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Phoenix

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Yes A is an absolute nightmare to respond but he doesn't usually take weeks. Maybe try him again. I'm going to try on his T address
 
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I diluted 1ml of D's N with water in a 12 panel drug testing cup (I didn't want to be a guinea pig and actually drink a sleep test dose without any confirmation) and to much surprise to everyone here (sarcasm) it came back preliminary positive for barbiturates and negative for everything else.
 
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Twohorn

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@Meditation guide claimed back in 2020 that Energy Control is unreliable. see post...
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/nembutal-from-mexico.56238/page-2#post-1054267

as did: @forevernonescaped https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/n-from-d.61073/#post-1181466

@Twohorn are you planning to retest via another company or Exit's kits?
Energy Control's reputation among recreational drug users (their usual clientele) is very positive. I'm not aware of any other lab in Europe who would offer the same service for N, but if someone else does know one I would look into it. I did use the Exit International test cassettes which found my samples negative for barbiturates, but I appreciate these are not 100% reliable.
 
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Aug 12, 2020
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Energy Control's reputation among recreational drug users (their usual clientele) is very positive. I'm not aware of any other lab in Europe who would offer the same service for N, but if someone else does know one I would look into it. I did use the Exit International test cassettes which found my samples negative for barbiturates, but I appreciate these are not 100% reliable.
Why didn't you post those exit international results when they came up negative? Why didn't post the results from C when you found out? If it were all true, do you not think it would of been helpful information back then? Why don't you contact exit and send through your EC findings? There's just so many questions with you which makes me question your whole agenda.
 
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Twohorn

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I mean, I knew categorically that my powder from C was paracetamol and did consider posting about my experience here, but as many have observed I'm not a regular poster so I suppose I gave up on the idea. My understanding is that C is no longer selling; I suspect their supply of N was running out and they had begun scamming by the time I purchased from them.
 
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alown

soon in the other reality where we come from ༄
Mar 13, 2021
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Why didn't you post those exit international results when they came up negative? Why didn't post the results from C when you found out? If it were all true, do you not think it would of been helpful information back then? Why don't you contact exit and send through your EC findings? There's just so many questions with you which makes me question your whole agenda.
the lies persist when the intention itself starts from a lie, we are now 2 to have tested the N and it is positive, I do not understand what the purpose of this guy is by doing this ...
I mean, I knew categorically that my powder from C was paracetamol and did consider posting about my experience here, but as many have observed I'm not a regular poster so I suppose I gave up on the idea. My understanding is that C is no longer selling; I suspect their supply of N was running out and they had begun scamming by the time I purchased from them.
I don't believe a single one of your words, the only thing that has been said in connection with C is that his powder had a lower percentage than that expected in barbiturate.

There has never been paracetamol there, several have tested it and concerning A and D they send pento vet which is authentic, I myself had it tested, I do not understand what your goal is by trying to dissuade people who experience very deep discomfort from finding solutions.

Without disrespect you waste your time and you waste ours with your bullshit.
 
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I mean, I knew categorically that my powder from C was paracetamol and did consider posting about my experience here, but as many have observed I'm not a regular poster so I suppose I gave up on the idea. My understanding is that C is no longer selling; I suspect their supply of N was running out and they had begun scamming by the time I purchased from them.
Yeah I call bullshit as well. Another excuse that just doesn't make sense. You "suppose" you gave up on the idea? You mean the idea of warning others that you're supposed to relate to, to not get scammed, lose their money and have their head messed with more? So you didnt care about that and didn't want to post about one result even with "categorical proof" because you thought we wouldn't listen. However, then you thought we would listen to 3 test results later on discrediting all 3 sellers, with results that haven't happened to anyone but you only show one test result. Your whole vibe is just off. Your response and demeanour just isn't natural for someone who is suicidal and relates to those who are.
 
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Thiopentone31

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Mar 30, 2021
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I diluted 1ml of D's N with water in a 12 panel drug testing cup (I didn't want to be a guinea pig and actually drink a sleep test dose without any confirmation) and to much surprise to everyone here (sarcasm) it came back preliminary positive for barbiturates and negative for everything else
thanks for reporting. Where did you find the 12 panel test with also barbiturate?

what do you mean for preliminary positive?
 
