Discussion Nembutal: Why are you still alive?

[FTL.Wanderer]

Alive still because I'm a coward. One more major blow, though...
N is increasingly off the table for me since I want something far faster acting.

 

[GeorgeJL]

Alive still because I'm a coward. One more major blow, though...
N is increasingly off the table for me since I want something far faster acting.

Nitrogen/helium hood kit is probably the fastest your going to get while keeping your dignity. You'll be dead in 10 minutes and it's relatively painless.

 

[FTL.Wanderer]

Nitrogen/helium hood kit is probably the fastest your going to get while keeping your dignity. You'll be dead in 10 minutes and it's relatively painless.

Thank you. Inert gases are near the top of my list.

 

[StGerman]

I still have some hope I must admit, hoping that everything will be fine. And scared about things going wrong eg vomiting panicking

 

[ZiggyStardust]

thank you, found it

 

[GeorgeJL]

Thank you. Inert gases are near the top of my list.

You will need information like this then.

https://archive.is/sZ2Me

You can get the regulator from PPHB website I think. Even though it says you have to be a member I brought some stuff from them without being a member. Also note balloon time helium tanks are now diluted.

 

[FTL.Wanderer]

You will need information like this then.

https://archive.is/sZ2Me

You can get the regulator from PPHB website I think. Even though it says you have to be a member I brought some stuff from them without being a member. Also note balloon time helium tanks are now diluted.

Thank you.

 

[-Link-]

My circumstances (mostly external) are such that I am just not 'there' yet.

This is my go-to method, though, and I like to keep tabs on its availability because it provides me with some reassurance.

 

[Sundayafternoon]

no one has really survived a lethal dosage of N unless medical help intervened

Out of curiosity, if intercepted, what does N brain damage look like? Are you aware or in a coma of sorts?
I'm kinda homeless at the moment. In someone else's house and i don't want to be found.

 

[Jamba]

Alive still because I'm a coward. One more major blow, though...
N is increasingly off the table for me since I want something far faster acting.

Faster acting than N?

Out of curiosity, if intercepted, what does N brain damage look like? Are you aware or in a coma of sorts?
I'm kinda homeless at the moment. In someone else's house and i don't want to be found.

Wish i knew the answer to that as well, but i wouldnt take the risk if you might be found

 

[FTL.Wanderer]

My circumstances (mostly external) are such that I am just not 'there' yet.

This is my go-to method, though, and I like to keep tabs on its availability because it provides me with some reassurance.

Imagine if we all enjoyed the legally guaranteed comfort of knowing a painless, quick end to life is accessible.

Faster acting than N?

Yes, faster than N. I don't want to be conscious between making the last decision & being dead. I want to flip a switch and just not be there after. There's only one way I think I can accomplish that...

 

[locusdelicti]

Many of us have to put our affairs in order, be that something we have to do, getting our finances and legal documents sorted, or perhaps we are waiting for some significant event (graduation of children, death of a parent, etc.). I suspect many people also want to purchase it as insurance before the seemingly ONE reliable source either (a) is caught; or (b) determines the risk is no longer worth it and retires.

 

[dandan]

I already put my legal affairs in order,..... l 8 months ago I was suicidal (again) and told my parents.... we had some legal papers arranged... then the suicidal stage passed... now again... I feel ctb is my best option , damm.....

now I only have 1 bottle of N, I will wait till I get a 2nd one.... and even when I get it... it aint easy!! I tried the Nitrogen Exit Bag.... what a rush having a Plastic Oven Bag over my head... I dont want to do that again....

something easier, painless and faster than N,,, seems ridiculous and shows a lack of research

 

[FTL.Wanderer]

something easier, painless and faster than N,,, seems ridiculous and shows a lack of research

That you feel comfortable maligning others for making such a personal choice about our individual ends, here on a suicide website, is both ironic and disheartening. It's also inaccurate that our personal evaluations "[show] a lack of research." You're entitled to judge for yourself, not for others.

 

[Hotsackage]

Wait we can buy nebutol from SS. Sorry I'm a newbie. Can someone point me where I can browse this merchandise. Tx

 

[dandan]

It's also inaccurate that our personal evaluations "[show] a lack of research."

I have reseached and without judging I can say that there´s no method similar to "hitting the light switch" .

There´s no judgment here, research by profesionals like Dr. Nitsche say N is the fastest , painless, recommended way to go.

Euthanasia is performed with it.

I believe searching for a "light switch" method is fantasising and yes it is allowed. No judgment here. If you find a light switch method please share with us. ( with me specially )

 

[Nitromask]

Wait we can buy nebutol from SS. Sorry I'm a newbie. Can someone point me where I can browse this merchandise. Tx

No, but you can buy from A. Take a look in the peaceful pill handbook

 

[Apollo D. Ryker]

I have the money for N from A, but not to travel somewhere better than where I am. Once I have that, I think I'm out.

 

[GeorgeEastman]

Must be heroic restraint.

I had a decent day today, but if I had any semblance of a suicide method readily available I'd be in the ground in a week for sure.

 

[Noitu x Love]

Control. When they have the option then have the choice to live or die. When they get that say so, they see a glimer or hope. That tint light at the end of the tunnel.

That keeps them pushing. The mind is powerful. Don't underestimate it.

 

[FTL.Wanderer]

I have reseached and without judging I can say that there´s no method similar to "hitting the light switch" .

There´s no judgment here, research by profesionals like Dr. Nitsche say N is the fastest , painless, recommended way to go.

Euthanasia is performed with it.

