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U. A.

U. A.

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Aug 8, 2022
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So I don't know if it ever really expires, especially if it's been sealed the whole time. But in any case, it kinda feels like a big deal.

When I got it, I told myself if things weren't decidedly better at the end of 2025, I'd get the fuck outta here. And are they?

.....

I'd say in all ways but one, they are decidedly worse. The only thing that's better is I have quality people in my life again (for now) who seem to legit care about me (for now). But, almost none of them live remotely close to me. And my capacity/desire to interact with others has so dwindled; it used to be a nearly-anytime effective balm to the agony that is life otherwise, connecting with good people. Now, I'm physically -> mentally so much more fucked that I simply can't or don't want to spend what at times is precious little energy on that.

The OTHER thing I wasn't even considering back when I got the SN was that this decade anniversary is kind of...fitting. 2016 began as one of the absolute hardest times (up to that point) for me, but I completely turned it around with my own will, ability, and initiative and it ended up turning into the absolute prime of my life. Not that things were ever truly thoroughly bad - actually most of life had been solid for me admittedly - but here had been only one other period of time that even came close, which was differently good, but this time I felt like a god. I was living so much, doing so much. I was so alive.

And before the year was out, my closest friend exited this world.

It took months but I eventually came out of the ensuing agony, though a changed human. Priorities and perspective changed. I was in the same place with the same opportunities but I lived differently, and wanted to. Frankly I could have managed on that path I think, with those (and other) conditions as they were in the ensuing 6-12 months.
But then the health problems started. I experienced a recurring pain the likes of which I did not previously think possible, that was so horrendous with no end in sight that I doubted how long I could live. Of course it eventually went into remission (only to be come intermittent and episodic to this day), but then all the other shit happened, spear after spear into my sides. Always struggling to stay afloat, to redefine what "living" and "life" even were.

I've done it so many times now, and am so tired. I don't see this pattern ending anytime soon, definitely not in my lifetime. I hate being on this eternal precipice, of being so aware of how bad things are - and will continue to get - but not feeling like it's "bad enough" because of good days and survival instinct and fucking treacherous, misplaced hope. The most evil of evils.

Then, of course, the fear of the SN failing and/or me changing my mind halfway. And THAT fucking me up in any manner of ways, making me worse off, etc. That thought is appalling, and part of why I feel the need to be absolutely fucking sure the time is right. Oh, how I wish I lived in a country where firearms were accessible. Truly that is the only way. Such high chance of success, so wonderfully instantaneous. I don't want it to be possible to change my mind in the middle of things. For the medical system to hurt me (again) instead of "helping" me. And incidentally, I fucking hate this piece of shit country that will hand out medically-provide death like candy to its citizens without guaranteeing those people have housing, food, actual medical CARE, and whatever other basic necessities everyone should have. "Can't help ya live, but happy to help ya die!". Fuck this place.

Anyway, tangent; guess there's nothing to do but see what the next six months hold. I can see this period of despair ending in that time, while I don't actually expect it as I doubt the external conditions causing it will resolve. I'm so tired of treading water here. I just want to not wake up one day. Is that too much to ask..?
 
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Anonymousa

Anonymousa

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I want to say your SN is probably going to last a lot longer as often chemicals are still good past their expiration date for a long time. SN is a curing salt has no hard expiration date and can last a very very long time if stored well and still for quite a long time in a unstable environment

info I got from this thread:

I am sorry this pain is continuing and getting worse with the god awful health problems, I hope you are able to escape out of that pain soon.
 
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U. A.

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Thank you @Namelesa. Yes, I figure it probably is good beyond this time...the cosmic link up to the beginning of a year I fundamentally don't want to live through as stated by the package expiry is just weird. It was from IC and no clue how the date was chosen and well I can't ask at this point, ha.

Maybe that will be a project of mine this year if I live it, learn a lil' chemistry and try to figure it out. Of course I don't know when it was produced so I'd probably have to test it to be sure. And opening will expedite degradation, to some extent, ugh.
 
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Forever Sleep

Earned it we have...
May 4, 2022
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Mine expires then too. I know what you mean, it's like this other looming worry. I know it would probably still be ok. My Meto is already years out of date too. It just feels like risk upon risk compounding, when it's scary enough as it is.
Thank you @Namelesa. Yes, I figure it probably is good beyond this time...the cosmic link up to the beginning of a year I fundamentally don't want to live through as stated by the package expiry is just weird. It was from IC and no clue how the date was chosen and well I can't ask at this point, ha.

Maybe that will be a project of mine this year if I live it, learn a lil' chemistry and try to figure it out. Of course I don't know when it was produced so I'd probably have to test it to be sure. And opening will expedite degradation, to some extent, ugh.

I probably bought mine at the same time (ish) as you and, from the same place. I know that another member did use expired SN from there and, was successful still. That vaguely reassures me but, it's just another worry though.
 
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U. A.

"Ultra Based" gigashad
Aug 8, 2022
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Thank you @Forever Sleep...hate to be "reassured" by something so morbid but alas...

Yeah, I think it probably depends a lot on the nature of the chemical. Some chemicals by nature of their composition just become other ones over time, cause of molecules leaving or being added or whatever even more complicated thing I only partially grasp is going on. This is what they mean re: "stability" I gather.
A cursory search indicates it indeed degrades slowly, and (unsurprisingly) exposure to air and/or water hasten that degradation. The nitrite becomes nitrate which isn't toxic, but good old Wiki says it might actually be to some degree (now I'm reading about methemoglobinemia though which honestly doesn't sound too fun; no one ever mentioned seizures...)

But I hate a bus ticket with a truly unknown expiry date. Talk about nerve wracking. Having it brings me a modicum of comfort in this dismal fucking existence. And after the goddamn fuzz showed up at my place I know better than to give ID if I ever need to buy something like this again...

Anyway, it's sort of nice we both still have tickets for the same destination we got from the same place around the same time.
 
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Obliviate

Obliviate

Abandon All Hope
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Mine expires then too. I know what you mean, it's like this other looming worry. I know it would probably still be ok. My Meto is already years out of date too. It just feels like risk upon risk compounding, when it's scary enough as it is.


I probably bought mine at the same time (ish) as you and, from the same place. I know that another member did use expired SN from there and, was successful still. That vaguely reassures me but, it's just another worry though.
Hey when did you guys purchase your SN and where? We might be on the same boat since we were all here a couple years ago. I bought mine in 2022 from DD which was a popular source back then, now discontinued.
 
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Forever Sleep

Earned it we have...
May 4, 2022
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Hey when did you guys purchase your SN and where? We might be on the same boat since we were all here a couple years ago. I bought mine in 2022 from DD which was a popular source back then, now discontinued.

Also in 2022. From IC- Kenneth Law- also discontinued- with him in jail.
 
unluckysadness

unluckysadness

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Jul 9, 2025
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I saw a post showing it has a 5 year shelf life
 
Xiaojiu

Xiaojiu

cease to exist 不复存在
Mar 28, 2025
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I talked to my source, who is also a chemist, about how long it will last. And he said that if it's unopened and stored in a cool dry place, it can last 5-10 years. O;
 

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