new report of a case of fatal ingesting SN, Despite receiving emergency treatment

[freelifexit]

a CT head revealed extensive hypoxic brain injury

SN is not neuroprotective, here is proof

 

[FromGermany]

"Two days later brain death was confirmed on brainstem testing."
"Prior to transfer to intensive care, a CT head revealed extensive hypoxic brain injury."

Two days, that is a very long time.
She was very lucky, that she died.
If not, then a brain damage and living with that would be the result as with other failures with other methods.

This case should be a warning to everybody, who still believes, SN is easy, painless and without any risks.

That it is not painless, not easy and with a failure rate, I knew already before, but this case including a brain damage is really bad and should be part of more investigations.

 

[Fadeawaaaay]

They have it in pill form. I went through that article and translated it. They reported the patient was too weak to get to the door when the rescuers came so they broke down the door. They arrived 12 minutes after she called them. She was still conscious at the hospital, had a brain CT scan, then her heart stopped. It's very sad, and seeing her pictures increases the sadness.

She seemed to be full of life. Sad.

 

[Samsara]

*man

Oops, did I get that wrong? thank you for the correction

 

[PassingThrough]

I don't know if there are restrictions imposed on those who access this article from certain regions, but beyond a little prompt encouraging me to subscribe to the paper, I was able to access and read the article in its entirety without having to pay a £60 subscription fee. I haven't any idea where in the article it says Marjolein took SN pills, because one paragraph in particular stood out to me and I've included the original Dutch in the event that the machine translation failed somewhere:

Original Dutch: "De werking van Middel X is onomkeerbaar. Er is voor zover bekend geen tegengif. De stof legt de energie- en zuurstofvoorziening in de lichaamscellen vrijwel meteen stil. Wie voldoende binnenkrijgt, gaat bijna zeker dood."​

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English Translation via Google Translate: "The action of Agent [Middel] X is irreversible. There is no known antidote to it. The substance stops the energy and oxygen supply in the body cells almost immediately. Anyone who takes in enough will almost certainly die."​

Marjolein is said to have taken a substance called "Middel X" to end her life and while the mechanism of action appears to be similar to that of SN, it was not what was contained in those pills. Middel X is instead thought to have been SA. For one, SN--ironically used in the clinical setting as an antidote for Cyanide poisoning--and the severe methemoglobinemia that follows ingestion can be treated with the antidote methylene blue. Second, the lethal dose of SA, as per Philip Nitschke, is about 2g, a dose that is considerably more reasonable to be taken in pill form than the currently suggested 25g for SN. There are a few threads on the forum that deal with using pill capsules to take SN and dodge the unpleasant flavour but it was found that the size and number of pills required make that method of delivery rather cumbersome.

Strange how this "Middel X" is always mentioned to be in pill form. No one in the world is selling SA in pills, because there is no good reason whatsoever (except suicide) for a person to ingest SA.

 

[miserableforever]

God loves a trier!!!!!! they tried to save them but they couldn't ,sounds like what a pro-lifer might attempt.

they joined the smurf brigade, despite the valiant efforts of the doctors.and that with them actually going A & E, LEGEND

Don't take SN if you want to go to A & E is the simple moral of this story. then you won't have any issues

She seemed to be wanting help to stay alive..

 

[justsayin]

Strange how this "Middel X" is always mentioned to be in pill form. No one in the world is selling SA in pills, because there is no good reason whatsoever (except suicide) for a person to ingest SA.

News articles about this stuff are full of inaccuracies. Some are intentional, some are not.

 

[Tesha]

I translated the whole article and it said pills. There was some organization they have in that country that gives out the SN, so either they have a way of putting it into pills, or capsules, or the article or translation was wrong.

You can buy pill presses on the internet; I often wondered why everyone went down the solution route. Could be an absorption issue I suppose…

 

[PassingThrough]

You can buy pill presses on the internet; I often wondered why everyone went down the solution route. Could be an absorption issue I suppose…

Didn't know pill presses were so easy to acquire and use. Thanks for the info.

I think the liquid form gets absorbed faster, but I didn't really look much into it. There's also the question of how this affects vomiting risk, nausea and other symptoms. I wonder if this organization did some serious research about this questions; maybe they decided to distribute it as pills merely because most people feel more comfortable with that...

 

[PassingThrough]

Actually, now that I think of it, I remember reading that this organization (CLW) bought SA in bulk. I guess they used a pill press to turn into it pills, after which they distributed the pills to members. The fact that they managed to do all this without any legal interference is pretty crazy - if this had happened in the US, the founders/heads of this CLW would probably be arrested just for not being able to explain what the SA is for.