlike something like lugging around a nitrogen tank or charcoal/CO, which needs quite a ... spectacle/performance to get done). Not messy like a shotgun. I'm sure there are more.

The flaws with this method are 1) getting found, 2) vomiting 3) purity of product(It can degrade). One may also have personal quirks like maybe drinking something really salty would be particularly disturbing. One may be a deeply neurotic person so maybe waiting 15 minutes to die would also be terrible for them (Nembutal even, the premium method, would have this to some degree, so there's really no "method-solution" to such a problem-- the better solution is to work on working towards a calmer mind)

Fun fact: Exit International has not seen a single failed or non peaceful SN attempt from their findings. The reason you hear about "SN Failures", is because the successes, which far far outnumber any failures(you never know how well these people followed protocol), do not get reported, for obvious reasons.

I'm going by SN. I'm scared of the 15-20 minutes it takes to go unconscious, just gotta avoid panicking and calling an ambulance. How hard can it be? Lie back, put on my favourite tunes, soon enough it'll be over. Here's to hoping!

 

[Onomatopoeia]

This was my second choice after I got scammed out of $500 for N. But I tried drinking very salty water, and couldn't even get that down. Plus some of the stories are awful about some people suffering for up to an hour. I also think SN will soon go the way of N and be nearly impossible to get by the end of this year, unless you own a food processing company. Way too many high-profile CTB cases out there. Police and customs are now looking for it. If you're going to do this method, you better find the product now, before it's too late.

 

[Argo]

I'm going by SN. I'm scared of the 15-20 minutes it takes to go unconscious, just gotta avoid panicking and calling an ambulance. How hard can it be? Lie back, put on my favourite tunes, soon enough it'll be over. Here's to hoping!

For me personally, I view the suicide process as a longer preparation. I don't view it as... just living normally day by day and then I pick a date and then that's the day where things get serious and suddenly the reality of what I'm doing hits me, and now I nervously head towards the last day of my life. The opposite of that.

Every single day is a preparation for me. I've been fasting a lot lately, both to have the lowest bodyweight possible for the day and also just to get into the comfort zone of discomfort itself. I reflect on what it means to drink something and fully accept that I will die. These kinds of things. I think an oversight people make who are in the category of those who actually seriously attempt, is they don't take this sort of thing into account. They just believe that all they have to do is "the method" and grit their teeth and that'll be it. It still works to do this obviously since many people choose to die in more spontaneous ways, it's just that... I think I will be less likely to fail if I put effort to reflect on death in a way that clear doubt. I don't think death should be full of worry and anxiety and panic(nor should life). I think death should be truly peacefully physically and mentally and I think everyone deserves this, no matter when they die, naturally or self-chosen.

 

[Onomatopoeia]

For me personally, I view the suicide process as a longer preparation. I don't view it as... just living normally day by day and then I pick a date and then that's the day where things get serious and suddenly the reality of what I'm doing hits me, and now I nervously head towards the last day of my life. The opposite of that.

Every single day is a preparation for me. I've been fasting a lot lately, both to have the lowest bodyweight possible for the day and also just to get into the comfort zone of discomfort itself. I reflect on what it means to drink something and fully accept that I will die. These kinds of things. I think an oversight people make who are in the category of those who actually seriously attempt, is they don't take this sort of thing into account. They just believe that all they have to do is "the method" and grit their teeth and that'll be it. It still works to do this obviously since many people choose to die in more spontaneous ways, it's just that... I think I will be less likely to fail if I put effort to reflect on death in a way that clear doubt. I don't think death should be full of worry and anxiety and panic(nor should life). I think death should be truly peacefully physically and mentally and I think everyone deserves this, no matter when they die, naturally or self-chosen.

This is all very true. I've been meditating and going to the gym to get my lungs ready for deep inert gas breaths. I've also stopped eating pretty much all sugar since CO2 is a byproduct and what potentially causes the suffocation effect. I read a little everyday about this method and ask a few questions everyday to learn a little more. Unless you have the guts to just put a large-caliber gun in your mouth and pull the trigger, CTB definitely takes preparation (and in my case a lot of money for all the SCUBA equipment). It's life and death. You must prepare for it if you want it to go smoothly.

SN is a fairly cheap method, and I studied for months when I thought it was my method. The timing of the anti-emetics and prepping yourself to drink what will be the grossest thing you've ever put in your mouth, are very important.

 

[dggtscccvfd]

This is all very true. I've been meditating and going to the gym to get my lungs ready for deep inert gas breaths. I've also stopped eating pretty much all sugar since CO2 is a byproduct and what potentially causes the suffocation effect. I read a little everyday about this method and ask a few questions everyday to learn a little more. Unless you have the guts to just put a large-caliber gun in your mouth and pull the trigger, CTB definitely takes preparation (and in my case a lot of money for all the SCUBA equipment). It's life and death. You must prepare for it if you want it to go smoothly.

SN is a fairly cheap method, and I studied for months when I thought it was my method. The timing of the anti-emetics and prepping yourself to drink what will be the grossest thing you've ever put in your mouth, are very important.

