Resource Non-methods that should not be attempted

[idelttoilfsadness21]

Breathing in, um, bleach

 

[Rivermouse]

I think pesticides, Drano, insecticides without taking into account the suffering involved should also be added. The high likelihood that your organs are forever going to be permanently damaged not to mention the horrific pain and rigidity of muscles, and the list goes on it's just not a realistic method or at least I don't think, not a high likelihood of death but a high likelihood of lifelong self-imposed hell

My hsb's 96 yr old father took rat poison years ago and it took him months to die. Ugh!

 

[Silently Dying]

Anything on muriatic acid and lime sulfur?

 

[Confusedsoul12345]

I have a question regarding cutting.Will it work if we use electric cutting knife and target cateroid artery?

 

[StonerVsAlly]

Will fork on electric outlet will do any works? I've prepared the fork recently in case i'm losing it and doing it in barbaric way, but idk if it'd be effective, i suppose the failsafe or whatever it's called will make the electricity in my house goes out first, but shouldn't the electricity that flowed in the body before would be enough already?

 

[ShatteredSerenity]

Will fork on electric outlet will do any works? I've prepared the fork recently in case i'm losing it and doing it in barbaric way, but idk if it'd be effective, i suppose the failsafe or whatever it's called will make the electricity in my house goes out first, but shouldn't the electricity that flowed in the body before would be enough already?

Just now dangerous that is depends on where exactly you're sticking that fork.

The outlet will have 2 or 3 holes: hot, netural, and (optionally) ground.

If you stick a fork in ground and/or neutral nothing will happen. They return electrical current back to the source.

If you stick the fork in the hot and neutral or hot and ground holes, you might get a brief shock but you'll quickly trip the circuit breaker and all electrical current will stop at the outlet and others on the same circuit.

If you stick the fork in the hot hole, you will get shocked for sure, but how strong it is depends on multiple factors such as how conductive your shoes are, the electrical properties of the flooring, and where you touch the fork. Typically you will reflexively pull back from the electrical current since it makes your muscles tense up. It's not safe to do this, but you're not likely to get killed.

If you stick one fork in the hot hole, and another fork in the neutral hole, then touch both forks you will get a much stronger shock. How dangerous it is depends on where you touch the forks and for how long.

People die from electrocution when electrical current disrupts the electrical impulses that control the heart so it stops beating. There are too many factors to predict what will be enough to be fatal. If you're unlucky (or lucky depending on the perspective) just a short burst of electricity could be fatal. Otherwise the electricity will cause muscle spasms, burns, seizures, and unconsciousness.

It's not a good method to CTB because it's extremely unrealiable.

 

[HairyBum96]

Hi, I was just wondering if tying a rope really tight around my neck while on prescription pain killers will help the process of an easy suicide, idk and I'm no doctor I just want an easy and painless way to die, whenever I'm at the train station I stand at the edge thinking about jumping infront of a train, but then I bitch it.

 

[Ponzi]

mod note: this has been added to the suicide resource compilation at the top.

This has been made in response to the ever increasing amount of posts made about highly unlikely methods. Please read before posting about one of these methods or feel free to link if someone does post about them.

This thread is meant to prevent people from trying methods that are almost certain to not kill them but likely to cause harm, whether temporary or permanent. Any method listed in this thread should not be attempted by anyone, and should not be considered a method. I do not give advice on methods that will kill you, as it goes against my personal beliefs, so I will not be responding to any questions asking about them. This has been made for harm reduction to prevent people from ending up in a worse off situation.

Tylenol/paracetamol/acetominophen
An overdose of Tylenol has a probability of ~5% or less of killing you. That is an incredibly low chance. If you succeed, odds are it will be slowly over the course of days to weeks, or even months, as your liver slowly shuts down. This would be an excruciatingly painful death. Liver failure causes your skin to turn yellow, nausea, vomiting, severe abdominal pain, fowl smelling pale stools, and even the potential for massive esophageal bleeding. More than likely, however, you will throw up for several hours before returning back to baseline over the next few days. If you do seek medical care, you will be given the reversal drug and then sent to the psych ward after being medically stabilized.

