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Joeydoe

Joeydoe

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Where are the instructions on how to make the single shot coffee pot to make N?
 
jodes2

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You need to be particularly skilled to make N
 
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Molded foundation

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I'd like to know as well!
 
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tosch

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There is a book from Denise Nebgan with the title How to make Nembutal at home. In English
 
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There is a book from Denise Nebgan with the title How to make Nembutal at home. In English
Do you know where to get it from? I'm only finding really spammy places, it's not on Amazon as far as I can tell
 
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tosch

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Have a Look at eedenprotocols.wordpress.com
 
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tosch

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Zuerst Google how to make Nembutal at home. Then i found this site. We needs metallic Natrium, dry Ethanol, Ch4n2o, malonsäure
 
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uerst Google how to make Nembutal at home. Then i found this site. We needs metallic Natrium, dry Ethanol, Ch4n2o, malonsäure
Damn. How are we supposed to get those. Lab stores in the UK are selective about who they sell to, as a minimum you need to have an appropriate business but sometimes they only even sell to schools
 
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tosch

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Right. Metallic Natrium No problem. But the Rest?
 
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Interesting read. Thank you for sharing!
The newsletter is a few years old now. I wonder: if this method had proven to be effective and accessible, I am sure PN would have mentioned it in the PPeH by now, no?
I have no experience with chemistry, but considering how difficult it is for some people (outside of the US mostly) to acquire SN, I find it difficult to imagine how "normal" people would be able to acquire the items needed for this method.

On another note:
Sometimes I wonder if Exit and their projects isn't just another way of spending time with people of your own age, retired professionals who enjoy tinkering with lab equipment, having a pint together, brainstorming, finding meaning in trying to discover a new technique or solution.... But it all sounds very social, more like a hobby club of sorts.
 
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On another note:
Sometimes I wonder if Exit and their projects isn't just another way of spending time with people of your own age, retired professionals who enjoy tinkering with lab equipment, having a pint together, brainstorming, finding meaning in trying to discover a new technique or solution.... But it all sounds very social, more like a hobby club of sorts.
Spot on. Sounds cozy.
 
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tosch

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There is an older thread here, search for Manual nembutal
 
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LaVieEnRose

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Interesting read. Thank you for sharing!
The newsletter is a few years old now. I wonder: if this method had proven to be effective and accessible, I am sure PN would have mentioned it in the PPeH by now, no?
I have no experience with chemistry, but considering how difficult it is for some people (outside of the US mostly) to acquire SN, I find it difficult to imagine how "normal" people would be able to acquire the items needed for this method.

On another note:
Sometimes I wonder if Exit and their projects isn't just another way of spending time with people of your own age, retired professionals who enjoy tinkering with lab equipment, having a pint together, brainstorming, finding meaning in trying to discover a new technique or solution.... But it all sounds very social, more like a hobby club of sorts.
Not every member is actively suicidal, that's for sure.
 
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Sep 6, 2022
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Unless you're Heisenberg, forget about it.
 
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[HNO]

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Aug 21, 2022
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for any homemade barb according to the old version of ppeh which elaborated the topic in the section called 'the peanut project' u need a device for fractional distillation or autoclave. and certain reagents that rather impossible to build from scratch like dehydrated alcohol, di-ethyl malonate, ethyl bromide, precursors for them include cyanides and worst of all precursors is bromine relative to which i've no clue to how to obtain it in enough purity without warning local DEA etc and depending on how substance laws are loose in your region you can still get these. but besides you need to be handy in operation with elaborated equipment like mentioned distiller though autoclave preparation seems pretty
 
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Do you know where to get it from? I'm only finding really spammy places, it's not on Amazon as far as I can tell
There are instructions on the Internet. I can't look right now, but I found them once before. I think you need to use a search engine that doesn't censor.
 
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ImsooDone1N

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Nov 22, 2018
858
I think it's admirable to want to try, but as a chemist I can tell you unless you also have a Bachelors degree or higher in organic synthesis, plus a fully stocked lab, with all the necessary precursors, reagents & solvents, you won't be able to make barbituric acid.. and that's not even the intermediate for pentobarbitone. And you actually would need to start with 5-ethyl-5-phenyl-barbituric acid. Barbituric acid is also known as malonylurea or 6-hydroxyuracil. Those are other names for barbituric acid.

If one was so inclined to attempt a synthesis, i would personally go for fentanyl instead. Tho Dr. Paul Janssen used a much more complicated scheme for his initial synthesis of fentanyl, there is much simpler synthesis for N-Fentanyl. It's known as the Siegfried route & starts with N-Phenyethyl Piperidone (a It's a single reaction vessel work up & essentially is just 6 "basic" steps). Tho the NPP is a list 1 chemical (fentanyl precursor) it can be made easily from either phenethyl bromide or phenethyl tosylate & 4 piperidone, using a simple SN2 mechanism. If you can do that, The rest of the steps should be manageable.
 
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I think it's admirable to want to try, but as a chemist I can tell you unless you also have a Bachelors degree or higher in organic synthesis, plus a fully stocked lab, with all the necessary precursors, reagents & solvents, you won't be able to make barbituric acid.. and that's not even the intermediate for pentobarbitone. And you actually would need to start with 5-ethyl-5-phenyl-barbituric acid. Barbituric acid is also known as malonylurea or 6-hydroxyuracil. Those are other names for barbituric acid.

If one was so inclined to attempt a synthesis, i would personally go for fentanyl instead. Tho Dr. Paul Janssen used a much more complicated scheme for his initial synthesis of fentanyl, there is much simpler synthesis for N-Fentanyl. It's known as the Siegfried route & starts with N-Phenyethyl Piperidone (a It's a single reaction vessel work up & essentially is just 6 "basic" steps). Tho the NPP is a list 1 chemical (fentanyl precursor) it can be made easily from either phenethyl bromide or phenethyl tosylate & 4 piperidone, using a simple SN2 mechanism. If you can do that, The rest of the steps should be manageable.
Omg that sounds complicated. Single shot coffee pot makes it sound so much simpler
 
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randy

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Jan 6, 2023
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I think it's admirable to want to try, but as a chemist I can tell you unless you also have a Bachelors degree or higher in organic synthesis, plus a fully stocked lab, with all the necessary precursors, reagents & solvents, you won't be able to make barbituric acid.. and that's not even the intermediate for pentobarbitone. And you actually would need to start with 5-ethyl-5-phenyl-barbituric acid. Barbituric acid is also known as malonylurea or 6-hydroxyuracil. Those are other names for barbituric acid.

If one was so inclined to attempt a synthesis, i would personally go for fentanyl instead. Tho Dr. Paul Janssen used a much more complicated scheme for his initial synthesis of fentanyl, there is much simpler synthesis for N-Fentanyl. It's known as the Siegfried route & starts with N-Phenyethyl Piperidone (a It's a single reaction vessel work up & essentially is just 6 "basic" steps). Tho the NPP is a list 1 chemical (fentanyl precursor) it can be made easily from either phenethyl bromide or phenethyl tosylate & 4 piperidone, using a simple SN2 mechanism. If you can do that, The rest of the steps should be manageable.
I saw this on reddit. seems like the hard part is drying the solvent and all the refluxing

reddit.com/r/TheeHive/comments/ziljbn/easy_one_pot_synthesis_of_barbiturates_starting/
 
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don't want it

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I don't understand is the coffee kill you or what?
 
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