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MessyNonsense
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- May 29, 2026
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After my first idea turned out to be one that wouldn't work, I've decided to try CO. After reading around this site and this great CO manual: https://www.sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/charcoal-method-advice.94265/#post-1655792 i've decided on a plan I think should work. FYI, the second half of this post is math relating to my alcohol tolerance, so read if you like but you don't have to, I'd love as much input as possible and don't want people to be put off by a long read.
I have an entirely unventilated, small closet (approx. 5.97 cubic meters) in a relatively newly built house. I'm going to order gorilla tape to seal the door frame gaps, along with plenty of lump charcoal, lighter fluid, a CO meter, and a portable grill. I'm going to light the charcoal outside until it turns white, then bring it into the closet. I'll take the benzos I've been stockpiling, but not the alcohol (since the linked post says alcohol can actually reduce your body's reaction to the CO.)
Some kinks I haven't worked out, please advise:
- Am I supposed to bring the charcoal into the closet, THEN seal up the door frame? Won't I pass out before I get halfway done sealing the door? Then the CO will leak and I'll live. I can hardly seal the door before going in, after all. Nothing I've read talks about this.
- The benzos will almost certainly cause my breathing to slow, possibly to negligible levels - won't that run the risk of me not breathing in enough CO? Everything I've read doesn't talk about this, despite many advising benzos or sleeping pills in addition to CO so as to ease the process.
- I'm unsure whether I should use alcohol in addition to the benzos. The manual I linked says:
Hard to determine exactly how much actual alcohol this all amounts to, since the smaller bottles are ambiguous as to whether they mean 20% brandy or 20% actual ethanol (for those who don't know, alcoholic drinks are only partly comprised of actual drinkable alcohol (ethanol)). Google AI said: "Brandy typically contains between 35% and 60% ethanol by volume (ABV), which is equal to 70 to 120 US proof. However, the vast majority of commercial brandies—including Cognac, Armagnac, and standard fruit brandies—are bottled at exactly 40% ABV 80 proof."
So it looks like I've got 0.5oz of ethanol from the larger bottle (close to the 0.6oz ethanol per 1.5oz shot of hard liquor). Plus, let's say, 12ml of ethanol total from the other bottles, assuming each one is 40% ABV, which equals just a hair over 0.4oz ethanol. Totalling almost a whole ounce of ethanol. Someone please check me on this however, I'm pretty brainfogged.
So for me, someone with zero alcohol tolerance, what kind of effect would an ounce of alcohol (remember, a whole ounce of actual ethanol) have on me? Would it constrict my blood vessels and hinder the CO? Would it make the benzos suppress my breathing too much to breath in enough CO? Might it even make me vomit? Or would it just help things?
I have an entirely unventilated, small closet (approx. 5.97 cubic meters) in a relatively newly built house. I'm going to order gorilla tape to seal the door frame gaps, along with plenty of lump charcoal, lighter fluid, a CO meter, and a portable grill. I'm going to light the charcoal outside until it turns white, then bring it into the closet. I'll take the benzos I've been stockpiling, but not the alcohol (since the linked post says alcohol can actually reduce your body's reaction to the CO.)
Some kinks I haven't worked out, please advise:
- Am I supposed to bring the charcoal into the closet, THEN seal up the door frame? Won't I pass out before I get halfway done sealing the door? Then the CO will leak and I'll live. I can hardly seal the door before going in, after all. Nothing I've read talks about this.
- The benzos will almost certainly cause my breathing to slow, possibly to negligible levels - won't that run the risk of me not breathing in enough CO? Everything I've read doesn't talk about this, despite many advising benzos or sleeping pills in addition to CO so as to ease the process.
- I'm unsure whether I should use alcohol in addition to the benzos. The manual I linked says:
But I want to cover all my bases; if the alcohol could really increase the CNS depression of the benzos, that could be either good (if it makes me more peaceful) or bad (if it slows my breathing so much that I'm not inhaling enough CO to kill me, but not slowed enough to die from respiratory depression). For context, I've never drank before except for a little communion wine as a kid, so I have zero tolerance to alcohol. The alcohol I have is in the form of about 6 tiny bottles of something 10ml each, they say "20% alcohol (brandy)", and a 2oz bottle of something else which says it's 25% ethanol.Alcohol should be used only moderately in this method, because it dilates the finest blood vessels and thus could possibly counteract a hemoglobin blockade of the carbon monoxide, as experience at least vaguely suggests.
Hard to determine exactly how much actual alcohol this all amounts to, since the smaller bottles are ambiguous as to whether they mean 20% brandy or 20% actual ethanol (for those who don't know, alcoholic drinks are only partly comprised of actual drinkable alcohol (ethanol)). Google AI said: "Brandy typically contains between 35% and 60% ethanol by volume (ABV), which is equal to 70 to 120 US proof. However, the vast majority of commercial brandies—including Cognac, Armagnac, and standard fruit brandies—are bottled at exactly 40% ABV 80 proof."
So it looks like I've got 0.5oz of ethanol from the larger bottle (close to the 0.6oz ethanol per 1.5oz shot of hard liquor). Plus, let's say, 12ml of ethanol total from the other bottles, assuming each one is 40% ABV, which equals just a hair over 0.4oz ethanol. Totalling almost a whole ounce of ethanol. Someone please check me on this however, I'm pretty brainfogged.
So for me, someone with zero alcohol tolerance, what kind of effect would an ounce of alcohol (remember, a whole ounce of actual ethanol) have on me? Would it constrict my blood vessels and hinder the CO? Would it make the benzos suppress my breathing too much to breath in enough CO? Might it even make me vomit? Or would it just help things?
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