Nembutal / Pentobarbital simply impractical?

[Talvikki]

Hello @Soon i will be gone Thanks for the detailed info.
Do you have the source/link that mention the uncerntainty of the use of Dilantin?

I used the PPH 2022 edition as a source (i attached the info bellow). It says that Dilantin is important for the people who have a record of strong use of alcohool (my case) and it can potentiate the effect of N. Since im an alcahoolic im planning to use Dilantin. I also have a record of use of antipsychotics medication/drugs.

Im planninh to drink 200ML of Halatal (Peru) which is around 12 g of N.

Since i already get the Dilantin to mix with N, what do you say? Use it, anyway?

Thanks


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With 12 grams of N, adding Dilantin is unnecessary, even with long-term chronic alcohol use.

A sufficient amount of N is 100% reliable. Even with chronic opioid use (which slows stomach and intestine processes for barbiturate absorption), the average time until death is only a few minutes longer than for those not using opioids.

I know of two people addicted to alcohol who died from 12 grams of N. One of them had been addicted to alcohol for decades and had cirrhosis of the liver. He was worried and asked medical experts if he should add Dilantin. They informed him that adding Dilantin was unnecessary because he already had 12 grams of N, which is a massive overdose on its own.

If you check the PPH (Essentials), you'll notice they removed and changed the advice about using Dilantin (phenytoin) with N.


PPH (old):



PPH Essentials:

 

[LifeIsCrazyNemb]

With 12 grams of N, adding Dilantin is unnecessary, even with long-term chronic alcohol use.

A sufficient amount of N is 100% reliable. Even with chronic opioid use (which slows stomach and intestine processes for barbiturate absorption), the average time until death is only a few minutes longer than for those not using opioids.

I know of two people addicted to alcohol who died from 12 grams of N. One of them had been addicted to alcohol for decades and had cirrhosis of the liver. He was worried and asked medical experts if he should add Dilantin. They informed him that adding Dilantin was unnecessary because he already had 12 grams of N, which is a massive overdose on its own.

If you check the PPH (Essentials), you'll notice they removed and changed the advice about using Dilantin (phenytoin) with N.


PPH (old):
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PPH Essentials:
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Thank you so much for the detailed info. You deserve an anward!

so it's rather safe to bring N with you from Peru without altering the contents, I.E transferring it to another bottle? I have to know before I go to Peru.

What are the best ways to get it with you back to your home country?

I put all bottles in the cargo luggage in its original contents/bottle. I had no problem with customs at all.

 

[Elan123]

N its pretry easy to get in Peru. I got 6 bottles last year, just go and check the PPHH advices about the locations. You must travel and get there.

Here is the PPHH free version: https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/pph-essentials-2022.107973/

I have that version of the Peaceful Pill but I saw that a newer version was released in December 2023 and it specifically mentions that it contains an update on N in Peru. Did you find that the instructions and locations in the 2022 version were still up to date - did you have any issues at all?

 

[LifeIsCrazyNemb]

I have that version of the Peaceful Pill but I saw that a newer version was released in December 2023 and it specifically mentions that it contains an update on N in Peru. Did you find that the instructions and locations in the 2022 version were still up to date - did you have any issues at all?

No issues.
In Lima just follow the testmonials that refer to agroveterinaria store located in the green building, close to the stadium.

In Cuzco all stores are located in that street (calle tres cruces de oro). As PPH indicates, Cuzco is definetely much easier to buy Halatal than Lima.

 

[Elan123]

The PPH recommends a list of store in both Lima and Cuzco.
In Lima is harder, i got dennied in most of the cases except in one store.
In Cuzco is much easier, most of the stores recommended just sells withouth question anything.
I speak spanish but i think that its not a big issue since you can go and write them the name of the product.

Just follow the recomendations in the PPH, here is the link: https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/pph-essentials-2022.107973/

In Lima did they refuse because you need a prescription? What questions is any were you asked in Lima and Cuzco?

 

[LifeIsCrazyNemb]

In Lima did they refuse because you need a prescription? What questions is any were you asked in Lima and Cuzco?

In Lima all stores asked for prescriptions except for the one located in the green building as mentionated in some testmonials in PPH.

Is Cuzco i was asked for prescription in one store and the second one just selled me without asking for prescription. There are more than 15 stores in that street, is a matter of go and ask. My experience was pretty much the same compared to the testmonials you find in PPH.

 

[Elan123]

In Lima all stores asked for prescriptions except for the one located in the green building as mentionated in some testmonials in PPH.

Is Cuzco i was asked for prescription in one store and the second one just selled me without asking for prescription. There are more than 15 stores in that street, is a matter of go and ask. My experience was pretty much the same compared to the testmonials you find in PPH.

