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NITROGEN GAS WITH EEBD HOOD (INERT GAS METHOD)

before I start this guide, let's be honest this method is expensive (approximately 600 to 800 dollars)and you need minimum 1 -2 months to source the equipments and nitrogen gas cylinder.
My tip for you to do it cheap, purchase the Chinese products from alibaba (This is not a source it is just a website which sells regular products needed for human kind) or you can use any website you want.

Introduction:

Inert gas method is one of the peaceful and painless method to use for ctb. This method uses inert gas like nitrogen in a closed environment using plastic exit bag, eebd hood and scba kit. In this method, we are gonna do nitrogen gas with EEBD hood which is easy to build if you are able to source the right equipments. Nitrogen gas provides a simple, effective, peaceful and painless DIY death from cerebral hypoxia.

Things you need for the setup:

Nitrogen gas cylinder
Regulator with flowmeter
EEBD hood
Extension air hose
Hose ferrule crimping tool (professional connection)
Hose clamps (caveman way connection)
1/4' barb Adapter with matching ferrule
Recliner chair
Wrist and body straps
Water sprayer with soap water
Teflon tape (better to have but I didn't use it anywhere)
Wrench

Things you need for testing:

Dummy head
Oxygen detector

Nitrogen gas cylinder:

This provides the suitable gas source for your method and it can be challenging to source but not impossible. 1 cbm, 40cuft, 1000 liters Nitrogen gas cylinders will work (mine is 2cbm), just make sure you get regular gas flow for approximately 30 minutes which is more than enough for a peaceful death. A gas regulator is needed to control the flow.

You can get the cylinder online or from the supplier depending on the country, give reason like brewing if the supplier ask why you buying the cylinder for.

My cylinder for reference

Click to see My cylinder

Regulator with flowmeter:

Regulator is needed to control the flow of the gas. It is important that regulator with flowmeter is compatible with the gas cylinder you acquired. Cylinders standard differs depending on the country. Please give close attention when you choosing a regulator for your nitrogen gas cylinder.

Fitting types

The following is the list of suitable regulators

USA - type CGA 580
Aus/NZ type 50
UK - type BS341-No3
EU- type DIN 477

The place where I am use type CGA 580

Click to see My regulator

EEBD Hood:

It works exactly like exit bag but more advanced as it comes with a inhale inlet and exhale outlet, it is factory built so chances of failure is less compared to a exit bag, fit perfectly on your neck and carbon dioxide which makes you suffocate exit through the exhale outlet.

Click to see My eebd hood

Breath in value to breath nitrogen

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Exhale valve to exhale out the carbon dioxide

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Extension Air Hose:

EEBD Hood comes with a air hose but it is short, if you want to increase the air hose length you need few meters extension air hose which should be same size as the EEBD air hose, mostly eebd hood air hose is 1/4" inside size 6.3 mm and outside size 13.5mm so you need to buy a extension air hose which match the same size of the eebd air hose

My Eebd hood air hose:

If you check my picture below, you can see my eebd air hose is small so we need to extend it

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Extension air hose:

Below picture is my extension air hose which is same size as the eebd air hose, please make sure you buy the same size hose

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Hose ferrule crimping tool

This tool is needed to attach the ferrule with the air hose to connect the two hoses which are eebd hood hose and extension hose

Ferrule

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Hose ferrule crimping tool available in most of the western countries like Canada, USA, uk and Europe

Click here to see The hose crimping tool

This is my hose ferrule crimping tool, little more advanced and it differs from country to country

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Finished product will look like below image,

After eebd hood and extension hose are crimped using a hose crimping tool

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Please see the below video on how to connect barb and ferrule to the hose with the hose crimping tool



This is a easy way to connect the hose as you don't need any special adapters.

Hose clamps:

Problem with hose clamps is air leak can happen if it is not tight enough but it can be helpful in sealing the air with no problem just make sure there are no leaks.