Other over the counter medications
While over the counter availability differs from country to country, the rule remains that if it can be purchased without a prescription, it is not a method. These medications have been deemed safe enough by your country's government through rigorous testing that they feel confident giving free access to them. This means that the odds of you being able to overdose on it are very low. Once again, less than 10%, though the exact statistic will vary from drug to drug. Generally, no matter what medication you chose, the answer will be waking up in your vomit feeling like you're more hung over than ever. Things such as ibuprofen or other NSAIDs will do nothing but make you vomit. The amount that you would have to take in order to reach toxic levels is high enough that you will throw up before your body gets to that point. If you manage to reach lethal levels, it will be painful and slow, often resulting in severe abdominal pain, seizures and other neurological symptoms. Your kidneys will work overtime to flush it out of your system and you have a very high chance of waking up in a pool of your own vomit. Benadryl (diphenhydramine) is another common overdose (this is over the counter in the US, though I know it is prescription in other countries, however the consensus stands) that results in severe hallucinations. These are often described by people who have survived as absolutely terrifying. Following that is likely seizures and coma, however the odds of it being lethal are not in your favor, especially if medical attention is given. It has the potential to cause cardiac side effects, however all of this considered, the fatality rates are considered low, the highest death rate I was able to find was 14%, however this varies from source to source.

Prescription medications
This method has a lot more nuance to it, as certain prescriptions have a high likelihood of lethality when taken in the right doses, while others have next to 0 chance. Generally, most prescriptions have a low chance of killing you. Psychiatric medications are the most discussed on this forum, and are also on the lower end of having any shot at killing you. Antidepressants vary in chance of killing you, though even the most toxic (tricyclics) have only about a 14% chance, not a very good statistic. At worst, certain antidepressants have only a 0.5% chance. Other medications, such as those taken for chronic conditions, vary wildly, however the list of those with a high chance of killing you is significantly shorter than the ones with little or moderate chance. Obviously it would be far too tedious to go and list off all of them.

Cutting
This method is often sought out by people who have seen it in movies or TV shows. It should not be considered a method, as it is only in these shows to play it up for the movies. With a success rate of ~1-4%, the odds are the opposite of in your favor. While they make it seem like you can take a razor blade to the wrist and peacefully slip into unconsciousness in the bathtub, in reality it is nothing like that. The human body is wired to not be able to harm itself in this way. In order to die from blood loss you would have to cut an artery. The arteries are meticulously located beneath several layer of muscle, tendons, and other tissues. They are not meant to be cut, especially not on purpose. Even with wonderful understanding of anatomy, such as healthcare workers, you would have a very, very poor chance of reaching them unless you were in a state of psychosis. If you attempted to, you would find yourself halfway there before realizing you mentally and physically cannot get yourself to go any further. Your mind will stop you without you having any control over it. Many people argue that if they get drunk or high beforehand they will be able to overcome it, however this would impair your ability to properly locate and cut to the arteries. The biggest risk with this method is permanent nerve damage to whatever area you attempt to cut. Depending on how deep you get before aborting, you may end up with severe scarring and potentially anemia or other blood loss related conditions.

VSED (voluntarily stopping eating and drinking)
This method is often sought out by people who hear about it use in terminally ill patients on hospice. These patients are under the care of medical professionals who are prescribing them heavy sedatives and pain killers to ensure that they are in as little distress as possible, as well as likely in the late stages of dying in which thirst and hunger cues are lost. It is also rarely done in people who have reached extreme states of spiritual enlightenment. In general, someone who does not meet either of these criteria will not be able to succeed in VSED. There are currently 0 confirmed cases of this on this site, despite many, many attempts, myself included. While people are under the impression that consuming absolutely no food or fluids will kill you within 3 days max, that is a myth. The body has the potential to make it much longer on absolutely nothing. As you get further and further into dehydration and electrolyte imbalances, your mental state will begin to suffer. Your body will go to extreme lengths to get some sort of fuel. If you have any access to food or water, you will eventually be overcome with an ravenous, primitive desire to eat and drink anything in your path. You will eventually cave. And will then have put yourself through days and days of this for nothing.

I confirm that Ibuprofen and Acetaminophen (tylenol) is painfully slow, I made an attempt couple weeks ago, I wasn't able to vomit it out but I started having pain so I just knew it's not gonna work. Cutting is also hard to do, I was gonna cut, overdose, and knock myself out. My brain couldn't make me cut myself, only easy thing was to take a bunch of pills.