That's the other thing I'm scared of: the taste!

 

[Argo]

That's the other thing I'm scared of: the taste!

If I was really seriously worried about the taste I would get a naso-gastric tube and just run that tube through my nose, into my esophagus, and just inject the SN directly down. I have not thought this through, this is just a "first thing that comes to mind" sort of thing, so this is not advice.

 

[dggtscccvfd]

If I was really seriously worried about the taste I would get a naso-gastric tube and just run that tube through my nose, into my esophagus, and just inject the SN directly down. I have not thought this through, this is just a "first thing that comes to mind" sort of thing, so this is not advice.

I'm not too worried. After all teenagers have successfully CTB this way, so it can't be that bad. Awful taste + 20 minutes of nausea and vomiting = freedom.

 

[Meditation guide]

What we never see anymore and what we saw three years ago on this site were documented minute by minute accounts of what someone experienced as they drank SN.

Now we see accounts of failing at SN where people wake up and shake off the SN they drank by themselves like it was just a night of heavy drinking, which I can't understand since SN is deadly poison.


So here is a link to read an honest account from a while back, in 2020, of the experiences of someone who drank SN so you can judge for yourself what it's like: (scroll down to message number 27 to begin the documented timeline)

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/goodbye-thread.53182/

 

[notforl0ng]

I think it absolutely is.

SS – Fatal Sodium Nitrite (SN / NaNO2) Attempts: Member Methods & Experiences

docs.google.com

As long as you follow the precautions (take an antiemetic regularly three days beforehand, apparently the timing is key) and have the will to make it happen without calling for help or getting found, it's working. A lot of people doubt its reliability but just the very fact that it's extremely difficult to find in NA tells me everything I need to know. There's nothing the government hates more than people killing themselves at prime working age and being unable to contribute tax dollars.

 

[Onomatopoeia]

What we never see anymore and what we saw three years ago on this site were documented minute by minute accounts of what someone experienced as they drank SN.

Now we see accounts of failing at SN where people wake up and shake off the SN they drank by themselves like it was just a night of heavy drinking, which I can't understand since SN is deadly poison.


So here is a link to read an honest account from a while back, in 2020, of the experiences of someone who drank SN so you can judge for yourself what it's like: (scroll down to message number 27 to begin the documented timeline)

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/goodbye-thread.53182/

Wow. I read a whole lot of denial in that thread. This account is exactly what I've read regarding other SN deaths. Sounds awful. He was gone in about 30 minutes, but that was tough to read, and I'm sure tougher to watch (he livestreamed it apparently). The one thing that surprised me was that he puked several times and still died within 30 minutes.

 

[Guy Smiley]

One may be a deeply neurotic person so maybe waiting 15 minutes to die would also be terrible for them...

I really don't think one has to be neurotic to find waiting 15 minutes to die to be terrible.

 

[walkingdead2023]

Opinions? Is it a good method with AE?

After reading some articles about it, I'm not doing sn anymore.. there is no way I can drink that salty creepy taste and not throwing up my whole stomach. I don't think it's peaceful at all.

 

[Meditation guide]

So we see even with lots of vomiting, SN still is deadly. This sounded like a terrible 30 minutes until death. Not all were like this. Some people had about ten minutes of consciousness then abruptly passed out after vomiting, so there is variation, but it was (and again I'm referring to a few years ago) routinely deadly unless someone was rushed to the hospital and got the antidote. I do think the purity of the SN has a lot to do with the effectiveness.

 

[AnonymousL]

I'm going by SN. I'm scared of the 15-20 minutes it takes to go unconscious, just gotta avoid panicking and calling an ambulance. How hard can it be? Lie back, put on my favourite tunes, soon enough it'll be over. Here's to hoping!

That's the only thing I'm scared of. I am a very anxious person so I think those minutes will be dangerous.. I don't have access to benzo's sadly.

This was my second choice after I got scammed out of $500 for N. But I tried drinking very salty water, and couldn't even get that down. Plus some of the stories are awful about some people suffering for up to an hour. I also think SN will soon go the way of N and be nearly impossible to get by the end of this year, unless you own a food processing company. Way too many high-profile CTB cases out there. Police and customs are now looking for it. If you're going to do this method, you better find the product now, before it's too late.

Very salty water imitates the taste of SN?

 

[Deleted member 65988]

So we see even with lots of vomiting, SN still is deadly. This sounded like a terrible 30 minutes until death. Not all were like this. Some people had about ten minutes of consciousness then abruptly passed out after vomiting, so there is variation, but it was (and again I'm referring to a few years ago) routinely deadly unless someone was rushed to the hospital and got the antidote. I do think the purity of the SN has a lot to do with the effectiveness.

i think this hasn't changed, yes there's variation but the more concerning experiences seem to be not as common. The purer, the better as it goes

 

[AnonymousL]

Wow. I read a whole lot of denial in that thread. This account is exactly what I've read regarding other SN deaths. Sounds awful. He was gone in about 30 minutes, but that was tough to read, and I'm sure tougher to watch (he livestreamed it apparently). The one thing that surprised me was that he puked several times and still died within 30 minutes.

