Only Murderers are allowed to die a decent death

[soonatpeace777888]

Murderers can get the death penalty, in which they simply sit in a chair and have drugs administered that will kill them in a short period of time. There is no fear for them of being disabled because of failure because if the drugs do fail, they will simply administer more. Their death is completely guaranteed and supervised.

People who are innocent have to kill themselves in undignified ways like hanging or blowing your brains all over the place. Or self poisoning. There is risk of failure and you could live the rest of your life as a vegetable. If you don't commit suicide you have to wait to die by being eaten alive by cancer, or heart disease, or have your brain rot away from dementia.

 

[FuneralCry]

This is because we exist in such a disgustingly anti-suicide society where life is seen as a "gift" and where death is always absurdly seen as being worse than suffering despite the fact that nobody can suffer from not existing. The fact that a peaceful way to cease existing isn't a human right is inhumane to me.

 

[アホペンギン]

Yeah, its absurd how only murderers or people who have broken some serious laws are granted the privilege to die in peace. Of course, they don't want to die but they have come to accept the fact that there's no other choice for themselves. I wish normal people were also provided something similar to this so we don't have to go through the fear of suffering from a disability after a failed attempt or just the hassle of acquiring all of the required materials to go through with ctb. The only way anyone like us would be able to do this legally (afaik its illegal in a few countries) is applying for VAD (Voluntary assisted death, if you weren't aware of what it meant.) But then you'd have to prove to them that you have a chronic illness or something incurable for them to accept your application, its also very expensive, another reason why its very difficulty to do. This is only the case because the present society views life as a gift and assumes anyone enjoys their life, despite being unaware of all their suffering that they endure on a daily basis.

 

[MyChoiceAlone]

i think you get the death penalty in singapore for trafficking drugs if you don't wanna go the murder route and you don't mind sitting in a cell for who knows how long. i wonder if you can just plead guilty to speed up the process.

 

[Deleted member 65988]

It's a bit fucked though, Murderers get to die a relatively peaceful death while their victims died terrifying and gruesome deaths.

 

[befree]

in which they simply sit in a chair and have drugs administered that will kill them in a short period of time.

The drug combo they get can be extremely painful. For this reason, there have long been supply problems for one of the drugs in this combo, because the manufacturer refused to continue supplying this drug. And there were many cases where the drug combo didn´work immediately and had to be injected again over a longer period of time. This meant a long, painful death struggle for the person.

 

[Sweet Tart]

The drug combo they get can be extremely painful. For this reason, there have long been supply problems for one of the drugs in this combo, because the manufacturer refused to continue supplying this drug. And there were many cases where the drug combo didn´work immediately and had to be injected again over a longer period of time. This meant a long, painful death struggle for the person.

Seconding this. In the past decade or so, there have been a number of executions by supposedly lethal injection in which it took the person hours to die in apparent agony.

One notable case: In 2018, Doyle Lee Hamm's execution was called off after 2½ hours of unsuccessful attempts to set an intravenous execution line. He had cancer, and history of Hep C and IV drug use. Prior to the attempt to execute him, it was known that it would be difficult and likely cause him a lot of pain, but it went forward anyway. He later died of cancer in prison.

Some states allow the person to choose from a list of execution options. I remember one guy within the past few years chose a firing squad. This would be my choice due to the speed and accuracy.

 

[Gonnerr]

This world is unfair and will always be. Since im young this is one of the things that made me realize we are in hell. Your example is proof of it.

Living for just a fraction of time for nothing. This is hell. Being alive can never be a good thing. Nothingness is heaven.

 

[Kurai]

It's worst to be alive and forced to live in a hellish society I feel like a prisoner

 

[art355]

I sort of hope I get terminal cancer because where I am you can get Medical Assistance in Dying then before it becomes too severe.

 

[Orbitc]

Murderers can get the death penalty, in which they simply sit in a chair and have drugs administered that will kill them in a short period of time. There is no fear for them of being disabled because of failure because if the drugs do fail, they will simply administer more. Their death is completely guaranteed and supervised.

People who are innocent have to kill themselves in undignified ways like hanging or blowing your brains all over the place. Or self poisoning. There is risk of failure and you could live the rest of your life as a vegetable. If you don't commit suicide you have to wait to die by being eaten alive by cancer, or heart disease, or have your brain rot away from dementia.

I somehow joked that if I lived in America, then I would get a painless death after having fun with those whom I hate)) murderes perceive it as a punishment, we see it as a well release from a painful life

 

[befree]

People who fail to ctb should be sentenced for attempted murder and given the death penalty

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[Forever Sleep]

Seconding this. In the past decade or so, there have been a number of executions by supposedly lethal injection in which it took the person hours to die in apparent agony.

One notable case: In 2018, Doyle Lee Hamm's execution was called off after 2½ hours of unsuccessful attempts to set an intravenous execution line. He had cancer, and history of Hep C and IV drug use. Prior to the attempt to execute him, it was known that it would be difficult and likely cause him a lot of pain, but it went forward anyway. He later died of cancer in prison.

Some states allow the person to choose from a list of execution options. I remember one guy within the past few years chose a firing squad. This would be my choice due to the speed and accuracy.

I've never understood why they don't just use nembutal. Maybe they do now.

It is a controvercial subject. Even just the death penalty itself. I have mixed views really. Still- I do sympathise with the OP- I can't help but feel envy when I see prisoners being given a quick, clean death- if it is that. Not that I think they should have a gruesome death but yeah- there certainly is an irony there. SOME of them will have put people through unspeakable pain- yet- they- in theory- get a quick, humane exit. A lot of people who CTB did absolutely nothing wrong. Quite a few were perhaps the victims in life in fact. Yet, we're stuck with awful, brutal and unreliable methods for the most part.

