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beyondbreath

beyondbreath

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Nov 19, 2019
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I'm so depressed because my best friend (or "best friend") has changed a lot for the worse over the last three years and I don't know what to do.


We are both 27. Knew each other throughout elementary and high school. Kept close when I moved away. About three years ago my long term boyfriend broke up with me and she and her family helped me relocate to their city. I started to spend lots of time with her in person after 8 years of barely seeing her and only going up to her city for yearly visits for a few days at a time.


It happened slowly. Over time she would interrupt me more often, and say small, biting things. She either doesn't think she's being mean, or she enjoys it. She started to be more condescending and judgemental. For example, I'm fat. I also love her cat, who hates me. I was joking around about how much I love her cat (let's call the cat Kitty). She goes "yeah, you're Kitty's biggest fan. Kitty's BIGGEST" (puts her arms out in a round shape around her stomach) "fan". I was too shocked to do anything but laugh.


We went to a Chinese buffet with her family's exchange student and when the student was gone to get food, my friend leans in to whisper "oooh I see you have a plate of the blandest food possible". I'm paying 30$ for a buffet, yes I'm gonna load up on my spring rolls, rice, etc because that's what I like. I said nothing. Next plate I come back and it has some broccoli. She leans in "ooh a little colour". It was very condescending, rude, belittling, and now I never want to go back to that restaurant because every time I pass it all I think of is her words. She has made other similar comments about the food I make and eat before. I've never dared to say anything about the food she eats, even in jest. She would never let it slide and would bitch, become mean, or pout if I even dared to joke.


Lots and lots of little biting, condescending and mean things like the above have been said with increasing frequency over the last few years. Then there's the more egregious things, like I woke up really groggy at her place and her mom wasn't there. I muttered "huh has she gone grocery shopping?" Because I'm half asleep and her parents go grocery shopping often on the weekend. She fucking EXPLODES at me and screams "no!!!! She had chemo yesterday! Of course she's not grocery shopping!" I'm fucking flabbergasted at her literally screaming at me and say "you're being really rude" and she SCREAMS "YOU'RE RUDE!" Mind you, this was after she'd gone to bother her own mother to wake up and make her breakfast the day after a chemo treatment only a few weeks before. I'd been shocked at that, and it still disturbs me, I still hear her going to her sleeping exhausted mother "mom mom get up make me breakfast!" So her performative anger at my groggy mistake is extra absurd. She then went downstairs and pouted in her room.

Yes, I talked with her about it. Finally I got her to listen to me, about six(?) months ago and she said she was going to change. She was more pleasant for a few weeks but has gone back to her old self.


She's become arrogant and entitled. She straight up told me any man she dates has to have a job so they can take care of her when she gets older. She refuses to get a real job aside from her little side gigs that don't make enough money to "adult". She's lived with her parents for years now and doesn't have to do groceries, cook etc but she has absolutely no gratitude or awareness of her privilege. She is extremely out of touch, but thinks she's THE shit and most knowledgeable. This is in contrast to myself who has been on my own for almost ten years now. Yet she acts like she knows everything about "adulting" and it really gets on my nerves as someone who is ACTUALLY on my own.


Of course I never say shit because she can't handle any kind of disagreement.


Nobody is ever allowed to correct her, nobody can suggest she may be mistaken, nobody can express disagreement or she gets rude, pouty, or both. She has lost any and all semblance of humility yet loves to claim she's super empathetic. There's been times I pretended to be sick when she invited me over because I felt I couldn't handle her being mean to me if she decided to do so.



She got a new boyfriend right before my cat had to be put down and then ditched me for a month and a half, barely talked to me, despite knowing I was depressed as hell. She only finally started talking to me when I was honest when her mom reached out to ask how I was doing.



She didn't used to be this way. And sometimes pieces of the old her come through. For example joking around with memes, or when she drove me when I had to put my cat down. But she has lost all humility, she's become arrogant and entitled, and she's really my only friend where I live. She won't listen to anything I have to say, and I tried talking to her about this but her commitment to give a shit hasn't lasted.


I feel so lonely and like I'm mourning the friend I once had. I've never dealt with something like this before. Nobody is perfect but that doesn't mean I'm ok with how mean, entitled, and arrogant she's become. I don't know what to do.
OH and I forget to mention, for an extra dose of irony


A few months ago before she met her new man, she called me sobbing and begging me to promise I'd never abandon her (she had gotten cut off by her previous boyfriend). Just sobbing her heart out begging. I promised.
Guess that doesn't go both ways.
 
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Sometimes what a person revels is not so much a change but what was there all along. It is best to avoid toxic people. If one has already become involved, a slow separation can be a good strategy. We are all born helpless, ignorant, and selfish. Our parents are supposed to help us improve on this state. Your friend may have a longer way to go. Since she is not open to actual improvement, you may be left with looking out for yourself as a first priority.
 