They said it was awful to watch but that it seemed like he was unconscious for most of the time. It was peaceful in his point of view but not for the people watching.

A few other comments said that dying isn't glamorous.
And that 30 min of discomfort is worth it and better than some other methods.

 

[schizochicken]

Can definitely see how scary that waiting time can be after drinking SN…. I like the one comment on coming to terms with death, and finding peace within it. I know a lot
Of
Times we just wish to be gone, to stop the pain, as each day is a long treacherous cloud of loneliness and suffering, but i get the chills when i actually come to terms with death, realizing when i take SN (if it ever arrives), that there is no turning back.

 

[Deleted member 65988]

It has a lot of pro's and few cons. So it's a very popular method for that reason. No darknet needed. Low effort to acquire materials. Legal. Fairly high on the peacefulness scale. Affordable. Can be transported discreetly and done anywhere private(unlike something like lugging around a nitrogen tank or charcoal/CO, which needs quite a ... spectacle/performance to get done). Not messy like a shotgun. I'm sure there are more.

The flaws with this method are 1) getting found, 2) vomiting 3) purity of product(It can degrade). One may also have personal quirks like maybe drinking something really salty would be particularly disturbing. One may be a deeply neurotic person so maybe waiting 15 minutes to die would also be terrible for them (Nembutal even, the premium method, would have this to some degree, so there's really no "method-solution" to such a problem-- the better solution is to work on working towards a calmer mind)

Fun fact: Exit International has not seen a single failed or non peaceful SN attempt from their findings. The reason you hear about "SN Failures", is because the successes, which far far outnumber any failures(you never know how well these people followed protocol), do not get reported, for obvious reasons.

i agree with this, of course we will hear about the bad experinces and conclude its terrible ( the symptom's being terrible, the long waiting time of unconsciousness, the aftermath) but after having spoken to others like @DT2007 or @AnonymousRobin who've had their experiences on respective threads that they shared, it isn't so bad considering the symptoms they experienced are in line with what's expected of this method. One particular user even remarked how close she was to ctb despite doing a few things wrong, the peacefulness of it is often debated because it should be, for good personal reason, to decide if it's the method to choose personally or not. While it may not knock you out within seconds and you die in your sleep, it isn't also on the far end of the spectrum of being an arduous and awful thing otherwise we would've unanimously not considered it a good method at all. I think it's also a good point that we don't how well people followed the protocol, some may have omitted the fact that they missed certain steps or did something they shouldn't have like we've seen here, how many times has it been down to user error more than any other reason.

They said it was awful to watch but that it seemed like he was unconscious for most of the time. It was peaceful in his point of view but not for the people watching.

There is something to be said from a psychological perspective about watching someone die in front of you especially if you aren't adjusted to it from a medical standpoint so it'll be awful to witness.

That's the only thing I'm scared of. I am a very anxious person so I think those minutes will be dangerous.. I don't have access to benzo's sadly.

If that's the case then maybe you should either wait to get some kind of solution for that or perhaps if it's possible, find some other alternative but either way, whether it's sn or not, si will be present.

 

[notforl0ng]

They said it was awful to watch but that it seemed like he was unconscious for most of the time. It was peaceful in his point of view but not for the people watching.

A few other comments said that dying isn't glamorous.
And that 30 min of discomfort is worth it and better than some other methods.

The only deaths that look peaceful are old age expiration and being put down in a medical setting in my opinion. The unconscious body can do a lot of horrendous looking shit. None of this dissuades me from trying SN to CTB.

Anybody who thinks SN isn't a good method should see what partial suspension looks like while the unconscious person chews their own tongue and makes terrifying gurgling sounds while thrashing around hitting the wall. They don't feel any of it, but assuming you can get your neck through that knot long enough to lose consciousness, it's considered a fast and effective way to CTB.

 

[ijustwishtodie]

I think that sn is a relatively peaceful method. Yes, there's still bad aspects to it that people have pointed out here but it's far better than the other methods available. It sounds better than jumping, hanging, drowning, gunshot etc. Even with the drawbacks of sn, it's still relatively peaceful

 

[Kasumi]

It's something I'm considering, but I've been seeing that it's hard to get in the UK

took a while until I found it but I knew there was a thread from someone who got theirs recently.
maybe if the suicide subforum wasnt cluttered with random offtopic threads....
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sn-just-arrived-to-uk-cant-believe-it.149821/

 

[Old Friend]

Now we see accounts of failing at SN where people wake up and shake off the SN they drank by themselves like it was just a night of heavy drinking, which I can't understand since SN is deadly poison.

SN converts hemoglobin into methmeglobulin, which is unable to transport oxygen around the body. The body naturally converts methmeglobulin back to hemoglobin.

If the amount absorbed is small enough, the body may have time to convert enough of it back before it causes death. Taking a large enough dose should overwhelm this natural process and prevent giving the body time to convert enough of it back before the lack of oxygen causes death.

SN is only a poison due to the relatively large amount you are injesting. Indeed, you find it, in tiny amounts, in certain foods. You are, in fact, overdosing on it.