Discussion Nembutal, I did it so anything is possible

[rotciv]

Options that involve a peacefull exit and available resources without a prescription seem pretty limited from my perspective. Best alternative to N i found so far is DDMA. I managed to gather everything needed except Digoxin which seem impossible to find even on the DN.

high dose of amitrypline would do the work, dont need digoxin

 

[Chinaski]

that's an evil lie u and the gov put out to justify enslaving and torturing millions especially in old age in nursing homes.

what a ridiculous evil lie to hide the gov making everyone a slave.

everyone realizes there are millions of people suffering or that will suffer extremely and would need to buy nembutal . to deny an escape to the millions suffering extreme torture is pure evil . and to try to make excuses to whitewash these evil oppressive acts is also evil

many are people are suffering in extreme torture and are totally desperate and would do anything to be able to purchase nembutal . the evil gov idiots made nembutal a crime to make everyone a slave and are torturing many and have tortured millions that have suffered extreme torture and couldn't escape. you are trying to make excuses for the torture of millions of people

everyone realizes there are millions of people suffering or that will suffer extremely and would need to buy nembutal . to deny an escape to the millions suffering extreme torturing is pure evil . and to try to make excuses to whitewash these evil oppressive acts is also evil

they made someone else helping us with suicide a crime to keep us in the prison suffering extreme torture

around 20 million people attempt suicide every year showing the extent of the suffering

you nor the gov idiots are not superior to anyone else and can't tell us what to do with our own lives. if we want to or need to exit this hell it's none of your business. i haven't heard of any confirmed cases of nembutal murders as is that were a problem and as if Nembutal was the only way to murder other people . this is a ridiculous excuse . it's mind boggling you and the other one think this is a good argument. there are many ways of murdering people nembutal ranks nowhere in that list . however nembutal would be used by suicide in large numbers which is why they made it crime as they banned assisting in suicide , suicide booths, made all those crimes and even put nets around bridges : it's to stop suicide they made all these crimes .

billions of people living for decades 8 billion today and i haven't heard of people murdering anyone with nembutal . they have taken everyone's right to escape extreme torture , solve all their problems forever at once , and right to own their own body to individual autonomy making us slaves alll for some ridiculous bs lie . put many confirmed cases of confirmed murders with nembutal here or admit you are lying . 40,000 people die in car accidents in the USA. per year so then by your and the gov's "logic" then ban all cars cause someone might die and ban all knives people do murder others with knives. there's 8 billion people in the world . you could justify any evil with ridiculous fluke theories or fluke statistically insignificant incidents.


They made this world a prison taking away everyone's right to escape suffering pain and torture . they not only made nembutal a crime but also assisting in suicide they made a crime to turn this world into a prison. this is an exterme suicide prohibition state. we all will die anyway and we should all have a right to leave life when we want to . they made nembutal , helping in suicide, suicide booths etc crimes to keep us suffering every day in this prison for 90 years , the last 20-40 years in extreme torture

nobody can convince me there is an objective reason to live another minute or second in this evil prison hell. but you think you have right to tell me when i can leave this hell when we all will die anyway, ridiculous.

your prolonging of evil life as the epitimomy of subjective false morality because all die anyway is just a another falsehood to brainwash people into thinking making this world a prison is ok.

what don't you all controlling humans get about what i do with my own life and what i want to purchase is none of your business nor the evil gov business as long as i'm not affecting anyone else and i'm not . if i buy N from someone they are selling it voluntarily so it's only me and the seller's business it affects no one else and is no one else's business.

we're all going to die anyway. a human is just cells . but with a brain that can suffer constant unbearable pain and so one that needs to be able to buy nembutal to escape constant unbearable pain. u all wanting to control others and the evil gov have nothing to do with me and whether i want to kill these monstrous cells they call a human body i'm inprisoned in. if i get a constant unbearable pain in one of my organs i should be able to buy and take nembutal to take away that pain and solve all other of my problems if i want to : that is none of you nor the gov business. the only thing that matters to me is me avoiding constant unbearable pain. you seem to think you and the gov have some kind of objective morality for this 30 trillion cells and all other DNA life when there is none. you can't give an objective reason why i have to live another minute . you only have your made up false subjective morality which you try to impose on others even suffering beings who just want to end their pain . i don't even want to be on the same planet with such evil and injustice as this suicide prohibition state another reason and more fuel for me to kill myself asap but i don't need anymore reasons i have 1000 already

they made someone else helping us with suicide a crime to keep us in the prison suffering extreme torture

all these gov idiots who want people to wait or to make suicide methods crimes each should have to do all the people waiting to do lists, chores, work, for years to see how they like it . they want me to wait then do my job , chores , work 15 hours a day working a job ,chores , to do lists, dealing with problems suffering every day for decades

they made someone else helping us with suicide a crime to keep us in the prison suffering extreme torture

They're kinda right though imo. Will add here that there ain't no "gov idiot" keeping you alive right now, and if you define suffering as "making to do lists" your bar is pretty low imho. If you hate your job that much, quit it and find one you hate less maybe, idk.

