Body bobi
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- May 9, 2023
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Have you really done a test yet? I was thinking of doing another oneAbsolutely. I did a blackout test yesterday and there was no pain except when headbutted a cabinet
Be *very* careful if you test this, the nitrogen works very fast.
Yes, its just like breathing air until you pass outIs nitrogen hypoxia a painless way to die?
Best way next to N, need some planning and equipmentsIs nitrogen hypoxia a painless way to die?
10 is less minimum 15 minutes and to make sure 30 to 40 minutesYes. Inert gases like Nitrogen, Helium, and Argon are colorless, odorless, and they don't react with the body at all. Breathing in any if those inert gases will be like breathing oxygen except you lose consciousness immediately and die pain-free within 5-10 minutes
How did you headbutt, was it because of dizziness?Absolutely. I did a blackout test yesterday and there was no pain except when headbutted a cabinet
Be *very* careful if you test this, the nitrogen works very fast.
10 is less minimum 15 minutes and to make sure 30 to 40 minutes
In quora I saw a answer which said a scuba diver survived 30 minutes without oxygen so that user said 30 to 40 minutes is optimal because no one survived without oxygen more than 30 minutesNope, 10 minutes is not the minimum, is the maximum.
Nobody is gonna survive 30 minutes in a 0% oxygen environment.
The 40 minutes nonsense comes from a bad interpretation of the Dignitas Non-ReBreather mask study, where one subject had issues with the mask's fit/placement in the face and air started to leak into the mask, so she was breating air+helium and took 40 minutes to die. After that happened some absolute morons started to say that "the inert gas method can take 40 minutes to kill" like it is a general rule of the method.
It's optional. Tremors, convulsions, body reflexes... etc are to be expected during death with inert gas but they're very minor. The most important consideration is that your equipment won't be dislodged when you become unconscious.Do we have to strap our hands?
Are you gonna use nitrogen method ?It's optional. Tremors, convulsions, body reflexes... etc are to be expected during death with inert gas but they're very minor. The most important consideration is that your equipment won't be dislodged when you become unconscious.
There is another point that can cause the symptoms mentioned: The possible rebreathing of exhaled air, when you use the exit bag.It's optional. Tremors, convulsions, body reflexes... etc are to be expected during death with inert gas but they're very minor. The most important consideration is that your equipment won't be dislodged when you become unconscious.
In quora I saw a answer which said a scuba diver survived 30 minutes without oxygen
YesAre you gonna use nitrogen method ?
That can be mitigated by using a sufficient flowrate but if I remember the obeservational studies, no participants ever tried to remove the bag while they were unconsious so it's not a huge dealThere is another point that can cause the symptoms mentioned: The possible rebreathing of exhaled air, when you use the exit bag.
I guess I'm pretty ignorant. Right now I'm not eating or drinking - slow process. My 2nd way is charcoal. Where can I obtain nitrogen and how does it work. A nice quick painless death is exactly what I want. Thanks!Absolutely. I did a blackout test yesterday and there was no pain except when headbutted a cabinet
Be *very* careful if you test this, the nitrogen works very fast.
Yes that's the guyChris Lemons? He got zero damage from that incident (not even slight brain damage).
That was probably due to his gas reserve, neuroprotective effects of hypothermia (he was on freezing water and lost the connection with the system that maintained the heat) so his whole body entered in an almost freezed "suspended state", he never breathed pure inert gas like in a CTB (which causes O₂ saturation to plummet extremely fast), was doing a saturation diving which means that he spent 28 days in a pressurized chamber before the immersion saturating his entire body tissues to the gas mixture used in the dive.
A bunch of variables not present in a CTB.
Read inert gas chapter on the PPeH & PPH Essentials, check the Inert gas megathread and the Inert gas setups gallery.Where can I obtain nitrogen and how does it work.
Thank you!!!Read inert gas chapter on the PPeH & PPH Essentials, check the Inert gas megathread and the Inert gas setups gallery.
Yep. Check the "argon not reliable for exit bag" thread by @Obliviate for details.Have you really done a test yet? I was thinking of doing another one
Ok, went thru it, you were pretty lucky---What was your LPM? One test you said 40 LPM and the other test 15 LPM?Yep. Check the "argon not reliable for exit bag" thread by @Obliviate for details.
The first tests where just inflation Tests. The second one was where I blacked out.Ok, went thru it, you were pretty lucky---What was your LPM? One test you said 40 LPM and the other test 15 LPM?
My maximum is 25 LMP on my flowmeter but when I tested it at this level, it broke the OximeterThe first tests where just inflation Tests. The second one was where I blacked out.
I increased flow rate in this one too to speed up inflation, but dialed it down to 15 when I pulled the bag down.
Lucky depends on where one is standing I'm easily satisfied so I only aim for a GCS 3 but it would probably been have not enough gas.
SO, just before you blacked out, you didn't check your Oximeter?The first tests where just inflation Tests. The second one was where I blacked out.
I increased flow rate in this one too to speed up inflation, but dialed it down to 15 when I pulled the bag down.
Lucky depends on where one is standing I'm easily satisfied so I only aim for a GCS 3 but it would probably been have not enough gas.
Perhaps that was another mistake: Speeding up inflation by increasing the flow rate to 40 LPM--Maybe just inflate the bag at 15 LPM like I do, and what Greenberg said to doThe first tests where just inflation Tests. The second one was where I blacked out.
I increased flow rate in this one too to speed up inflation, but dialed it down to 15 when I pulled the bag down.
Lucky depends on where one is standing I'm easily satisfied so I only aim for a GCS 3 but it would probably been have not enough gas.
What do you mean by brake ?My maximum is 25 LMP on my flowmeter but when I tested it at this level, it broke the Oximeter
I think i had I'd attached and it started pinging but I have no clear recollection of what happend. It went very fast.SO, just before you blacked out, you didn't check your Oximeter?
I was a little impatient to be frank. I probably would have passed the time with hyperventilating on the real thing.Maybe just inflate the bag at 15 LPM like I do, and what Greenberg said to do
My spare Oximeter stopped working after I did my test at 25 LPM lol, but I have several othersWhat do you mean by brake ?
I think i had I'd attached and it started pinging but I have no clear recollection of what happend. It went very fast.
I was a little impatient to be frank. I probably would have passed the time with hyperventilating on the real thing.
You said on the other thread that you thought you heard electronic music just before passing out, very interestingWhat do you mean by brake ?
I think i had I'd attached and it started pinging but I have no clear recollection of what happend. It went very fast.
I was a little impatient to be frank. I probably would have passed the time with hyperventilating on the real thing.
Yeah I described improperly. It was flashing lights, green / red like a stroboscope. And it was hissing sounds but they matched the the rythm of the lights.You said on the other thread that you thought you heard electronic music just before passing out, very interesting
Wow ,bizarreYeah I described improperly. It was famlasing lights, green / red like a stroboscope. And it was hissing sounds but they matched the the best of the lights.
Yeah it was pretty wild. Not sure how much brain cells i lost.Wow ,bizarre
Indeed--I always stop my tests well before I pass out, but its still riskyYeah it was pretty wild. Not sure how much brain cells i lost.
But it really is not funny, this could have ended bad.