This is my first post on this forum, and Tantacrul's video is the reason I found it.
After lurking around here over the past week, I've come to the conclusion that he is wrong in his assesment. Even though there are some red flags about this forum (like the creators also being behind several female-hostile incel forums), I find that SS is remarkably civil and that the atmosphere is very supportive. The fact that people here seem to spend a lot of time writing eloquent responses, looks to me like something that could inspire the exact hope in humanity that I would have cherised at the time I was suicidal.
To that end, I'm quite dissapointed in Tantacrul. Like user wanttogetonthebus wrote on pg 3 of this thread, I have been folllowing Tantacrul, or Martin Keary, on Youtube for quite a while, and I think he has made very good videos in the past. For example, he has a video about how musical toys of bad quality are patronising to children and adults alike. He talks a lot about showing empathy towards beginners and those not yet enfranchised with something, and calling out those taking advantage of them. I would have thought he would be a bit more understanding towards suicidal people, but the more his video went on, the more tone-deaf it became. The ending was a catastrophe. But the most clueless were the people he interviewed. My god, what self-rigtheous family members and politicians.
I agree with what others have said about Martins relationship with System32. Pointing to the fact that someone is always displaying a positive aura in all your interactions, and therefor would not *really* want to end their life, is naive at best and arrogant at worst. But I disagree that Martin is only going after this forum to gain viewership and sympathy from his audience. I actually think he is going through a trauma. System32 is probably the first person he has "known" that actually went through with suicide. I believe he blames himself for this, and the video is a Youtuber's way of mobilising his feelings. I think he thought he had to do something, and with no other villain in sight, he could only go after the forum. It's like others have said, if you actually get to know the reason why a person wants to end their life, you would see that there are many things to go after before a bleak internet forum, but the poeple that are usually the most apalled when an acquaintance takes their own life are usually the ones that never took time to understand their viewpoint of life in the first place.
There is also another possibility: That Martin has been suicidal in the past himself, and reading about suicide here is triggering for him. Like many people, maybe the toxic positivity is a coping mechanism, and the way he made the video is more to convince himself that suicide is wrong than it is to sway others.
I will be very interested in what Martin does next, for he has historically not been as clueless as he was in that video, and nowhere nere as clueless as the people he interviewed. I believe he is probably still lurking the site. I don't really know what I would do in his situation, becuase even though he has relatively large power on the internet, we all know a Youtuber has nowhere near enough power to actually change any of the things that are actually wrong with the world.