 

[SPiriTX]

high dose of amitrypline would do the work, dont need digoxin

Yeah but how much? It's already 8g in the DDMA protocol

 

[rotciv]

Yeah but how much? It's already 8g in the DDMA protocol

Its enough. they just put in the rest of the chemicals to speed up the process.

The beauty of Pentobarbital is that it causes respiratory depression while protecting against hypoxia.

Options that involve a peacefull exit and available resources without a prescription seem pretty limited from my perspective. Best alternative to N i found so far is DDMA. I managed to gather everything needed except Digoxin which seem impossible to find even on the DN.

I developed a method using nitazenes that are as strong or stronger than fentanyl, dissolved in DMSO for topical application.

Speaking of substances, after barbiturates, opioids are the best substances, followed by tricyclic antidepressants.

 

[Willy Wonka]

veterinarian friend that used to hustle with me in high school

well then it´s not really possible, it´s just the stars aligning for you

also: couldn´t you have asked him for at least four bottles ...

(jk)

 

[SPiriTX]

Its enough. they just put in the rest of the chemicals to speed up the process.

Yeah that's the problem. It apparently takes up to 12 hours to cause death. So i really wonder if the Morphine and Diazepam cocktail will still work by the time.

 

[timeless001]

I've so many health issues and traumas lol only I know when its my time to go. And If you search my old posts I developed others indolor ways to ctb, this Nembutal thing was a God gift and fruit of luck and my experience on the underground drug world

It's up to you, of course. Just keep in mind that even if your health issues and the memories of your traumas are permanent, the pain related to those things is still a temporary state of your brain. There is a chance that the pain will go away and with it your suicidal ideation. When you are suicidal you are biased towards wanting to kill yourself. So your mind will come up with all sorts of justifications for why it makes sense to ctb. Justifications that only make sense when you are in pain.

 

[rotciv]

It's up to you, of course. Just keep in mind that even if your health issues and the memories of your traumas are permanent, the pain related to those things is still a temporary state of your brain. There is a chance that the pain will go away and with it your suicidal ideation. When you are suicidal you are biased towards wanting to kill yourself. So your mind will come up with all sorts of justifications for why it makes sense to ctb. Justifications that only make sense when you are in pain.

I'm 3 years in pain, isnt enough?

Yeah that's the problem. It apparently takes up to 12 hours to cause death. So i really wonder if the Morphine and Diazepam cocktail will still work by the time.

Yes, the others substances added are to speed up the process

 

[timeless001]

Again, it's up to you. Just sharing my thoughts on the matter.

 

[We Are Angels]

These are my two bottle I received from D in April 2022. I took the pic in my mum's garage shortly after, with the labels peeled off. For the first time in 20 years I felt some control over my life and a little peace. I paid $1000 for 200ml. In July 2022, on the hottest day ever recorded in the UK, I had the police barge into my home and immediately arrest me and search my flat and seized both bottles, which were in the fridge. I was arrested in front of my neigbhbours. I spent the day/night at the station explaining I was suicidal. My family and friends know. I don't care too much as Im very numb. I almost got a criminal record for it.

Should have buried them somewhere.

 

[TraumaEscapee:)]

Doesn't N need to be taken with a bunch of other medications though?

 

[rotciv]

Doesn't N need to be taken with a bunch of other medications though?

Antiemetics to prevent vomit.

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

Cut the rest of your rant for length.

Leaving aside your bizarre ideas about "the government" which have no bearing on reality, you'll notice that I didn't say people shouldn't be allowed to kill themself- the exact opposite.

You have spent five years on this website trying to convince other people that all life is suffering and they should kill themselves. You have no interest in "choice" except for yourself: you have chosen life for yourself and you want everyone else dead. To be clear, you are entitled to your own choice, and so is everyone else.

I want people to be able to make a genuine, thoughtful choice to kill themselves. Not a mere passing impulse, not being dared to do it by their friends, not being poisoned by someone else. Your ideas would inflict, by your own estimates, an amount of suffering equal to about three Holocausts every year, and that's not including the increase in murder, or increased numbers who might make an attempt.

