Discussion Only humans believe in God…

[Fadeaway_bankz]

Only humans believe in God. That's what I have noticed…

 

[bl33ding_heart]

Well we aren't exactly entirely sure of that lol.

 

[theboy]

Of course
Animals have no spirit

 

[ChainedCrow]

Most likekly they dont belive in any god like in christranity/islam or Ancient Greek religion because they just cant make such a complex theory on their own but there are studies that suggest they have a form of proto-religious faith, some animals do have ritual behaviors just going to quote wikipedia page on it "Ritual behaviors are most commonly studied in chimpanzees,elephants,and dolphins, but such behaviors have also been observed in other animals, such as magpies,crows and orcas." For sure they arent capable of creating religions like christianity,islam etc and they are not capable of comprehending or just generally dont need to know things in life that are impossible to answer like for example what happends in the afterlife or how the world came to life. Much love

 

[Pluto]

 

[Fadeaway_bankz]

Of course
Animals have no spirit

And humans do? Humans are worst than animals…

 

[Dejected 55]

I don't know if we know that for a fact. Until we determine a way to accurately and repeatably communicate with other animals, we really don't know.

 

[theboy]

And humans do? Humans are worst than animals…

I'm not talking about good or bad
:)

 

[EvisceratedJester]

And humans do? Humans are worst than animals…

Humans are literally animals. I don't mean that in the metaphorical sense, I mean this literally. We are biologically classified as animals.

Also, I don't get the point of this thread. I mean, yeah. God is a manmade construct. It's likely that humans are the only animals who possess the mental capabilities needed to even question life and the universe deeply enough to come up with such a concept. What are you trying to get at?

 

[Gustav Hartmann]

I wonder whether KI believes in God.

 

[Poiter1987]

Of course
Animals have no spirit

Says who? When we were just cavemen we were pretty much animals. We are just highly evolved. What is to say life for us is really any different from an animal? They certainly seem to be alive. They must have there own form of consciousness. Maybe not like ours but they are clearly aware.

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

A Human is cells the same cells in other animals . An individual brain cell in a fly Mouse lizard crow human are an identical neuron

Humans don't have such greater mental powers than than other animals. The difference is that humans have language. Even with language and training it still takes around at least 7 years for a human child to fully understand that Death is universal, inevitable, and permanent. Most children before age 7 don't fully understand Death is universal, inevitable, and permanent. But this could be also because Death is taboo and hardly ever talked about

what does a human know at 2 days old . Not much

So I don't see how other animals would know what Death or the concept of a god is since they don't have language

 

[Thekla]

I mean, maybe? My cat can't speak so I wouldn't know.

 

[cemeteryismyhome]

Humans are animals, no? Anyway, I asked both the cat and the dog which live in the same house as me, and I am waiting for their answer.

 

[EvisceratedJester]

When we were just cavemen we were pretty much animals.

We were never cavemen. Most humans in the past did not live in caves and the ones who did only used them as temporary shelters. Most humans in the past lived in nomadic hunter-gatherer tribes.

 

[theboy]

Says who? When we were just cavemen we were pretty much animals. We are just highly evolved. What is to say life for us is really any different from an animal? They certainly seem to be alive. They must have there own form of consciousness. Maybe not like ours but they are clearly aware.

Bro
Just an opinion

 

[Dejected 55]

A Human is cells the same cells in other animals . An individual brain cell in a fly Mouse lizard crow human are an identical neuron

Humans don't have such greater mental powers than than other animals. The difference is that humans have language. Even with language and training it still takes around at least 7 years for a human child to fully understand that Death is universal, inevitable, and permanent. Most children before age 7 don't fully understand Death is universal, inevitable, and permanent. But this could be also because Death is taboo and hardly ever talked about

what does a human know at 2 days old . Not much

So I don't see how other animals would know what Death or the concept of a god is since they don't have language

Animals, like elephants, clearly understand death. Also, many animals (most?) communicate with each other. Just because they don't "speak" in a language we don't understand doesn't mean they don't have one. If a higher-level alien came to our planet and didn't have a clue how to understand our language, they would think us quite dumb to observe our actions, especially how we treat each other.