You can find these in every hardware shop like Home Depot, just make sure you fit it tight on the hose, where ever you wanna connect it doesn't matter

Click to see My hose clamps

See the below video on how to use it on the hose



1/4' barb Adapter with matching ferrule:

This is the one which go in between the eebd hose and extension hose, make sure you buy the right barb for your air hose, mostly it is 1/4" barb and the matching ferrule

IMG 0323





Recliner chair:

Which can keep you inclined and used to maintain the position until you finish the ctb

Click to see My recliner chair


Wrist straps and body straps:

Body strap to hold my body after I become unconscious

Click here to see My body straps

Instead of wrist straps I am going with this one, it tightens the wrist when I put more pressure, I bought 2, 1 for each wrist to make sure my hands don't do anything stupid to stop the process

Click here to see My wrist straps

Water sprayer with soap water:

Soap water is used to check the air leaks, please make sure there are no air leaks to complete the ctb process successfully

Water spray bottle

Click here to see Sprayer bottle

Soap, I specifically choose this one because it is oil free so it is safe to test the leak on gas

Click here to see Soap

If you want more professionals gas leak detector use snoop gas leak detector (I am not using this lol)

click here to see Snoop

See the below video for reference



Teflon tape:

Better to have but I didn't use it anywhere as there was no leaks for me

Wrench:

Buy a adjustable wrench as you need only to tighten your regulator with the nitrogen gas cylinder

Wrench

Click here to see My wrench

Only used to tighten the place I marked in the below image, put some force on it or else air will leak from that part but don't put too much force as it can damage the thread, just make sure there are no leaks from there

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Check the below video for reference



Testing:

Dummy head:


To put the eebd hood because checking on yourself is dangerous and unconsciousness can happen soon

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Oxygen detector:

To detect the amount of oxygen in the air

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The testing process:

Put the EEBD hood over the dummy head, put the oxygen detector inside the EEBD hood, if the oxygen detector goes to 1% reading, your nitrogen setup is good for ctb

You can use the oxygen analyzer to make sure the nitrogen purity is good

Nitrogen gas method death timeline:

Brain demage without oxygen


Diagram representation of EEBD hood method

165189 EEBD hood instructions


My setup:

Please use my setup pictures to build yours and it is not hard to build a eebd hood nitrogen setup, you don't need any special adapters to make the connections work in the eebd hood method, just make sure there are no leaks by using soap water.

This method is highly effective for ctb as it is painless and peaceful, death happens very fast, you become unconscious quicker than any other method available for ctb, death happens quicker than Nembutal.

First you need a nitrogen gas cylinder (debate happening in that some say more than 99% purity is enough, I personally think the purity of nitrogen should be equal to or greater than 99.95%), my nitrogen cylinder is 99.999% purity which is the best you can get but it is super expensive and not readily available as some suppliers will ask for time to deliver.

Connect your gas cylinder to the regulator with the flowmeter (regulator with flowmeter I use is for the argon gas cylinder because nitrogen regulator with flowmeter is hard to find, in most the countries argon regulator with flowmeter have the same cylinder standards as the nitrogen so in my case it works, if it is 15 lpm for nitrogen you should set 12.8 lpm in the argon flowmeter as argon is heavier than nitrogen)

Nitrogen gas cylinder with regulator and flowmeter:

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In the below video, this person connect argon regulator with flowmeter to the argon cylinder but you can do these to your nitrogen cylinder



Then you need a eebd hood with a exhale value through which your exhaled Carbon dioxide will be released, our brain can detect carbon dioxide, warn us with the suffocation but it can't detect when you inhale nitrogen and carbon dioxide is released through the eebd exhale value.

Breathe in

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Exhale out the carbon dioxide

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When you get your eebd hood, it comes as a big package with oxygen cylinder, regulator, manual but you don't need any of these, you need only the eebd hood with the hose. Your eebd hood will be connected to the oxygen regulator, you can't remove it so I have to cut the hose to connect it to the nitrogen gas cylinder.