For those of us who are chronically suicidal, we deserve a way out. That mustn't come at the expense of disproportionate increases in impulsive suicide and in poisoning murders. And certainly no reasonable person would assign any value to the policy prescriptions of pro-moralists whose only concern is inciting the suicides of others.

millions are suffering and need Nembutal to escape their torture. to take away their escape and to make up a lie that Nembutal is a murder weapon is beyond evil.

the gov stole everyone's right to escape extreme torture and to move away from pain or suffering. that's every human's most important right to move away from pain easily , instantly , painlessly in a guaranteed way . we had that right with Nembutal . but they and u say some ridiculous lie to try to excuse that evil of taking away peoples right to escape torture. that lie that Nembutal is used as a murder weapon which is ridiculous in part because anyone would taste the awful taste and not drink the Nembutal unless they want to very badly to escape their pain.

to take away a drink that could solve all my problems instantly and forever, that's an abominable crime , it's terrorism to keep people suffering without a way out.

And to further debunk your lie that they made Nembutal a crime because it's a murder weapon. that's the most ridiculous lie. to add to what i said in my post. Nembutal tastes awful . Nembutal couldn't be used as murder weapon because the victim would taste how awful and different their drink tastes and wouldn't drink it. almost anyone could taste that a drink tastes different and awful and won't drink it but spit it out. so they and u made up that lie that they made nembutal a crime because it's a murder weapon. no they made it a crime to stop people from using Nembutal to commit painless suicide .and to think you and the gov idiots give that lie as an excuse to Make nembutal a crime. nembutal murders were never a problem they needed to pass laws to make Nembutal a crime. and no one was murdered with Nembutal. they and you are lying Nembutal wasn't used as a murder weapon and couldn't because anyone could taste it.

millions are suffering and need Nembutal to escape their torture. to take away their escape and to make up a lie that Nembutal is a murder weapon is beyond evil.

to take away a drink that could solve all my problems instantly and forever, that's an abominable crime , it's terrorism to keep people suffering without a way out.

even those that aren't suffering extreme torture . out of those a lot of people would rather take a drink and solve all their problems instead of waking up the next day and working all day a job chores etc suffering and doing this every day for decades. to take away peoples' choice individual autonomy , right to move away from suffering is terrorism .

it's pure evil the gov idiots made Nembutal a crime , and someone helping in suicide , suicide booths. and you attempting to excuse those evil crimes is also evil.

i don't see any difference in what you are saying and the fix26 pro-living pro-life idiots say.

everything you say is ridiculous. I couldn't care less what another group of 30 trillion cells does or doesn't do wether they want to live a while longer or not is of no interest to me. every human will die anyway. so it's not if but when and how they die . it's the most ridiculous idiotic thing to worry about another creature and at which point they will die as they all will die anyway . every human will die anyway , each is just 30 trillion cells descended from the same cell , nothing matters to me except me avoiding unending constant unbearable pain and my suicide asap .imo this fleeting crap called life is not something important . Life can cause extreme torture and is prison torture slavery an imposition. where does someone get into their head they have a right to tell someone else they can't leave this hell when they want to .

this is a bit of reality: seems like you have never seen anything even remotely related to reality :

All Life on Earth Comes From One Single Ancestor. And It's So Much Older Than We Thought.

Scientists have pushed back LUCA’s origin by hundreds of millions of years.

www.popularmechanics.com

fyi a human is just a small animal . i don't see any difference between me a fly a mouse. for example all have brain cells or neurons. they are identical in all 3 species a neuron is a neuron. the descendants can't be different from the ancestor that first cell. so why the fuck would i care what another animal or group of cells does or doesn't do. plus all will die anyway so will the universe. even if all this wasn't true none of that crap they say is so important matters anyway. there is no objective reason for me nor any sentient animal to have to live another minute.

i don't give a crap anything you say and your ridiculous lies

nothing matters to me except avoiding unbearable pain and my suicide asap.

i only post philosophical crap to defeat my si and maybe if others confirm what i say and to vent not to argue with pro-living who want to control what others do .

All Species Evolved From Single Cell, Study Finds

Creationism is "an absolutely horrible hypothesis," says the author of a new study of the statistical probability of a universal common ancestor.

www.nationalgeographic.com

 

[Fangarina]

Options that involve a peacefull exit and available resources without a prescription seem pretty limited from my perspective. Best alternative to N i found so far is DDMA. I managed to gather everything needed except Digoxin which seem impossible to find even on the DN.

I agree. This was my first initial choice because of how peaceful it is, although PPH doesn't have it rated as high as I wild like.
The Digoxin seems to be very elusive in regards to picking up stuff, especially the amount we would need.

 

[Chinaski]

plus all will die anyway

ikr

 

[Unspoken7612]

anyone would taste the awful taste and not drink the Nembutal

Cutting the word salad to retain only the most pertinent parts.

Sure, Nembutal tastes bad. It's also a taste that is easy to cover up:

The use of oral pentobarbital sodium (Nembutal) versus oral chloral hydrate in infants undergoing CT and MR imaging--a pilot study - PubMed

Compared with chloral hydrate, oral Nembutal has significantly better acceptance by infants and parents, equal effectiveness, and may result in a shorter time to discharge.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

i only post philosophical crap to defeat my si and maybe if others confirm what i say and to vent not to argue with pro-living who want to control what others do .