 

[ImsooDone1N]

They don't use Nembutal because the 2 companies that make it refuse to sell it to the us prison system for use in executions. About 8~ years ago Lundbeck, the sole manufacturer for sodium pentathal also stopped selling to the US for use in executions. Hospira, a us company had no problem, however they stopped making it in 2011, making Lundbeck the sole producer. In 2014/15 Lundbeck also decided to refuse to sell to the US prison system. This has caused the prisons to try alternative methods in the past 10 years, some of which did not at all work as planned and caused prolonged, painful deaths.

In the movie law abiding citizen, there is a scene where a killer getting executed has a gruesome death. The protagonist of the film had the drugs switched somewhere during the shipping process, so the person who killed his family wouldn't have a peaceful death. The second person involved in killing his family just serves a short period- however he is trapped by the protagonist & he kills him by sawing off every limb of his body.

 

[foreverfalling]

You're still forced to spend a decade in death row. They'll always find ways to torture you.

 

[Das Nichts]

Not defending any murderer, but I think it makes a huge difference if you don't want to die.

 

[Orbitc]

A painless dying could've been had by all if they hadn't banned nembutal , fentanyl, assisted suicide etc

Think about this 3 mg of fentanyl injected can be lethal. But that is real pure fentanyl. So if you take grams of fentanyl even orally , buccally, injected, or snorted there's no way u won't die instantly and painlessly

You can hardly see 3mg it's so small. They took away the escapes from torture.

And carfentanyl is many times stronger than fentanyl

It's banned precisely because it's so deadly and can be used to kill someone - you probably won't get any taste in the juice glass but it's guaranteed to kill you.

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

It's banned precisely because it's so deadly and can be used to kill someone - you probably won't get any taste in the juice glass but it's guaranteed to kill you.

Why is nembutal and assisted suicide a crime? it's to keep us slaves prisoners in this hell.

Why is sn so heavily restricted.? Same reason

 

[Orbitc]

Why is nembutal and assisted suicide a crime? it's to keep us slaves prisoners in this hell

Why is sn so heavily restricted.? Same reason

When you're dead you won't be able to pay taxes)))

 

[_Alfarooq_]

This is because we exist in such a disgustingly anti-suicide society where life is seen as a "gift" and where death is always absurdly seen as being worse than suffering despite the fact that nobody can suffer from not existing. The fact that a peaceful way to cease existing isn't a human right is inhumane to me.

If life is a "gift" I don't even know what I have done to deserve it. If anything, I don't even deserve to exist, because I am a failure here.

 

[Alltheywanted]

Well, they are forced to die, and they are not allowed, as you said. It makes a big difference. Remember, we live in a highly pro-life word where death is seen as something bad and terrible.

However I can somehow agree on your point.

 

[art355]

You're still forced to spend a decade in death row. They'll always find ways to torture you.

Not if you plead guilty?

 

[Sad Avocado]

Murderers can get the death penalty, in which they simply sit in a chair and have drugs administered that will kill them in a short period of time. There is no fear for them of being disabled because of failure because if the drugs do fail, they will simply administer more. Their death is completely guaranteed and supervised.

People who are innocent have to kill themselves in undignified ways like hanging or blowing your brains all over the place. Or self poisoning. There is risk of failure and you could live the rest of your life as a vegetable. If you don't commit suicide you have to wait to die by being eaten alive by cancer, or heart disease, or have your brain rot away from dementia.

i never thought of this honestly. I think its absurd that someone who did something unforgivable or someone who is practically a monster deserves a quick and painless death (because even if the lethal substance causes pain they are administred two substances before: the first one causes relaxations and the second one is a sedative) and then someone that just wants to end their suffering has to suffer even more to have a slight chance to acheive that. I get it that suicide shouldnt be the first option and that everything to help someone should be done, or at least tried. But if that isnt avoidable, why should someone suffer and not have the right to a peaceful dignified way to go?

 

[shantyizlit]

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poor attempt at a joke my bad

 

[EndJstifiesTheMeans]

Life is really horrible

 

[enough of this]

It's worst to be alive and forced to live in a hellish society I feel like a prisoner

I feel like a prisoner, too. I'm looking forward to the day I'm finally paroled.

 

[Emma123]

That's why I'm against death penalty, not because I want to defend murderers or because I think that they're innocent in anyway, I think that death is too good for them. Imagine you have any relative who's everything to you and you see a stranger just taking that away from you, you go in court ecc, find out that they got a death sentence, you watch them die and that's it, that's not justice, most of the time these killers WANT to have a death sentence, so if we consider this we're basically giving them what they want, it's unfair. It'll be much better to see a murderer rot in prison for the rest of his miserable life with no possibility of parole.

 

[TheHuman]

This has never made any sense to me on how if you commit a severe crime you get punished by peace? it makes no sense how we think the death "penalty" as a penalty its so stupid if you want justice leave a person to rot in the body that they are trapped in. I just don't understand

 

[Install-Gentoo]

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Fair, but I don't think the person had really ill intent. I think it's less of "people who fail to CTB should be punished" and more like "I wish that if I attempted and it didn't work, that someone would complete it for me"
But yeah, poor wording. And I think it's obviously a bad idea in practice.

 

[FindingHome]

The people on death row are so lucky. They can die a peaceful death.