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Apparently you haven't heard of the "single shot coffee pot method."You need to be particularly skilled to make N
I know I haven't. Do tell?Apparently you haven't heard of the "single shot coffee pot method."
Correct. Do tell :)Apparently you haven't heard of the "single shot coffee pot method."
Interesting. Sounds difficult though. All we need is a how-to manual for dummiesI'd like to hear about it, too. Come on, don't be a bogart and keep it to yourself.
Single Shot Coffee Pot Method
Do you know where to get it from? I'm only finding really spammy places, it's not on Amazon as far as I can tellThere is a book from Denise Nebgan with the title How to make Nembutal at home. In English
Thanks, but it says the website doesn't existHave a Look at eedenprotocols.wordpress.com
Damn. How are we supposed to get those. Lab stores in the UK are selective about who they sell to, as a minimum you need to have an appropriate business but sometimes they only even sell to schoolsuerst Google how to make Nembutal at home. Then i found this site. We needs metallic Natrium, dry Ethanol, Ch4n2o, malonsäure
Spot on. Sounds cozy.On another note:
Sometimes I wonder if Exit and their projects isn't just another way of spending time with people of your own age, retired professionals who enjoy tinkering with lab equipment, having a pint together, brainstorming, finding meaning in trying to discover a new technique or solution.... But it all sounds very social, more like a hobby club of sorts.
Not every member is actively suicidal, that's for sure.Interesting read. Thank you for sharing!
The newsletter is a few years old now. I wonder: if this method had proven to be effective and accessible, I am sure PN would have mentioned it in the PPeH by now, no?
I have no experience with chemistry, but considering how difficult it is for some people (outside of the US mostly) to acquire SN, I find it difficult to imagine how "normal" people would be able to acquire the items needed for this method.
On another note:
Sometimes I wonder if Exit and their projects isn't just another way of spending time with people of your own age, retired professionals who enjoy tinkering with lab equipment, having a pint together, brainstorming, finding meaning in trying to discover a new technique or solution.... But it all sounds very social, more like a hobby club of sorts.
There are instructions on the Internet. I can't look right now, but I found them once before. I think you need to use a search engine that doesn't censor.Do you know where to get it from? I'm only finding really spammy places, it's not on Amazon as far as I can tell
Omg that sounds complicated. Single shot coffee pot makes it sound so much simplerI think it's admirable to want to try, but as a chemist I can tell you unless you also have a Bachelors degree or higher in organic synthesis, plus a fully stocked lab, with all the necessary precursors, reagents & solvents, you won't be able to make barbituric acid.. and that's not even the intermediate for pentobarbitone. And you actually would need to start with 5-ethyl-5-phenyl-barbituric acid. Barbituric acid is also known as malonylurea or 6-hydroxyuracil. Those are other names for barbituric acid.
If one was so inclined to attempt a synthesis, i would personally go for fentanyl instead. Tho Dr. Paul Janssen used a much more complicated scheme for his initial synthesis of fentanyl, there is much simpler synthesis for N-Fentanyl. It's known as the Siegfried route & starts with N-Phenyethyl Piperidone (a It's a single reaction vessel work up & essentially is just 6 "basic" steps). Tho the NPP is a list 1 chemical (fentanyl precursor) it can be made easily from either phenethyl bromide or phenethyl tosylate & 4 piperidone, using a simple SN2 mechanism. If you can do that, The rest of the steps should be manageable.
I saw this on reddit. seems like the hard part is drying the solvent and all the refluxingI think it's admirable to want to try, but as a chemist I can tell you unless you also have a Bachelors degree or higher in organic synthesis, plus a fully stocked lab, with all the necessary precursors, reagents & solvents, you won't be able to make barbituric acid.. and that's not even the intermediate for pentobarbitone. And you actually would need to start with 5-ethyl-5-phenyl-barbituric acid. Barbituric acid is also known as malonylurea or 6-hydroxyuracil. Those are other names for barbituric acid.
If one was so inclined to attempt a synthesis, i would personally go for fentanyl instead. Tho Dr. Paul Janssen used a much more complicated scheme for his initial synthesis of fentanyl, there is much simpler synthesis for N-Fentanyl. It's known as the Siegfried route & starts with N-Phenyethyl Piperidone (a It's a single reaction vessel work up & essentially is just 6 "basic" steps). Tho the NPP is a list 1 chemical (fentanyl precursor) it can be made easily from either phenethyl bromide or phenethyl tosylate & 4 piperidone, using a simple SN2 mechanism. If you can do that, The rest of the steps should be manageable.