I attached the below oxygen regulator you will get and marked where I cut the hose of the regulator, please check below

Oxygen regulator which comes with the eebd hood, hose is cut to remove the eebd hood

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After cutting the eebd hose from the regulator this is how it look like, check the below image

We need only this

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After cutting the hose you have two options:

Option 1:
You can connect it directly to the flowmeter with regulator by buying a hose clamps, insert the hose into the flowmeter barb and connect it tight with a hose clamps, just make sure there are no leaks but this works

Eebd hose connected with a hose clamps to the flowmeter barb and no leaks, please refer the below image and video

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Option 2: You can use a extension hose to make the hose longer, I did this because the hose which come with the eebd hood is short for me as it is only 1 meter so I have make it long, for this I used the connecting barb, ferrule and crimping tool

Finish product will look like this, please refer the image below

After eebd hood and extension hose (make sure both hose are same size) are crimped using a hose crimping tool with no leaks, crimping won't be perfect for the first time but as long as there are no leaks you are good to go

IMG 0369


Please refer the below video to learn how to use hose crimping tool



Then you connect the extension hose to the flowmeter with regular using a hose clamps make sure you buy the right size clamps for your hose and no leaks

Extension hose connected with a hose clamps to the flowmeter barb and no leaks, please refer the below image and videos

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Final product will look like this refer the image below, I used no special adapters as you don't need them

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Sit on the recliner chair, put the body straps, Open the cylinder value, set the flowmeter to the right flow, hyperventilate for 1-2 minutes, put the eebd hood on your face, strap your wrists and enjoy the ride!

Process to test the setup:

Before everything make sure there are no leaks, leaks are a huge problem in nitrogen gas setup.

You have to test whether 0% oxygen environment can be achieved in the eebd hood or not, to be successful oxygen level should be less than 1%

You need a dummy head, put the eebd hood on the dummy head, put the oxygen detector inside the eebd hood but make sure you see the readings, finally open the cylinder valve and check the readings, if the oxygen detector reading goes less than 1% your eebd hood setup is good to go

Before testing oxygen detector picture below:

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After switching on the nitrogen gas, it went to zero level and it was fast, no one surviving that lol (this happened at 20lpm within 20sec)

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Check the reading, oxygen level went to zero which mean your setup is working, please refer the below image

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Advantages of Nitrogen gas eebd hood method:

No drugs, no ingestion, No after taste, no fasting, no pain, just feel like breathing oxygen if you have pure nitrogen, death is fast (10-15 minutes), unconscious in 4-5 long breaths, no sound, safer to environment, peace

Disadvantages of this method:

Expensive
Takes time to source the gas cylinder, equipments and setup built
You need to live alone
Purchases can make people suspicious
Make sure no one rescue you, it will end up bad
Need little technical knowledge (But don't worry just follow my process and read this document, everything will be fine)
Leaks are big problem

Finally some people don't like the sound of the air, after putting on the eebd hood, you can use a cheap ear plugs for that

Ear plugs:

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Credits to @GasMonkey @Das Nichts @outrider567 @efilist @blacksand

Hi Vizzy,
I'm wondering what store you got your eebd hood from? An online store? You're in the US, right? I can't find it online.
 
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People who had inert gas Asphyxiation as their preferred method would instantly drop the idea after reading through this. This is like doing a full fledged Engineering project. Not for suicidal people. I firmly believe it's way more easier than this. A couple of instances of helium suicides in India were achieved with very minimal set up as per the news article.
 
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People who had inert gas Asphyxiation as their preferred method would instantly drop the idea after reading through this. This is like doing a full fledged Engineering project. Not for suicidal people. I firmly believe it's way more easier than this. A couple of instances of helium suicides in India were achieved with very minimal set up as per the news article.
i find the OP extended hose connection overcomplicated, i prefer the style shown in this thread below

 
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ClownWorld2023

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Sep 18, 2023
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People who had inert gas Asphyxiation as their preferred method would instantly drop the idea after reading through this. This is like doing a full fledged Engineering project. Not for suicidal people. I firmly believe it's way more easier than this. A couple of instances of helium suicides in India were achieved with very minimal set up as per the news article.

Vizzy's guide makes it seem much more complicated than it really is, but it's actually quite easy.

The setup is the same as the exit bag method, but instead of an exit bag you use an EEBD hood.

The gas hose of the EEBD hood just needs to be modified, which was easier than I thought it was.
 