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peacefulhorizons

Wizard
Dec 31, 2019
676
thanks for reporting. Where did you find the 12 panel test with also barbiturate?

what do you mean for preliminary positive?
ebay (amazon also has them)

preliminary positive is just terminology at-home drug tests use since they are not 100% accurate
 
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HopelessFight

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Jan 31, 2021
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I diluted 1ml of D's N with water in a 12 panel drug testing cup (I didn't want to be a guinea pig and actually drink a sleep test dose without any confirmation) and to much surprise to everyone here (sarcasm) it came back preliminary positive for barbiturates and negative for everything else.
Thanks a lot for sharing! If you don't mind, are you willing to share what kind of test you've used? I'm interested in buying one as well so I can test the substance the day I use it, just in case.

The claim of @Twohorn sounds less and less likely every day. Is there any chance EC might send fake test results, considering they know N is only being used to CTB? I've never used EC myself and didn't even know they exist until a few days ago, but I'm reading mixed experiences about them.
 
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Thiopentone31

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Mar 30, 2021
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Thanks a lot for sharing! If you don't mind, are you willing to share what kind of test you've used? I'm interested in buying one as well so I can test the substance the day I use it, just in case.

The claim of @Twohorn sounds less and less likely every day. Is there any chance EC might send fake test results, considering they know N is only being used to CTB? I've never used EC myself and didn't even know they exist until a few days ago, but I'm reading mixed experiences about them.
I don't think they can send fake results on porpouse. Otherwise they would just delete barbiturates from the list of active substances researched.
 
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peacefulhorizons

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Thanks a lot for sharing! If you don't mind, are you willing to share what kind of test you've used? I'm interested in buying one as well so I can test the substance the day I use it, just in case.

The claim of @Twohorn sounds less and less likely every day. Is there any chance EC might send fake test results, considering they know N is only being used to CTB? I've never used EC myself and didn't even know they exist until a few days ago, but I'm reading mixed experiences about them.
It's just a urine drug test (make sure barbiturates are included because it's rarely included).They test the drug itself and not it's metabolites so you can just dilute N with water and it works the same way as urine. It's the same test strip as the Exit International barbiturate test kit cassette and you don't have to way overpay : )

They're available on Amazon and eBay
 
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HopelessFight

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It's just a urine drug test (make sure barbiturates are included because it's rarely included).They test the drug itself and not it's metabolites so you can just dilute N with water and it works the same way as urine. It's the same test strip as the Exit International barbiturate test kit cassette and you don't have to way overpay : )

They're available on Amazon and eBay
So you used 1ml of N, how much water did you mix with it? I think I'll buy a few of these test kits as well, thanks for the information.
 
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peacefulhorizons

Wizard
Dec 31, 2019
676
So you used 1ml of N, how much water did you mix with it? I think I'll buy a few of these test kits as well, thanks for the information.
The minimum amount of liquid should be specified on the packaging and it will vary but I used 100ml for mine. 1ml is probably too much considering how sensitive these tests usually are so maybe 0.5ml would be sufficient??? Make sure to use a syringe and don't crack the seal
 
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Thiopentone31

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It's just a urine drug test (make sure barbiturates are included because it's rarely included).They test the drug itself and not it's metabolites so you can just dilute N with water and it works the same way as urine. It's the same test strip as the Exit International barbiturate test kit cassette and you don't have to way overpay : )

They're available on Amazon and eBay
How can you say thay they are the same? Are you sure that it doesnt work with metabolites? If this is reliable could be really useful.
 
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katesmith

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Mar 30, 2021
86
ebay (amazon also has them)

preliminary positive is just terminology at-home drug tests use since they are not 100% accurate
So you did your test at home? Do you just type in drug test kit at home on amazon or something? I want to check mine. All of this has fucked with my head!
 
