OD - yes I know it's unreliable but...

[Iwantoutrightnow]

I know that OD is unreliable but I am seriously considering paracetamol OD. My friend ctb on paracetamol and alcohol, they say it took her a week to die after she OD'd.

I have been considering hanging for a while but my attempts at partial have been a resounding failure and I have stood on a chair for hours to ctb by full suspension but just can't find the courage to kick the chair away.

I have od'd in the past, before I found this site and before I knew that oding was unreliable. When I took the od I didn't have a problem with SI at all which is why I am considering it now.

The restrictions in the UK due to covid are easing rapidly and I can't stand it. Hearing all the cars and people - life going on around me and I don't want to be part of it. Hiding in my flat isn't enough anymore as I can hear life going on too much.

I have 102 paracetamol and vodka, my question is will this amount be enough to kill me within a week like my friend or could it still take months for me to die? I have cut my phone line and cancelled my mobile phone contract so I won't be able to call for an ambulance. I'm not on social media so can't tell anyone what I've done and ask them to call for help for me. To get myself to A&E I would have to walk 30 mins to the train station, take a train for 20 mins and then a bus for 40 mins which would be too much for me considering I have left my flat once since April and only for 30 mins. There is no risk of me being found by anyone for at least a week. I know it would be painful and a nasty way to go but that's ok, I just need to know if what I have will do it in a week?

 

[AnxietyAttack44]

Even if its just a week, that is a long time to die

 

[Iwantoutrightnow]

Yes it is but so long as I do die that's all that matters to me. Months would be too long but a week I can take.

All the posts I have read discouraging it talk about organ damage and drips in hospital but if I don't get any help then it will be fatal right?

 

[AnxietyAttack44]

Im not too sure either but would like to hear more about it as well. I know some people od'd on aspirin as well but just as slow and painful. Best to wait and see

 

[Iwantoutrightnow]

I suppose I could just do it anyway and if I'm still here in a week give hanging another try. I imagine people are sick of commenting on posts about ods, it would just be helpful for information on how long it would take to die if no interventions are given

 

[Simba]

First time i ever ODid was on paracetamol ,i hated it . I hated the fact that i was puking a lot.. i ended up panicking and stayed in hospital for over 3 days. My psychiatrist was surprised that i was still alive and that no damage was done to any of my body; ie liver damage and so on :/

 

[Iwantoutrightnow]

I've taken 125 paracetamol with vodka before but I lived with my boyfriend and he found me and I was treated in hospital. My liver was ok, my eyes were yellow and bloodshot for a few days. But this time I won't go to hospital.

 

[Mm80]

I od when i was younger took about 75 and was treated with an antidote in hospital.
I think that amount would be fatal but si would kick in due to the excruciating pain of the liver slowly failing.im sure your intemtions are not to seek help but i think the pain would be unbearable. Having said that if you waited for the delayed reaction and didnt seek help quickly enough, im not sure what the docs could do, maybe pain relief. I believe the key with paracetamol od is quick intervention.

 

[suffering]

When I took the od I didn't have a problem with SI at all which is why I am considering it now.

Would you mind please expanding on this a bit? I have HUGE issues with my SI and I don't know how to overcome it. You mean that if I start taking paracetamol pill by pill with vodka my SI will might quiet down?

 

[Iwantoutrightnow]

@suffering no I can't say for certain that this would happen. The times that I have od'd in the past was before I found this site, before I knew how unreliable oding is. I simply read that od could be fatal and took it to mean that if I took loads I would die. I think that ignorance helped me as I had no fear that it would fail. I suppose that now I know differently SI could be more problematic but then again if I know that I will die if I don't get help that could help me. The times that I've od'd I felt a sense of peace whilst I was taking the pills that I have not felt when trying hanging, I don't know if this is because of the method or because I had no fear of failure. I never took the pills 1 at a time, always in handfuls, I was also never sick until I was in hospital.

@Mm80 I think the only way I could get help now would be to knock on a neighbour's door, I guess that's a danger but none of my neighbours talk to me so they probably wouldn't help me anyway

 

[TowerUpright]

Laying in a hospital for a week doesn't sound pleasant at all, especially if there's a decent chance of surviving anyway.

Better to OD on opiods and Alcohol (perhaps benzos as well) and be sure you're doing something permanent.

 

[ebt88]

Whats about getting SN or ODing with heroine/coke? I read someone said the latter was relatively easy

 

[Anonymoussn]

Paracetamol is not a good idea. And nor are almost all of the OTC options out there. I tried this twice and it just made me horrendously sick for a few days. Vomiting profusely over and over again. It's basically like you have food poisoning but much worse. The last attempt was over 5 years ago, yet every time I swallow a pill even now it makes me gag.