I believe searching for a "light switch" method is fantasising and yes it is allowed. No judgment here. If you find a light switch method please share with us. ( with me specially )

With respect, there isn't nearly enough research in cognitive neuroscience, especially regarding the experience of death, to be able to formulate a coherent empirical answer to many of the questions individuals seeking self delivery have. "[F]astest" is relative. For a method requiring someone to wait in a partially conscious state while they are becoming unconscious, there is no necessary 1:1 time association between the individual's cognitive perceptions and time as the rest of us measure it. The perception of time may be dilated while the body is dying, for example.

One justifiably disconcerting aspect of so many lay individuals speculating on methods available to us or relying on the professional opinions of a just a few doctors is the imprecision of external judgments of "painless" -- especially when these judgments aren't scientifically rigorous.

I'm not at all trying to influence anyone else's decisions and I have nothing to gain from anyone choosing (or not) any method. But medicine's understanding of the death process is murky and the nearly universal pro-life cultural bias only exacerbates this by discouraging both scientific research and popular discussion. People are justified in their doubts and attempts to amass even more/better data. And while there may not appear to be a clearly "instant" method, the assumption that a fraction-of-a-second destruction of most of the brain or key anatomy (like the brainstem) leads to a nearly instant death is corroborated by a history of surgical and emergency medicine literature.

Not trying to be argumentative. If I ever come upon instant-and-painless, I'd share.

 

[dandan]

had a decent day today, but if I had any semblance of a suicide method readily available I'd be in the ground in a week for sure.

You make it sound so easy ...
I envy that... But why don't you get N and do it? Or the nitrogen tank? Or SN, which is available? Talking is easy....

 

[Broken Widow]

You make it seem that N is some kind of membership perks you get at SS, lol. If only it worked that way.

I suppose if I did have N, and didn't take it right away, it would just be good to know that I have that option, and that in and of itself might give me enough comfort to stop being so anxious and depressed all the time. I also have stuff I have to do before I leave. Maybe that's why people who possess N don't take it right away?

Peaceful Pill eHandbook (May-2018):
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1-2NX0jVOjCrOJycMsy3KLXHMSGL3MSnV

Read the Nembutal chapter

is there a reason why the whole file won't load? Like I'll click on a chapter and then it only shows the first page, then I get an error message saying the rest of it didn't load.

 

[JJ-NOHOPE]

I acquired N from A a couple of months ago. I can't tell you how relieved I am to have it available if/when I will need it.

I don't feel as desperate to find an escape from this life. I have my escape safely hidden in the closet and no one in my life knows anything about it.

I am able to look at my life a little more realistically and work on some of the major trauma that I have experienced.

I am less scared and anxious now that I have my N.

I know that it works because I bought extra and have sampled it. It has an incredibly horrible chemical taste that is extremely hard to get out of your mouth and lips. I think honey is a good idea and will try it next time. I passed out about 5 minutes after taking about 5-6 ml I think. But I didn't sleep for very long, only about 4-5 hours. But I have incredibly bad insomnia.

 

[Nitromask]

is there a reason why the whole file won't load? Like I'll click on a chapter and then it only shows the first page, then I get an error message saying the rest of it didn't load.

I have no idea. That link works for me, and opens on the Google Drive app on my phone

It has an incredibly horrible chemical taste that is extremely hard to get out of your mouth and lips.

Is it bad enough that you think it'll be difficult to drink enough of it?

 

[JJ-NOHOPE]

Is it bad enough that you think it'll be difficult to drink enough of it?

Yes, it is really gross. The honey might help. I tried chocolate but that was not good enough.
That is just my opinion.
But if you're desperate enough to kill yourself you could probably chug it down.

 

[Arak]

With respect, there isn't nearly enough research in cognitive neuroscience, especially regarding the experience of death, to be able to formulate a coherent empirical answer to many of the questions individuals seeking self delivery have. "[F]astest" is relative. For a method requiring someone to wait in a partially conscious state while they are becoming unconscious, there is no necessary 1:1 time association between the individual's cognitive perceptions and time as the rest of us measure it. The perception of time may be dilated while the body is dying, for example.

One justifiably disconcerting aspect of so many lay individuals speculating on methods available to us or relying on the professional opinions of a just a few doctors is the imprecision of external judgments of "painless" -- especially when these judgments aren't scientifically rigorous.

I'm not at all trying to influence anyone else's decisions and I have nothing to gain from anyone choosing (or not) any method. But medicine's understanding of the death process is murky and the nearly universal pro-life cultural bias only exacerbates this by discouraging both scientific research and popular discussion. People are justified in their doubts and attempts to amass even more/better data. And while there may not appear to be a clearly "instant" method, the assumption that a fraction-of-a-second destruction of most of the brain or key anatomy (like the brainstem) leads to a nearly instant death is corroborated by a history of surgical and emergency medicine literature.

Not trying to be argumentative. If I ever come upon instant-and-painless, I'd share.

If necessary,anti anxiety drug (if it works!) and immediate destruction of the body like jumping or shotgun is pretty much it. It's not for everyone.
I don't see doctors advocating shortguns ...

 

[FTL.Wanderer]

If necessary,anti anxiety drug (if it works!) and immediate destruction of the body like jumping or shotgun is pretty much it. It's not for everyone.
I don't see doctors advocating shortguns ...

I agree with your "if it works!" That's a big problem with so many anecdotal suicide methods. Little precision and so confidence. I also agree with you on the shotgun method. That'll probably be my way.

 

[FTL.Wanderer]

Why not N?

I'm nonplussed that so many people even here react so ... personally to others' judgments about the methods that appeal to them. So I'm not comfortable anymore elaborating on why different methods aren't for me. I just need very, very fast (nearly instant). Good luck to you finding something that makes you feel as good as possible at the end.