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peacefulhorizons

Wizard
Dec 31, 2019
676
How can you say thay they are the same? Are you sure that it doesnt work with metabolites? If this is reliable could be really useful.
Mine came with an piece of paper with a chart showing the concentration of each drug (not metabolites) that would trigger a positive result
 
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Thiopentone31

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Mar 30, 2021
51
Mine came with an piece of paper with a chart showing the concentration of each drug (not metabolites) that would trigger a positive result
that's interesting. But i am not sure it's the same of exit's one. Anyway I found online some kit to test substances (not urine), I've sent an email to ask how to buy them
 
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alown

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Mar 13, 2021
297
So you used 1ml of N, how much water did you mix with it? I think I'll buy a few of these test kits as well, thanks for the information.

well I found rapidtest.com offers a specific test kit for barbiturates, it remains a urine test but probably more specific

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Taos

Student
Apr 19, 2021
119
Conflicting info. Is Derek Humphrey overly cautious? Philip lax?

DH: 1. "if a person does not take plenty of anti-emetics prior to drinking pentobarbital then they will almost certainly vomit it up."
2. "unless a person took anti-emetic pills every hour all day before, vomiting be most likely to follow. Then failure."

He said extended comas are "internet gossip" (I'm pretty sure they're not, just extremely rare); and that two bottles "work faster". I seem to remember reading that was false, also.
 
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RedHarlequin

Mage
Jul 8, 2018
530
PPH says 2 days of MCP 10 mg ever 8 hours (3x a day, for example 8am 4mp 12pm). 40 mins before N 20-30mg MCP. I think this is legit because I was treated with ketamine and got really sick from it. Just one dose of MCP 2 hours prior and I didn't feel any sickness. What PPH also says is that it is advisable to eat something light before like tea and toast an hour before taking N
 
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Thegoldenapples

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PPH says 2 days of MCP 10 mg ever 8 hours (3x a day, for example 8am 4mp 12pm). 40 mins before N 20-30mg MCP. I think this is legit because I was treated with ketamine and got really sick from it. Just one dose of MCP 2 hours prior and I didn't feel any sickness. What PPH also says is that it is advisable to eat something light before like tea and toast an hour before taking N
Thats good that its very effective. Did you take 10mg or 30mg for your dose?
 
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Taos

Student
Apr 19, 2021
119
Can someone help me? I suffered a brain injury. I cannot process info well. I am so fucking dumb now it hurts. I have read guides, used the search bar, I am NOT being lazy.

I have a Mac OS (89.95gb space left). No iphone. Tor browser. Protonmail. I want to use Monero. I don't understand wallets, nodes, VPNs. I need hand-holding here lol.

I REALLY need someone to help me step-by-step to set things up. I do not understand a word of what I'm reading. I just need something easy to download and use, private/safe as possible, and someone who is willing to answer questions. Thanks.
 
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Fin

Normality is a crowd-sourced fantasy.
Apr 20, 2019
93
A user whom I'd been chatting with in this past month attempted to CTB with the *substance* received from D last Thursday morning. They haven't been seen online since then (their last activity on the forum was a private message to me). They made a couple of posts in this megathread last Wednesday evening, after the controversy over the legitimacy of A's, D's and C's pentobarbital started. They told me they would be back on the forum in the event of failure. Even though it may still be too early to draw decisive conclusions, I'm pretty sure this will end up as further proof that what people have been purchasing from Mexican sellers is, indeed, pentobarbital.
 
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katesmith

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A user who i have been chatting too as well he brought N from D and hasn't been on since last thursday so I am assuming it was successful
 
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RainAndSadness

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Jun 12, 2018
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Can someone explain to me why people are referring to B as D? The PPH only lists vendors with the shortcut A or B.
 
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Fin

Normality is a crowd-sourced fantasy.
Apr 20, 2019
93
Can someone explain to me why people are referring to B as D? The PPH only lists vendors with the shortcut A or B.
"B" signs off his emails as D. So "B" is just the letter they came up with in the PPeH, where they listed the three legit sellers as A, B and C.
 
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RedHarlequin

Mage
Jul 8, 2018
530
I just received an email from Energy Control saying that the report posted here is correct.
C6F3F968 DB93 46F3 9538 03FB4BE98228
 
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Thiopentone31

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I just received an email from Energy Control saying that the report posted here is correct.
WTF? So we have three options:
1) the user sent GHB to EC
2) EC's analysis is not that realiable (but thats is quite odd to me)
3) A/D sells GHB instead of N
 
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