Do you mean people that you became emotionally connected to, who suicide out because of reasons such as what you described? If so, I really don't think my stance would change. It might be my stunted emotional side speaking, but if life was tough enough where they couldn't find a solution to their problem outside cutting their own life short, then I would be perfectly ok with that, because they chose to do so. Now, if their suicide is a result of someone manipulating them into doing so, ( like that young man in the news, who died from the fumes of his truck, because his girlfriend kept telling him to get back in despite him saying he wanted to get out,) then no I wouldnt agree with something like that. So I guess what im trying to say is it all comes down to what they are mentally wanting to do.
Sorry for stealing this, but I have a good response to this one. I certainly see online friendship as high as one made in real life. I consider my friend to be at about the same level as a relative, mainly since we could share anything with each other without fear of judgement. The moment where you cease to treat your online friend as a person you met online, and start seeing him as a really close friend who really cares for you, is the moment where he becomes something truly special.
Yes I think you're understanding and interpreting my story accurately. Thanks for your feedback.
Yes, obviously you know where I stand based on what I'm saying but I concur with respect to the young woman who got the young man to get back in the truck.
The same way as everywhere else, I guess. People interact with each other, observe and access each other, identify those who seem to be worth making friends with and deploy various strategies to gain their friendship. Interesting how you said "protect oneself in case the friend CTBs". Are you saying that when in one participant of friendship dies, then another one will/might feel hurt? It seems to be true for some of us, looking at the reactions here on the forum.
I don't see the need to protect myself if I had a friend who would CTB. My friend did what he/she wanted to, and doesn't have to feel bad anymore.
Even if I would feel bad, I don't see it as a bad thing because a strong emotional distress has the potential to drive me to CTB, which I see as a good thing.
So it pretty much looks like a win-win to me, but I'm NOT looking for a recovery, and I'd like not to befriend those who do look for a recovery.
Frankly, being totally candid I don't have the tools to protect myself. SMH
Just the fact that I'm now a member and no longer lurking, this tiny bit of extra excitement has me teetering in hypomania for the last 10 days.
Obviously a neutral independent party would tell me chupacabra get off of there and don't post anymore. But I think posting might be helping me to potentially head into recovery.
I accept this is hard to understand perhaps for some. Maybe even more so for those who don't suffer mood disorders?
And, thank you for your thoughts.
First of all, I expect myself to understand that those friendships were built on a suicide forum.
Second of all, spiritually speaking, I believe that energies never die, atmost they only transform to one way or another,
in that sense, people/pets who pass away, they are with us, still in the same universe, somewhere.
I agree with the understanding friendships were built on a suicide form. Well I was lurking I would see up pouring a support on these goodbye threads with people who clearly were grieving. I didn't understand it then but I understand it now. And I can really see what time how I can grow detached or somebody where otherwise they shouldn't have. Think I just raised this awkwardly so please don't misunderstand what I'm trying to say, but in 20 minutes McDonald's opens and I don't want to be late to get my coffee. Thus, I don't want to rework the phraseology above. Lol
Having a sensitive ear, a little hard-earned wisdom, and a willingness to reach out and connect with people in-need sounds like a great set of character traits. I think it would be a shame to deprive yourself of friendships because of a fear that one party may not be around some day, after all, what you fear is also what bonds you (we all came to SS for a reason).
It's getting late here too, and by late I mean late in the morning because man, I've been up all night! Us youngsters eh!
Have a great sleep fella :)
Wow, that remark hits deep. Gracias!
I've been talking to some members and I've started to be affectionate to them but I honestly don't know how to answer to this question. On one side I'm happy they'll be finally at peace, on the other side I'd be absloutely devastated.
I've been talking to some members and I've started to be affectionate to them but I honestly don't know how to answer to this question. On one side I'm happy they'll be finally at peace, on the other side I'd be absloutely devastated.
Sounds like we're in the same club. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
I emotionally prepare myself for it. Of course already going through it once numbing myself to the idea isn't as difficult I don't advise you do it though. I cried for a few days.
Thanks for the candid answer. I'm teary-eyed reading every single post in this thread. No joke. Just anticipating what the heartache could feel like.