Also, in the unlikely event that it actually works, you'll slowly die of liver failure, in excruciating pain in hospital, which will most likely lead to you spending your last days miserable, regretting what you did.

Theres also the chance that the attempt will lead you with permanent organ damage, which will make your circumstances much worse.

I beg you not to try this. There are other options out there which have a much higher success rate, less risk, and less pain.

I od when i was younger took about 75 and was treated with an antidote in hospital.
I think that amount would be fatal but si would kick in due to the excruciating pain of the liver slowly failing.im sure your intemtions are not to seek help but i think the pain would be unbearable. Having said that if you waited for the delayed reaction and didnt seek help quickly enough, im not sure what the docs could do, maybe pain relief. I believe the key with paracetamol od is quick intervention.

I dont think there is a magic number. The more pills you take, the more water you will have to take. And if you take that many pills and that much water you're far more likely to vomit quicker anyway. Hence why this method is so unreliable.

 

[Iwantoutrightnow]

Laying in a hospital for a week doesn't sound pleasant at all,

I have no intention of lying in hospital for a week, I'll be laying at home alone, dying painfully there

Whats about getting SN or ODing with heroine/coke

If I could get any of these yes they would be a more preferable option but I can't

excruciating pain in hospital

I don't deny that the pain will be horrendous, but I won't be in hospital, like I said I can't call for help as I have no phone now. My neighbours would be my only option to call for help and they're all arses and I really don't think they'd help anyway

 

[Anonymoussn]

I have no intention of lying in hospital for a week, I'll be laying at home alone, dying painfully there



If I could get any of these yes they would be a more preferable option but I can't



I don't deny that the pain will be horrendous, but I won't be in hospital, like I said I can't call for help as I have no phone now. My neighbours would be my only option to call for help and they're all arses and I really don't think they'd help anyway

I struggle to imagine a scenario where your organs are failing and you don't alert your neighbours or anyone around you. You cant kick a chair away due to SI, but you think that you'll be able to avoid screaming out for help, or going over to your neighbours house when your liver is failing? This isn't something which is just going to make you lose consciousness, or even incapacitate you. You will be awake for large parts of it and suffering. I wouldn't even consider this as a last resort. I have first hand experience with this method, and it was horrible. And I also know someone who died as a result of it too, and that was horrible too. She died after 18 days.

Why is it that SN is unavailable to you? I can advise you on multiple places you can buy it from online, wherever you are.

What about partial suspension? That doesnt require anything that you wont be able to obtain. Or perhaps CO? Everything you need is available OTC.

 

[Aftex]

It's not a nice way to go, I've attempted it twice. Once when I was drunk and the second time was when I was in prison, I don't remember the first time since I blacked out but when I was in prison I would say it was worse because I had to hide my symptoms as well, this was at the start of covid lockdown so had a cell mate with me 24 hrs a day.

The pain was bad, not the most painful thing I have ever felt but it was up there, I would say the nausea was the worst part for me, 3 days of feeling like I'm about to vomit every second of the day. I'm not sure if vomiting would of helped but I wasn't in a position to do so since I was trying to hide it. Unfortunately I got better by the end of the week.

I'm pretty sure I have damaged my liver in some way, not 100% sure since I successfully hid this attempt but I still get pain where my liver is every day or two.

If you have any other options I wouldn't go down this route.

 

[Mm80]

Paracetamol is not a good idea. And nor are almost all of the OTC options out there. I tried this twice and it just made me horrendously sick for a few days. Vomiting profusely over and over again. It's basically like you have food poisoning but much worse. The last attempt was over 5 years ago, yet every time I swallow a pill even now it makes me gag.

Also, in the unlikely event that it actually works, you'll slowly die of liver failure, in excruciating pain in hospital, which will most likely lead to you spending your last days miserable, regretting what you did.

Theres also the chance that the attempt will lead you with permanent organ damage, which will make your circumstances much worse.

I beg you not to try this. There are other options out there which have a much higher success rate, less risk, and less pain.

I dont think there is a magic number. The more pills you take, the more water you will have to take. And if you take that many pills and that much water you're far more likely to vomit quicker anyway. Hence why this method is so unreliable.

I never said there was a magic number, just that my opinion is that 100 paracetamol is enough to kill someone if not treated quickly.
I don't think you would need that much water to down 100 tablets, maybe a litre. Not sure about vomiting but not heard of it being a problem.

 

[Simba]

I never said there was a magic number, just that my opinion is that 100 paracetamol is enough to kill someone if not treated quickly.
I don't think you would need that much water to down 100 tablets, maybe a litre. Not sure about vomiting but not heard of it being a problem.