Firstly, you're not going to defeat survival instincts by posting on a forum. Instincts cannot be reasoned with. You could potentially overcome them through brushes with mortality, but just saying "life is unbearable suffering" isn't going to do it.

And given that you saw me say "Nembutal shouldn't be available off the shelf" and immediately accused me of being "pro-living" and argued with me, going so far as to call me evil, clearly you are interested in arguing with people you think are "pro-living". The slightest objective challenge to your repugnant arguments causes you to immediately jump to hyperbolic accusations.

Those of us who have considered our options over extended periods and decided that we want to die and would like others to respect our choice behave very differently. Why is that?

 

[Talvikki]

Cutting the word salad to retain only the most pertinent parts.

Sure, Nembutal tastes bad. It's also a taste that is easy to cover up:

The use of oral pentobarbital sodium (Nembutal) versus oral chloral hydrate in infants undergoing CT and MR imaging--a pilot study - PubMed

Compared with chloral hydrate, oral Nembutal has significantly better acceptance by infants and parents, equal effectiveness, and may result in a shorter time to discharge.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Firstly, you're not going to defeat survival instincts by posting on a forum. Instincts cannot be reasoned with. You could potentially overcome them through brushes with mortality, but just saying "life is unbearable suffering" isn't going to do it.

And given that you saw me say "Nembutal shouldn't be available off the shelf" and immediately accused me of being "pro-living" and argued with me, going so far as to call me evil, clearly you are interested in arguing with people you think are "pro-living". The slightest objective challenge to your repugnant arguments causes you to immediately jump to hyperbolic accusations.

Those of us who have considered our options over extended periods and decided that we want to die and would like others to respect our choice behave very differently. Why is that?

You can't compare a sedative dose (milligrams) for infants with a lethal dose for adults.

A deadly dose requires several grams, which makes the solution bitter.

In the Netherlands, when pentobarbital is used for assisted suicide, sweeteners and anise oil are added. Despite this, the bitter taste remains.

So, not the best choice for a murder weapon.

 

[Scorpio moon gal]

yooh I'm envious wish you luck though

 

[Tommen Baratheon]

Noice!

 

[rotciv]

@doughmixer1982


ps: this wasnt my post on reddit

 

[rotciv]

I'm going to switch to smaller bottles and bury them.

Thank you to everyone who has believed in me and followed my posts over the years.

 

[rotciv]

just a little funny animation

 

[Trappednocure]

These are my two bottle I received from D in April 2022. I took the pic in my mum's garage shortly after, with the labels peeled off. For the first time in 20 years I felt some control over my life and a little peace. I paid $1000 for 200ml. In July 2022, on the hottest day ever recorded in the UK, I had the police barge into my home and immediately arrest me and search my flat and seized both bottles, which were in the fridge. I was arrested in front of my neigbhbours. I spent the day/night at the station explaining I was suicidal. My family and friends know. I don't care too much as Im very numb. I almost got a criminal record for it.

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That sucks but the fridge? Why?

I'm going to switch to smaller bottles and bury them.

Thank you to everyone who has believed in me and followed my posts over the years.


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Are you sure? I think you are not meant to open them.
I Am curious though on what reasons you in theory could use to a veterinarian or a contact to get this.

 

[rotciv]

That sucks but the fridge? Why?

Are you sure? I think you are not meant to open them.

So what I'm gonna do with the rest?

I only need 35ml for myself

 

[Trappednocure]

Thats not up to me to decide but make sure you are right about how much you need exactly of your exact bottle.

 

[AuroraB]

Would you like to trade your 2 bottles for a gorgeous river and mountain view condo apartment w/underground gated parking in a major USA city? LOL.

 

[rotciv]

Would you like to trade your 2 bottles for a gorgeous river and mountain view condo apartment w/underground gated parking in a major USA city? LOL.

Nah. I gave it to you a couple mls for free If u come here and thats the max.

I'm gonna ctb in my country.

 

[AuroraB]

Nah. I gave it to you a couple mls for free If u come here and thats the max.

I'm gonna ctb in my country.

I do love the EU. I was in Germany, Poland and Canary Islands last year. I went to Dachau and Auschwitz Concentration Camps, visited friends, etc. - Lovely trip.

 

[rotciv]

I do love the EU. I was in Germany, Poland and Canary Islands last year. I went to Dachau and Auschwitz Concentration Camps, visited friends, etc. - Lovely trip.

In the condition your not doing it here.

To me all good.

 

[fvckfamily]

Na condição de você não fazer isso aqui.

Para mim tudo bem.

Você é br né? Vi pelo rótulo do N