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outrider567

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Hi Vizzy,
I'm wondering what store you got your eebd hood from? An online store? You're in the US, right? I can't find it online.
Vizzy killed himself last year in Thailand
 
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indocanda

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Jul 24, 2023
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My eebd is on the way in transit. Two question's now
- Is 40cuft nitrogen cylinder enough for CTB? (I don't how heavy this one is, i can go with bigger cylinder but am lil worried about weight as am not that strong to carry it)
- Is 15lpm setting right on nitrogen regulator for CTB? (am looking online to order "NITROGEN CLICK STYLE REGULATOR CGA 580" this one comes in following variants;
  • 0-15 LPM model click settings (0, 1/2, 1, 1 1/2, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 10, 15)
  • 0-25 LPM model click settings (0, 1/2, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 10, 15, 25)
Which one i need to buy?
 
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ClownWorld2023

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Sep 18, 2023
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My eebd is on the way in transit. Two question's now
- Is 40cuft nitrogen cylinder enough for CTB? (I don't how heavy this one is, i can go with bigger cylinder but am lil worried about weight as am not that strong to carry it)
- Is 15lpm setting right on nitrogen regulator for CTB? (am looking online to order "NITROGEN CLICK STYLE REGULATOR CGA 580" this one comes in following variants;
  • 0-15 LPM model click settings (0, 1/2, 1, 1 1/2, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 10, 15)
  • 0-25 LPM model click settings (0, 1/2, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 10, 15, 25)
Which one i need to buy?
I recommend the 0-25 LPM model, as 15 LPM may not be enough depending on the person and setup used.
You can always set it to higher than 15 LPM if it's not enough, or just leave it at 15 LPM.
 
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indocanda

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I recommend the 0-25 LPM model, as 15 LPM may not be enough depending on the person and setup used.
You can always set it to higher than 15 LPM if it's not enough, or just leave it at 15 LPM.
So for higher lpm i need bigger cylinder too right? Or is with higher lpm ctb is fast and do not need big cylinder?
 
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ClownWorld2023

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Sep 18, 2023
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So for higher lpm i need bigger cylinder too right? Or is with higher lpm ctb is fast and do not need big cylinder?

A higher flow rate will consume more gas, so you'll indeed need a cylinder with more gas.

But I only advised to get that regulator incase you need a higher flow rate.
You can always set it to 15 LPM if that turns out to be good enough.
That's up to your own discretion.
 
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outrider567

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So for higher lpm i need bigger cylinder too right? Or is with higher lpm ctb is fast and do not need big cylinder?
Your 40 cuft tank is still about 1150 Liters of Nitrogen, I believe--You do not need a bigger cyclinder at 25 LPM rate--At 25 LPM, that's 46 minutes, way more than enough to CTB
 
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indocanda

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Your 40 cuft tank is still about 1150 Liters of Nitrogen, I believe--You do not need a bigger cyclinder at 25 LPM rate--At 25 LPM, that's 46 minutes, way more than enough to CTB
How long basically it takes to ctb once i put the eebd hood on my face?
 
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indocanda

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Jul 24, 2023
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I found Nitrogen Click Style Regulator CGA580 0-25L on alibaba
Similar to as in following picture
View attachment 146906
My question is "can i buy from there or are they low grade or maybe not calibrated properly?
As they a so much cheap then other listed on another sites
 
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k1w1

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I found Nitrogen Click Style Regulator CGA580 0-25L on alibaba
Similar to as in following picture
View attachment 146906
My question is "can i buy from there or are they low grade or maybe not calibrated properly?
As they a so much cheap then other listed on another sites
They are fine. It is a very low tech device with little to go wrong. The quality of some of the masks coming off that site is quite surprising for the low price also. and absolutely go with 25lpm....I needed it in my test.
 