When i ODd i only took 30 pills. It was i think 15 thousand mg not sure but it was after i read the info from ash suicide faq :/

 

[Mm80]

When i ODd i only took 30 pills. It was i think 15 thousand mg not sure but it was after i read the info from ash suicide faq :/

And what happened?

 

[Simba]

And what happened?

I puked a lot :( i don't like puking at all and after that attempt i stay clear from paracetamol even if i had headache or whatever there is NO F WAY that I'll ever touch it. Ever. !! Thing is ,i only told my family after a day - when it was already too late to pump it out or whatever.. wasn't great at all :/

 

[FriendofDeath]

@suffering no I can't say for certain that this would happen. The times that I have od'd in the past was before I found this site, before I knew how unreliable oding is. I simply read that od could be fatal and took it to mean that if I took loads I would die. I think that ignorance helped me as I had no fear that it would fail. I suppose that now I know differently SI could be more problematic but then again if I know that I will die if I don't get help that could help me. The times that I've od'd I felt a sense of peace whilst I was taking the pills that I have not felt when trying hanging, I don't know if this is because of the method or because I had no fear of failure. I never took the pills 1 at a time, always in handfuls, I was also never sick until I was in hospital.

@Mm80 I think the only way I could get help now would be to knock on a neighbour's door, I guess that's a danger but none of my neighbours talk to me so they probably wouldn't help me anyway

I think if I was going this route I'd mix something with it that might cause me to feel drowsy. I was in hospital with a woman that tried to od on her kidney medication. She lay on the floor for hours at home and has permanent damage to her kidneys now - has to do dialysis. I don't know if she called for help or she was found.

 

[KibblesNBits]

Why is it that SN is unavailable to you? I can advise you on multiple places you can buy it from online, wherever you are.

Is it okay to ask for you to pm me these places? My order got swiped in customs from the look of things.

 

[autumnal]

Is it okay to ask for you to pm me these places? My order got swiped in customs from the look of things.

Bear in mind that the Coronavirus has caused massive delays in customs processing, international mail and domestic mail delivery. So it could just be that.

 

[Anonymoussn]

I never said there was a magic number, just that my opinion is that 100 paracetamol is enough to kill someone if not treated quickly.
I don't think you would need that much water to down 100 tablets, maybe a litre. Not sure about vomiting but not heard of it being a problem.

Vomiting is very likely. I mentioned in a previous post - but I vomited a lot both times when I tried. And I can see another user here has said the same. Also a liter of water is quite a lot, really. If you're ingesting toxins that your body is going to treat like poison, you wouldn't want to have that much in your stomach. With SN for example, the recommended amount of water is 100ml, and too much water is said to make you puke with that method. So My point is that I dont think 100 pills would necessarily be more likely to be lethal than say, 75. Because by that point the more pills you take, the more likely you are going to be to throw up. Hence my point about there not being a magic number.

 

[Mm80]

Vomiting is very likely. I mentioned in a previous post - but I vomited a lot both times when I tried. And I can see another user here has said the same. Also a liter of water is quite a lot, really. If you're ingesting toxins that your body is going to treat like poison, you wouldn't want to have that much in your stomach. With SN for example, the recommended amount of water is 100ml, and too much water is said to make you puke with that method. So My point is that I dont think 100 pills would necessarily be more likely to be lethal than say, 75. Because by that point the more pills you take, the more likely you are going to be to throw up. Hence my point about there not being a magic number.

I suppose it depends on the individual. Ive took a large od of paracetamol and not puked and i know plenty of others the same.
I dont think sn can be compared to paracetamol od regards nausea. I think its much more likely that the body would instantly reject sn than paracetamol. I dont know enough about the lethal numbers but think 100 would be enough.

 

[Soul]

My neighbours would be my only option to call for help and they're all arses and I really don't think they'd help anyway

Arses or not, if you're crawling around or collapsed in the shared corridor or staircase one of them will phone emergency services. Please be careful with yourself and find a better method.

 

[Scooby-Doo]

The pain gets unbearable using this method. I was constantly sick for hours and couldn't stand up straight. It was touch and go whether I lived because I was thin. I was scared for a little while then I thought carefully why I did it in the first place and I was at peace. Weird thing was when I stopped being scared I got better.

 

[Living sucks]

For everyone in this thread... if you're serious about OD and just can't find another way... all pills need to be crushed and dissolved in small amount of water. Not taken in handfuls

 

[ebt88]

Some methods to consider: night night, detergent, methanol. You can find info on the forum using the search function. All these require common items but reliability/peacefulness might no be optimal

 

[FriendofDeath]

Check out the Peaceful Pill eBook available on the site. Found parts very interesting.