 

[ToTheEgress]

I made a thread about killing yourself with a humble 9-volt battery, but is this method too good to be true?

 

[restlesseyes]

Yeah I agree with the prescription drugs I tried Xanax 30 mg one time and 60 0.5mgs along with pint of alcohol both times and just ended up in psych ward

 

[Magi129]

Thank you. When not thinking clear, if someone is in state of psychosis, etc., and have not had this information before, it is easy not to remember what is not effective. Delusions can also be that very small things are going to kill you.

 

[thankyouforthissite]

mod note: this has been added to the suicide resource compilation at the top.

This has been made in response to the ever increasing amount of posts made about highly unlikely methods. Please read before posting about one of these methods or feel free to link if someone does post about them.

This thread is meant to prevent people from trying methods that are almost certain to not kill them but likely to cause harm, whether temporary or permanent. Any method listed in this thread should not be attempted by anyone, and should not be considered a method. I do not give advice on methods that will kill you, as it goes against my personal beliefs, so I will not be responding to any questions asking about them. This has been made for harm reduction to prevent people from ending up in a worse off situation.

Tylenol/paracetamol/acetominophen
An overdose of Tylenol has a probability of ~5% or less of killing you. That is an incredibly low chance. If you succeed, odds are it will be slowly over the course of days to weeks, or even months, as your liver slowly shuts down. This would be an excruciatingly painful death. Liver failure causes your skin to turn yellow, nausea, vomiting, severe abdominal pain, fowl smelling pale stools, and even the potential for massive esophageal bleeding. More than likely, however, you will throw up for several hours before returning back to baseline over the next few days. If you do seek medical care, you will be given the reversal drug and then sent to the psych ward after being medically stabilized.

Other over the counter medications
While over the counter availability differs from country to country, the rule remains that if it can be purchased without a prescription, it is not a method. These medications have been deemed safe enough by your country's government through rigorous testing that they feel confident giving free access to them. This means that the odds of you being able to overdose on it are very low. Once again, less than 10%, though the exact statistic will vary from drug to drug. Generally, no matter what medication you chose, the answer will be waking up in your vomit feeling like you're more hung over than ever. Things such as ibuprofen or other NSAIDs will do nothing but make you vomit. The amount that you would have to take in order to reach toxic levels is high enough that you will throw up before your body gets to that point. If you manage to reach lethal levels, it will be painful and slow, often resulting in severe abdominal pain, seizures and other neurological symptoms. Your kidneys will work overtime to flush it out of your system and you have a very high chance of waking up in a pool of your own vomit. Benadryl (diphenhydramine) is another common overdose (this is over the counter in the US, though I know it is prescription in other countries, however the consensus stands) that results in severe hallucinations. These are often described by people who have survived as absolutely terrifying. Following that is likely seizures and coma, however the odds of it being lethal are not in your favor, especially if medical attention is given. It has the potential to cause cardiac side effects, however all of this considered, the fatality rates are considered low, the highest death rate I was able to find was 14%, however this varies from source to source.

Prescription medications
This method has a lot more nuance to it, as certain prescriptions have a high likelihood of lethality when taken in the right doses, while others have next to 0 chance. Generally, most prescriptions have a low chance of killing you. Psychiatric medications are the most discussed on this forum, and are also on the lower end of having any shot at killing you. Antidepressants vary in chance of killing you, though even the most toxic (tricyclics) have only about a 14% chance, not a very good statistic. At worst, certain antidepressants have only a 0.5% chance. Other medications, such as those taken for chronic conditions, vary wildly, however the list of those with a high chance of killing you is significantly shorter than the ones with little or moderate chance. Obviously it would be far too tedious to go and list off all of them.