Birds build nests... birds and chimps make tools to use. Also, by our very existence we hold back other forms of life from evolving. We kill some and over-provide for others, inhibiting any natural evolution in those species. At the time we evolved, there must have been no other such alpha animal on the planet to hold us back.

We just don't have enough evidence to say much about how other animals think, what they "believe" and so forth. I keep hearing people say that without language dogs can have no memory, can't remember anything... yet they remember you even if you're gone for years... they remember the tricks you train them to do when you say certain words. So, clearly they have memories, ways to organize thoughts, and the ability to understand when you communicate to them even if you don't understand how they communicate with you.

 

[EvisceratedJester]

Also, by our very existence we hold back other forms of life from evolving. We kill some and over-provide for others, inhibiting any natural evolution in those species. At the time we evolved, there must have been no other such alpha animal on the planet to hold us back.

Our existence isn't holding other animals back from evolving. Evolution just refers to changes in the frequency of heritable traits in a population over successive generations. Even with humans messing around, evolution is still going on. Take, for example, animals living in Chernobyl or antibiotic bacteria.

 

[Dejected 55]

Our existence isn't holding other animals back from evolving. Evolution just refers to changes in the frequency of heritable traits in a population over successive generations. Even with humans messing around, evolution is still going on. Take, for example, animals living in Chernobyl or antibiotic bacteria.

But we are so present almost everywhere... the only places evolution can happen naturally is a nuclear disaster that keeps the humans out... or deep in the ocean where we can't typically go. Your observation kind of proves my point. Everywhere that humans are, we impede evolution.

Kind of like how the extinction event that killed off the dinosaurs finally allowed smaller mammals to evolve and thrive.

 

[EvisceratedJester]

But we are so present almost everywhere... the only places evolution can happen naturally is a nuclear disaster that keeps the humans out... or deep in the ocean where we can't typically go. Your observation kind of proves my point. Everywhere that humans are, we impede evolution.

Kind of like how the extinction event that killed off the dinosaurs finally allowed smaller mammals to evolve and thrive.

There are still plenty of places where human presence is minimal. My observation does not prove your point since the evolution that those animals went through specifically happened due to human activity. If it weren't for the Chernobyl nuclear incident, the evolutionary course of populations living in the Chernobyl exclusion zone would be very different. It's because of these populations being forced to adapt to the increases in radioactivity in their environment that caused the changes in those populations we see today. My example basically highlights how humans impact evolution, not the opposite.

 

[Dejected 55]

But no "lower" life form is going to be able to thrive in the way humans do while humans are here. There is no biological advantage for any particular evolution as long as humans are here to take care of things.

 

[EvisceratedJester]

But no "lower" life form is going to be able to thrive in the way humans do while humans are here. There is no biological advantage for any particular evolution as long as humans are here to take care of things.

What? Human activity has arguably had a major impact on evolution by creating more pressure on organisms to have to adapt to an ever-changing environment. Our activity has arguably more selective pressures, not less. Populations of organisms now have to adapt to more extreme environmental conditions, pollution, urbanization, etc. These are new and major selective pressures that would cause more evolutionary changes, not less.

Many "lower" life forms have been experiencing a lot of evolutionary changes thanks to us (I'm not saying this is a good thing, btw).

 

[Dejected 55]

Maybe I need to take a step back... The life forms we are trying to eradicate from existence (bacteria, microbes, virii, etc.) either get wiped out or evolve to be resistant. This is true. They aren't necessarily getting smarter or developing language and civilizations, though. It's just the ones immune to what we try to kill them with have a better chance of survival. So, that form of evolution does happen due to our interference.

But nothing is going to develop a language and society while we are here because there is no evolutionary advantage for them to do so. Either they are just trying to survive our attacks and evolve in that way... OR we are helping to ensure they have all they need to survive (the animals we like who we keep as pets or protect as endangered species, etc.) and so they have no reason to develop more advanced skills and language and society and such.