The same way as everywhere else, I guess. People interact with each other, observe and access each other, identify those who seem to be worth making friends with and deploy various strategies to gain their friendship. Interesting how you said "protect oneself in case the friend CTBs". Are you saying that when in one participant of friendship dies, then another one will/might feel hurt? It seems to be true for some of us, looking at the reactions here on the forum.
I don't see the need to protect myself if I had a friend who would CTB. My friend did what he/she wanted to, and doesn't have to feel bad anymore.
Even if I would feel bad, I don't see it as a bad thing because a strong emotional distress has the potential to drive me to CTB, which I see as a good thing.
So it pretty much looks like a win-win to me, but I'm NOT looking for a recovery, and I'd like not to befriend those who do look for a recovery.
Yes you're reading my responses correctly. I have the financial means to do Pegasus. I followed fightingsuic'd story closely as an example. And watch the video of the French woman doing euthanasia that somebody posted on this site.
I pictured bringing my sister or a friend to do euthanasia and Switzerland with me. But I'm a total cry baby and I know I will cry. Not because I was thinking about decision, just because my moons in Scorpio - shout out to those who follow astrology and get the meaning.
I don't think there are strategies to protect you from it. Except, of course, that you refrain from writing to other users.
With that you would give away the greatest advantage of this forum. To be able to speak openly with someone about the ctb without having to be afraid.
You're new here and may have to get used to it. But almost all of us are only here for a short time and want to die soon, want to leave our torments behind and find our peace.
It was also very difficult for me at the beginning, although I have always called death my friend. The pain you experience when a friend leaves is part of the learned appreciation for life. The thought that he has now "lost" his life.
It hurt me incredibly every time, but after a short time the joy outweighed the fact that he now has the release from his pain, which was many times greater than my grief.
If a friend leaves now, I miss him, but it doesn't hurt anymore, I'm happy with him.
I am happy when I can hug him goodbye and wish him a pleasant journey.
I can't give you any advice on how to protect yourself because that is a deeply ingrained part of yourself that makes you grieve. But I know that the stronger the De, the easier it gets
I was very grateful to see your icon as I work my way down the thread responding to each members contribution.
I am new here but I've been lurking since last October. I follow your posts closely because you bring a wisdom and an outlook that feels unique compared to all others, IMO.
Thank you for your input and I remember that you need to use Google translate to understand. Thank you for spending the time to do this because your opinions are very valuable.
Peace.
I don't think there are strategies to protect you from it. Except, of course, that you refrain from writing to other users.
With that you would give away the greatest advantage of this forum. To be able to speak openly with someone about the ctb without having to be afraid.
You're new here and may have to get used to it. But almost all of us are only here for a short time and want to die soon, want to leave our torments behind and find our peace.
It was also very difficult for me at the beginning, although I have always called death my friend. The pain you experience when a friend leaves is part of the learned appreciation for life. The thought that he has now "lost" his life.
It hurt me incredibly every time, but after a short time the joy outweighed the fact that he now has the release from his pain, which was many times greater than my grief.
If a friend leaves now, I miss him, but it doesn't hurt anymore, I'm happy with him.
I am happy when I can hug him goodbye and wish him a pleasant journey.
I can't give you any advice on how to protect yourself because that is a deeply ingrained part of yourself that makes you grieve. But I know that the stronger the De, the easier it gets
Also if I am remembering correctly isn't your date the 27th of this month? I tried to memorize your date so I can be here.
Are you still on track for the date. From my own selfish reasons I hope you will stay a while longer and spread more knowledge. But I'm pro-choice...........
This is a good question.
There are a few people I see regularly comment on here and we exchange the odd 'like' or comment.
Then there are people who I message and we seem to get along more and seem to be similar in some ways.
I've had one person tell me that if I ended my life they wouldn't view this forum in the same way and may stop using it altogether.
I feel the same way about some people.
I don't know how to deal with it, but I think it's just the reality of how we're feeling.
What a nice compliment that member gave to you, wow!
For my own selfish reason I hope you stay as long as possible. Who else on the form is going to remind us of the great wisdom of arguably the best President ever from United States, Abraham Lincoln. I loved learning that quote you shared with us from Lincoln the other day. It made me laugh throughout the entire day! Thanks, I don't laugh enough. I look forward to many more inspiring quotes from you throughout the coming days.
Peace.