Cutting
This method is often sought out by people who have seen it in movies or TV shows. It should not be considered a method, as it is only in these shows to play it up for the movies. With a success rate of ~1-4%, the odds are the opposite of in your favor. While they make it seem like you can take a razor blade to the wrist and peacefully slip into unconsciousness in the bathtub, in reality it is nothing like that. The human body is wired to not be able to harm itself in this way. In order to die from blood loss you would have to cut an artery. The arteries are meticulously located beneath several layer of muscle, tendons, and other tissues. They are not meant to be cut, especially not on purpose. Even with wonderful understanding of anatomy, such as healthcare workers, you would have a very, very poor chance of reaching them unless you were in a state of psychosis. If you attempted to, you would find yourself halfway there before realizing you mentally and physically cannot get yourself to go any further. Your mind will stop you without you having any control over it. Many people argue that if they get drunk or high beforehand they will be able to overcome it, however this would impair your ability to properly locate and cut to the arteries. The biggest risk with this method is permanent nerve damage to whatever area you attempt to cut. Depending on how deep you get before aborting, you may end up with severe scarring and potentially anemia or other blood loss related conditions.

VSED (voluntarily stopping eating and drinking)
This method is often sought out by people who hear about it use in terminally ill patients on hospice. These patients are under the care of medical professionals who are prescribing them heavy sedatives and pain killers to ensure that they are in as little distress as possible, as well as likely in the late stages of dying in which thirst and hunger cues are lost. It is also rarely done in people who have reached extreme states of spiritual enlightenment. In general, someone who does not meet either of these criteria will not be able to succeed in VSED. There are currently 0 confirmed cases of this on this site, despite many, many attempts, myself included. While people are under the impression that consuming absolutely no food or fluids will kill you within 3 days max, that is a myth. The body has the potential to make it much longer on absolutely nothing. As you get further and further into dehydration and electrolyte imbalances, your mental state will begin to suffer. Your body will go to extreme lengths to get some sort of fuel. If you have any access to food or water, you will eventually be overcome with an ravenous, primitive desire to eat and drink anything in your path. You will eventually cave. And will then have put yourself through days and days of this for nothing.

Is there a reliable and painless method?

 

[Turtle Power]

Is there a reliable and painless method?

This seems to be the most reliable:

Stability of SN and N

I'd like to preface this to hopefully help people not make rash decisions due to the fear that their suicide method will go "bad" and they feel forced to take it before they truly want to. Freedom of choice means everything. There is a lot of misconception on here about how long both of these...

sanctionedsuicide.site

 

[DZLWZL]

Many years ago I tried to do some harm to myself with 2.5 bottles of extra strength acetamino and it was the worst most awful pain and vomiting up coffee ground looking blood.. and straight to the hospital where i turned yellow and they had to pump my liver, extremely awful do not do that

 

[MsifuentesX22]

This is a good information. Thanks.

 

[sadalways]

Apple Seeds/Cherry Pits
The quantity of cyanide in these are quite low and can vary so it would be quite difficult to extract enough cyanide to kill you.

You know, i spent a good few hours last night researching this on google, including in this forum. Would this like, REALLY not work? At all? Apple seeds i can understand, way too many of them are needed. I saw a video of someone crushing up these cherry pits though and they tested positive with two pits for cyanide with a test strip after adding liquid to them. What if you eat like idk 50 cherries, and then blend/crush these cherry pits in some way? Maybe this is completely stupid, i'm not a professional or anything when it comes to chemistry or whatever, but i'm really really curious.

 

[ladylazarus4]

You know, i spent a good few hours last night researching this on google, including in this forum. Would this like, REALLY not work? At all? Apple seeds i can understand, way too many of them are needed. I saw a video of someone crushing up these cherry pits though and they tested positive with two pits for cyanide with a test strip after adding liquid to them. What if you eat like idk 50 cherries, and then blend/crush these cherry pits in some way? Maybe this is completely stupid, i'm not a professional or anything when it comes to chemistry or whatever, but i'm really really curious.

I'm not sure to be honest, I didn't do much research. This might be one like yew seeds (or even visine), where it certainly could kill you but is unreliable enough to be a "non-method." I'm also pretty sure each seed doesn't have a reliable amount of cyanide in it, so I'd think you'd need a lot. But again, I don't know too much about it.

 

[Somewhere else]

I don't know how to start this post, but I am desperate to end my life. Let me be clear, that I am of sound mind but I really have come to the conclusion that I want to die. I have attempted suicide before but survived, two times. I am more scared of getting it wrong and overdosing on something that doesn't work (which is why I'm replying to this post) than actually succeeding. Violent methods don't appeal to me, and I don't think I could do it. Are there any ways, any pills, any medications that could work well?