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SoLowHollow48

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Nov 24, 2025
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Take it from someone who treated her ex/best friend of 7 years in depression like shit, it's better to cut people like this off. I was cut off too for being an asshole to her and it made sense. When you already have so much on your plate and you must also deal with a person like this??? Nah. It's better to break things off with them. Open yourself to others who are infinitely better than your current best friend. Sometimes, you must let someone go for them to understand where they went wrong.

Whatever has happened to her, it's not your business to fix anymore. She is an adult. You've tried and she kept batting your helping hand away. Time to dip. Sorry, OP. Some people you just shouldn't deal with anymore.
 
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calebzz1

What is it like to see single and clearly?
Jan 6, 2024
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I'm so depressed because my best friend (or "best friend") has changed a lot for the worse over the last three years and I don't know what to do.


We are both 27. Knew each other throughout elementary and high school. Kept close when I moved away. About three years ago my long term boyfriend broke up with me and she and her family helped me relocate to their city. I started to spend lots of time with her in person after 8 years of barely seeing her and only going up to her city for yearly visits for a few days at a time.


It happened slowly. Over time she would interrupt me more often, and say small, biting things. She either doesn't think she's being mean, or she enjoys it. She started to be more condescending and judgemental. For example, I'm fat. I also love her cat, who hates me. I was joking around about how much I love her cat (let's call the cat Kitty). She goes "yeah, you're Kitty's biggest fan. Kitty's BIGGEST" (puts her arms out in a round shape around her stomach) "fan". I was too shocked to do anything but laugh.


We went to a Chinese buffet with her family's exchange student and when the student was gone to get food, my friend leans in to whisper "oooh I see you have a plate of the blandest food possible". I'm paying 30$ for a buffet, yes I'm gonna load up on my spring rolls, rice, etc because that's what I like. I said nothing. Next plate I come back and it has some broccoli. She leans in "ooh a little colour". It was very condescending, rude, belittling, and now I never want to go back to that restaurant because every time I pass it all I think of is her words. She has made other similar comments about the food I make and eat before. I've never dared to say anything about the food she eats, even in jest. She would never let it slide and would bitch, become mean, or pout if I even dared to joke.


Lots and lots of little biting, condescending and mean things like the above have been said with increasing frequency over the last few years. Then there's the more egregious things, like I woke up really groggy at her place and her mom wasn't there. I muttered "huh has she gone grocery shopping?" Because I'm half asleep and her parents go grocery shopping often on the weekend. She fucking EXPLODES at me and screams "no!!!! She had chemo yesterday! Of course she's not grocery shopping!" I'm fucking flabbergasted at her literally screaming at me and say "you're being really rude" and she SCREAMS "YOU'RE RUDE!" Mind you, this was after she'd gone to bother her own mother to wake up and make her breakfast the day after a chemo treatment only a few weeks before. I'd been shocked at that, and it still disturbs me, I still hear her going to her sleeping exhausted mother "mom mom get up make me breakfast!" So her performative anger at my groggy mistake is extra absurd. She then went downstairs and pouted in her room.

Yes, I talked with her about it. Finally I got her to listen to me, about six(?) months ago and she said she was going to change. She was more pleasant for a few weeks but has gone back to her old self.


She's become arrogant and entitled. She straight up told me any man she dates has to have a job so they can take care of her when she gets older. She refuses to get a real job aside from her little side gigs that don't make enough money to "adult". She's lived with her parents for years now and doesn't have to do groceries, cook etc but she has absolutely no gratitude or awareness of her privilege. She is extremely out of touch, but thinks she's THE shit and most knowledgeable. This is in contrast to myself who has been on my own for almost ten years now. Yet she acts like she knows everything about "adulting" and it really gets on my nerves as someone who is ACTUALLY on my own.


Of course I never say shit because she can't handle any kind of disagreement.


Nobody is ever allowed to correct her, nobody can suggest she may be mistaken, nobody can express disagreement or she gets rude, pouty, or both. She has lost any and all semblance of humility yet loves to claim she's super empathetic. There's been times I pretended to be sick when she invited me over because I felt I couldn't handle her being mean to me if she decided to do so.



She got a new boyfriend right before my cat had to be put down and then ditched me for a month and a half, barely talked to me, despite knowing I was depressed as hell. She only finally started talking to me when I was honest when her mom reached out to ask how I was doing.



She didn't used to be this way. And sometimes pieces of the old her come through. For example joking around with memes, or when she drove me when I had to put my cat down. But she has lost all humility, she's become arrogant and entitled, and she's really my only friend where I live. She won't listen to anything I have to say, and I tried talking to her about this but her commitment to give a shit hasn't lasted.