Out of interest did you suffer from the altitude at all? I've just been reading about altitude sickness. From what I've read it's recommended to gradually acclimatize staying at places with lower altitudes before those of higher altitudes like Cuzco. I've also seen mentioned medications that you can take to try and prevent it.

In Lima all stores asked for prescriptions except for the one located in the green building as mentionated in some testmonials in PPH.

Is Cuzco i was asked for prescription in one store and the second one just selled me without asking for prescription. There are more than 15 stores in that street, is a matter of go and ask. My experience was pretty much the same compared to the testmonials you find in PPH.

Were you asked what you needed it for or any other questions? I have read the section in PPH and I also noted the fact that it's a question of being persistent .

 

[LifeIsCrazyNemb]

Out of interest did you suffer from the altitude at all? I've just been reading about altitude sickness. From what I've read it's recommended to gradually acclimatize staying at places with lower altitudes before those of higher altitudes like Cuzco. I've also seen mentioned medications that you can take to try and prevent it.

I took medicine so i didnt suffer from altitude sickness. Diamox (Acetazolamide) is the medicine for Altitude Sickness. In my country is cheap and you can buy OTC.

Were you asked what you needed it for or any other questions? I have read the section in PPH and I also noted the fact that it's a question of being perspersistentig

As mentionaded by me and PPH, In Lima just that store in green bulding. No chances with others since they ask for prescription.

In Cuzco as already mentionated many times here, its easier, id say 40% of the stores are willing to sell without prescription. In otherwords, if a store ask for a prescription just step back and go to the next one (all stores are located in same street so its an easy task). Im confident that you can buy your halatal there, all testmonials (PPH and this forum) only reported sucesfull case!

Some recent reports from this forum:

Buying N in Peru Nov 2023 - personal experience

I just came back from Peru. And during my time there I successfully purchased 6 bottles of halatal 50ml/bottle. Halatal is the Peru version of N. Wouldn’t not share/pm names/places but want to focus on methods/strategies. A little background: I live in a western country, I am a visually...

sanctioned-suicide.net

Guide to getting Halatal in Peru

So in light of recent events I've decided to give out tips on what me and Ontwon did on how to get Halatal in Peru. Here is a PDF that I wrote out explaining what I did, how I did it, and what happened. I think sharing this is what they would've wanted. Cheers 🍻

sanctioned-suicide.net

All stores are very busy with many customers so just write down the name of the product "Halatal" in a paper or in your cell phone and show to the seller. Just say "hola" and show the name of the product. If they say No, just say "gracias" and walk to the next store. You will certainly find one that are willling to sell in Cuzco.

 

[Elan123]

I took medicine so i didnt suffer from altitude sickness. Diamox (Acetazolamide) is the medicine for Altitude Sickness. In my country is cheap and you can buy OTC.


As mentionaded by me and PPH, In Lima just that store in green bulding. No chances with others since they ask for prescription.

In Cuzco as already mentionated many times here, its easier, id say 40% of the stores are willing to sell without prescription. In otherwords, if a store ask for a prescription just step back and go to the next one (all stores are located in same street so its an easy task). Im confident that you can buy your halatal there, all testmonials (PPH and this forum) only reported sucesfull case!

Some recent reports from this forum:

Buying N in Peru Nov 2023 - personal experience

I just came back from Peru. And during my time there I successfully purchased 6 bottles of halatal 50ml/bottle. Halatal is the Peru version of N. Wouldn’t not share/pm names/places but want to focus on methods/strategies. A little background: I live in a western country, I am a visually...

sanctioned-suicide.net

Guide to getting Halatal in Peru

So in light of recent events I've decided to give out tips on what me and Ontwon did on how to get Halatal in Peru. Here is a PDF that I wrote out explaining what I did, how I did it, and what happened. I think sharing this is what they would've wanted. Cheers 🍻

sanctioned-suicide.net

All stores are very busy with many customers so just write down the name of the product "Halatal" in a paper or in your cell phone and show to the seller. Just say "hola" and show the name of the product. If they say No, just say "gracias" and walk to the next store. You will certainly find one that are willling to sell in Cuzco.

How much did it cost?

 

[LifeIsCrazyNemb]

How much did it cost?

- Halatal in Peru, each bottle (50ML) around 20 USD

- AE around 6USD

 

[Elan123]

- Halatal in Peru, each bottle (50ML) around 20 USD

- AE around 6USD

Is AE an anti emetic? if so which one ?

 

[Elan123]

N its pretry easy to get in Peru. I got 6 bottles last year, just go and check the PPHH advices about the locations. You must travel and get there.

Here is the PPHH free version: https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/pph-essentials-2022.107973/

Do you have a link for the most recent version that was released in December 2023 by any chance?