 

[29Forever]

The whole starvation and dehydration thing Is absolutely brutal, never try that

 

[iamrealandyouarenot]

mod note: this has been added to the suicide resource compilation at the top.

This has been made in response to the ever increasing amount of posts made about highly unlikely methods. Please read before posting about one of these methods or feel free to link if someone does post about them.

This thread is meant to prevent people from trying methods that are almost certain to not kill them but likely to cause harm, whether temporary or permanent. Any method listed in this thread should not be attempted by anyone, and should not be considered a method. I do not give advice on methods that will kill you, as it goes against my personal beliefs, so I will not be responding to any questions asking about them. This has been made for harm reduction to prevent people from ending up in a worse off situation.

Tylenol/paracetamol/acetominophen
An overdose of Tylenol has a probability of ~5% or less of killing you. That is an incredibly low chance. If you succeed, odds are it will be slowly over the course of days to weeks, or even months, as your liver slowly shuts down. This would be an excruciatingly painful death. Liver failure causes your skin to turn yellow, nausea, vomiting, severe abdominal pain, fowl smelling pale stools, and even the potential for massive esophageal bleeding. More than likely, however, you will throw up for several hours before returning back to baseline over the next few days. If you do seek medical care, you will be given the reversal drug and then sent to the psych ward after being medically stabilized.

Other over the counter medications
While over the counter availability differs from country to country, the rule remains that if it can be purchased without a prescription, it is not a method. These medications have been deemed safe enough by your country's government through rigorous testing that they feel confident giving free access to them. This means that the odds of you being able to overdose on it are very low. Once again, less than 10%, though the exact statistic will vary from drug to drug. Generally, no matter what medication you chose, the answer will be waking up in your vomit feeling like you're more hung over than ever. Things such as ibuprofen or other NSAIDs will do nothing but make you vomit. The amount that you would have to take in order to reach toxic levels is high enough that you will throw up before your body gets to that point. If you manage to reach lethal levels, it will be painful and slow, often resulting in severe abdominal pain, seizures and other neurological symptoms. Your kidneys will work overtime to flush it out of your system and you have a very high chance of waking up in a pool of your own vomit. Benadryl (diphenhydramine) is another common overdose (this is over the counter in the US, though I know it is prescription in other countries, however the consensus stands) that results in severe hallucinations. These are often described by people who have survived as absolutely terrifying. Following that is likely seizures and coma, however the odds of it being lethal are not in your favor, especially if medical attention is given. It has the potential to cause cardiac side effects, however all of this considered, the fatality rates are considered low, the highest death rate I was able to find was 14%, however this varies from source to source.

Prescription medications
This method has a lot more nuance to it, as certain prescriptions have a high likelihood of lethality when taken in the right doses, while others have next to 0 chance. Generally, most prescriptions have a low chance of killing you. Psychiatric medications are the most discussed on this forum, and are also on the lower end of having any shot at killing you. Antidepressants vary in chance of killing you, though even the most toxic (tricyclics) have only about a 14% chance, not a very good statistic. At worst, certain antidepressants have only a 0.5% chance. Other medications, such as those taken for chronic conditions, vary wildly, however the list of those with a high chance of killing you is significantly shorter than the ones with little or moderate chance. Obviously it would be far too tedious to go and list off all of them.

Cutting
This method is often sought out by people who have seen it in movies or TV shows. It should not be considered a method, as it is only in these shows to play it up for the movies. With a success rate of ~1-4%, the odds are the opposite of in your favor. While they make it seem like you can take a razor blade to the wrist and peacefully slip into unconsciousness in the bathtub, in reality it is nothing like that. The human body is wired to not be able to harm itself in this way. In order to die from blood loss you would have to cut an artery. The arteries are meticulously located beneath several layer of muscle, tendons, and other tissues. They are not meant to be cut, especially not on purpose. Even with wonderful understanding of anatomy, such as healthcare workers, you would have a very, very poor chance of reaching them unless you were in a state of psychosis. If you attempted to, you would find yourself halfway there before realizing you mentally and physically cannot get yourself to go any further. Your mind will stop you without you having any control over it. Many people argue that if they get drunk or high beforehand they will be able to overcome it, however this would impair your ability to properly locate and cut to the arteries. The biggest risk with this method is permanent nerve damage to whatever area you attempt to cut. Depending on how deep you get before aborting, you may end up with severe scarring and potentially anemia or other blood loss related conditions.