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indocanda

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Jul 24, 2023
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They are fine. It is a very low tech device with little to go wrong. The quality of some of the masks coming off that site is quite surprising for the low price also. and absolutely go with 25lpm....I needed it in my test.
U mean hoods are not of good quality from that site? They listed regulator ta low price but they charged me $90usd with fast shipping and additional $25cad import fee
 
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Chunkus

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Hey @Vizzy this post is one of the main reasons I signed up because I wanted to say a massive thank you! It was a very informative and well explained. I was wondering if I could possibly get some help/advice on the size of tank that's needed, I live in the UK and have found a website that sells helium with the following specs...
  • Purity: 99.996%
  • Grade: 4.6
  • Impurities: H2O <3ppm, O2 <5ppm, N2 <10ppm
I'm assuming that would be ok? But where I'm getting confused is the size of their tanks for example one says...
20L (200 bar) which I thought was a 20 litre tank but then it says next to it VOLUME: 3.61mĀ³ which would be 3610 litres???
I've never delt with any type of gas tanks, I'm absolutely clueless so any advice would be greatly appreciated

Many thanks

Chunk
 
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Hey @Vizzy this post is one of the main reasons I signed up because I wanted to say a massive thank you! It was a very informative and well explained. I was wondering if I could possibly get some help/advice on the size of tank that's needed, I live in the UK and have found a website that sells helium with the following specs...
  • Purity: 99.996%
  • Grade: 4.6
  • Impurities: H2O <3ppm, O2 <5ppm, N2 <10ppm
I'm assuming that would be ok? But where I'm getting confused is the size of their tanks for example one says...
20L (200 bar) which I thought was a 20 litre tank but then it says next to it VOLUME: 3.61mĀ³ which would be 3610 litres???
I've never delt with any type of gas tanks, I'm absolutely clueless so any advice would be greatly appreciated

Many thanks

Chunk
Hey Chunkus, Vizzy CTB a while back so your questions may get better responses on the mega-thread, despite it saying exit-bag people have still discussed other techniques as well.

 
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Chunkus

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Thank you so much for the reply will make a post over there
 
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Hey @Vizzy this post is one of the main reasons I signed up because I wanted to say a massive thank you! It was a very informative and well explained. I was wondering if I could possibly get some help/advice on the size of tank that's needed, I live in the UK and have found a website that sells helium with the following specs...
  • Purity: 99.996%
  • Grade: 4.6
  • Impurities: H2O <3ppm, O2 <5ppm, N2 <10ppm
I'm assuming that would be ok? But where I'm getting confused is the size of their tanks for example one says...
20L (200 bar) which I thought was a 20 litre tank but then it says next to it VOLUME: 3.61mĀ³ which would be 3610 litres???
I've never delt with any type of gas tanks, I'm absolutely clueless so any advice would be greatly appreciated

Many thanks

Chunk
Welcome to the site. Vizzy is no longer with us FYI; they got their peace & serenity last year in Thailand. They left us with an incredible wealth of information though!

In response to your question, I believe that is because it is giving the tank's water volume rather than the compressed gas amount. The UK and Europe do that, as compared to the US which gives the liter size to refer to the compressed air volume, so it can be confusing for sure depending on where someone is located or how the distributor is advertising it. This volume would be more than sufficient, providing hours of flow regardless if you set the flow to 15/20/25lpm and would have enough to safely test it as well. The company you found also has a 10L option (on their website anways), though I'm unsure about the availability or pricing for either size. Would be pretty heavy too.

That high quality and purity helium can be challenging to source due to its limited supply, but if you can find it and it's within your budget, it would be a great choice. Given that it's from a reputable gas supplier, I trust the stated purity, but running a test could be worthwhile. It's also worth noting that some companies might not have updated their websites regarding changes in product quality or purity, so verifying that information could be beneficial.

If helium doesn't work out, nitrogen could be a more readily available alternative. Argon is another option, though nitrogen may be more popular since it's lighter than oxygen and would sit at the top of an exit bag, assuming that's the method being used. I'm not very familiar with access to inert gases in the UK, but in the USA, welding supply stores typically have these tanks readily available and would guess there should be welding companies in the UK that sell to individuals (some might charge a 'deposit' though aka paperwork). Buying the filled tank outright would be a far, far better option obviously.

Hope that helps for now, and perhaps someone on the inert gas/exit bag megathread may be answer any other questions you might have with great detail or information.

With whatever you decide, I hope you find everything you are looking for and get peace & serenity.
 
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Thank you so so much for the replay @athiestjoe it really is very much appreciated. I have made a post in the mega thread now šŸ‘
 

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