VSED (voluntarily stopping eating and drinking)
This method is often sought out by people who hear about it use in terminally ill patients on hospice. These patients are under the care of medical professionals who are prescribing them heavy sedatives and pain killers to ensure that they are in as little distress as possible, as well as likely in the late stages of dying in which thirst and hunger cues are lost. It is also rarely done in people who have reached extreme states of spiritual enlightenment. In general, someone who does not meet either of these criteria will not be able to succeed in VSED. There are currently 0 confirmed cases of this on this site, despite many, many attempts, myself included. While people are under the impression that consuming absolutely no food or fluids will kill you within 3 days max, that is a myth. The body has the potential to make it much longer on absolutely nothing. As you get further and further into dehydration and electrolyte imbalances, your mental state will begin to suffer. Your body will go to extreme lengths to get some sort of fuel. If you have any access to food or water, you will eventually be overcome with an ravenous, primitive desire to eat and drink anything in your path. You will eventually cave. And will then have put yourself through days and days of this for nothing.

Thank you for posting. I did not know that cutting only has a 1-4% chance of success and was my primary method when I consider suicide.

 

[DarknessWave]

Thanks for posting this.

 

[Fraggle77]

How reliable is water intoxication as a means to ctb? What would be the amount needed?
Also drinking anti freeze? How reliable is that?

 

[Solaris1234]

Thank you Willitpass for this post. I think its great you are posting this because the methods you described are not effective, but can still lead to a lot of misery. This way you can hopefully prevent some people from doing that.

In terms of an effective method according to my research full suspension hanging works best, as long as you are uninterrupted for 30 min, and have a strong rope and anchor point.

I will say that CO poisoning was my initial method of choice but after reading about it a lot I am getting the impression there are many things that can go wrong.

Some other things that seem to me quite at risk of not succeeding (but with lasting condition afterwards) are:
- Jumping off below 50 metres (if you land on your feet you could survive)
- Freezing (you lose fingers, toes, even some limbs, but could be found or just survive)

Co poisoning was horrible. For some reason there was an odor, and I instantly felt that horrible heart racing thing. Pills never work out. Came close once, but it was so horrifically painful I called ems and ended up in ICU. Hallucinations were the worst part, they were horrifying. Cutting is useless unless you want help. Dehydration and starvation lasts about two days tops before survival mech kicks in and you eat the entire fridge.
Freezing was the closest I've come. It was peaceful after the shivering stopped. Went out in a winter storm and got soaking wet in 20 degrees. I was stupid and hit a blunt before and then paranoia set in and I freaked out. Walking back to my house was a feat of survival and rewarming was horrible but surprisingly I felt more alive than ever before. The adrenaline I guess.
I feel hopeless. Don't want it to be painful. Tried hanging and can't tolerate it. I do not want to be here, it is torture but I have no way out

I have a pretty reliable method should I ever decide to catch the train to Willoughby(old Twilight Zone refference)

I have two prescription meds I take for a seizure disorder, one is Phenobarbital. It's a controlled substance, and almost impossible to obtain without a prescription. A one months supply would be 1800mg more than enough to do the job. I doubt I ever will though.

I had that for migraines and it is anything but painless. You feel like you're suffocating. I might have been allergic to it tho bc I'd take my normal dose and feel like my airway was not right.

I have a pretty reliable method should I ever decide to catch the train to Willoughby(old Twilight Zone refference)

I have two prescription meds I take for a seizure disorder, one is Phenobarbital. It's a controlled substance, and almost impossible to obtain without a prescription. A one months supply would be 1800mg more than enough to do the job. I doubt I ever will though.

I had that for migraines and it is anything but painless. You feel like you're suffocating. I might have been allergic to it tho bc I'd take my normal dose and feel like my airway was not right.

 

[EndingItAll]

Thank you for posting this. I almost tried cutting my neck, seen it in lots of horror movies. But after reading this and doing tons of research, it remains to not work for obvious reasons. Its pure cruelty that I am forced to CTB with a gruesome way instead of a peaceful injection.