I feel so lonely and like I'm mourning the friend I once had. I've never dealt with something like this before. Nobody is perfect but that doesn't mean I'm ok with how mean, entitled, and arrogant she's become. I don't know what to do.
OH and I forget to mention, for an extra dose of irony


A few months ago before she met her new man, she called me sobbing and begging me to promise I'd never abandon her (she had gotten cut off by her previous boyfriend). Just sobbing her heart out begging. I promised.
Guess that doesn't go both ways.
I'm sorry to hear that your best friend changed.

I can definitely relate to this post, my best friend years ago kept pressuring myself to learn how to drive constantly which was fine at first but quickly got old over time.

I had to be honest and state that I didn't like that controlling behavior and everything is fine now.

Other than that, I have an excellent friend group but unfortunately I put everything on hiatus with them due to my visual impairment.

I physically can't do the activities they would like for myself to do, have updated them over time of course regarding everything but nothing has changed.

I found it pretty hilarious how she came back after her relationship failed, not to be insensitive.

People put way too much time into relationships and when it backfires have no back-up plan in the process.

Also, your best friend has to be grateful for what she has around her.

I have to be because I'm very limited on what I can actually do due to my poor vision.

I always accept other's advice, being humble has helped so much in terms of setting up my disability case.

That last sentence was profound because my best friend had an excellent quote, "Respect goes both ways." and I still like it to this day.
 
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beyondbreath

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Nov 19, 2019
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Hey everyone, I really appreciate your kind words. Thanks for letting me just whine about the situation. I know it may not seem that serious but for me it matters a lot because I don't have a lot of people in my life, and I'm devastated. It makes me want to cry. I have a genuine gratitude and love for those in my life and so it's incredibly painful for me.
 
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calebzz1

What is it like to see single and clearly?
Jan 6, 2024
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Hey everyone, I really appreciate your kind words. Thanks for letting me just whine about the situation. I know it may not seem that serious but for me it matters a lot because I don't have a lot of people in my life, and I'm devastated. It makes me want to cry. I have a genuine gratitude and love for those in my life and so it's incredibly painful for me.
Of course, I can heavily relate.

I remember last Thanksgiving my best friend invited me over to his house and I wanted to go but the reality was is that my vision was too bad.

I'm working hard to improve my overall condition so I can go back to my old hobbies but don't know when it will happen.
 
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endlesstranquility

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Everything to get awa-wwwwy!!!
 
beyondbreath

beyondbreath

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Nov 19, 2019
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Almost a month later and nothing has changed. She's cancelled 2/3 of the plans we made and barely talks to me. It's very painful this time of year especially as the very little family I have left is too far away. I spend Christmas with her family for that reason but I'm feeling so incredibly bitter. I wrote the most generic merry Christmas message in the cards for her, I felt no joy wrapping her gifts. I want to cry but there's just nothing left. Her mother made a huge deal about how I'm her daughter now, blah blah, when I moved there's even told my neighbour that I'm her new daughter when I was moving in. Guess if she's reached out to see how I'm doing? Take a wild guess, everyone.
 
beyondbreath

beyondbreath

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Nov 19, 2019
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I'm honestly so fucking done

Basically my "best friend" got another man and of course ditched me immediately, again. Never answering my messages. Never reaching out.

When I finally broke she at first was apologetic then when I didn't immediately forgive her she went bitch mode and tried to act like I'd done something wrong. I think her mom was fueling this as well as her mom thinks her "widdle gwurl uwu" can do no wrong so when I mentioned it to her she told me that I should put away my "pride" and forgive her for the years of bullying and rudeness because "it's in the past". Bitch the only reason it's in the "past" is because your daughter stopped talking to me so she had no opportunity to make fun of my weight, food, interrupt me constantly and constantly invalidate everything I say. That's kinda what happens when you stop talking to someone because you found a dick to bounce on.

We "reconciled" which basically means I have given up. I've decided that when I see her I will try to be happy but I'm done chasing her and I'm done asking her to act like an adult who gives a shit about her "best friend" beyond using me for her dopamine addiction (whether through her letting out her bitchiness on me like a punching bag or when I have the rare thing to say that she actually cares about). She claims she "doesn't even know she's doing it" when she insults my weight or food I eat. Like you're 28 years old?!?!?! Were you not parented correctly and now bullying people is just your baseline? Did your mom just let you bully her with no discipline? Come on. And if it's an issue of not being able to think before you speak your thoughts, why the fuck are you having such mean and demeaning thoughts about your "best friend" like that in the first place??? We "compromised" that I will point out to her when she is saying mean and insensitive things but I have little faith considering any attempt in the past to do so has resulted in her A) saying something meaner back or B) pouting like a little boy. I'm done walking on eggshells around her while she gets to say whatever she wants to whoever she wants. She's bullied her mother into submission and people are becoming shocked now that I have grown a backbone for the first time in my life. It's this new job, where I'm not abused and disrespected. Over the last year I've developed self respect and a back bone and people are taken aback now that I'm done taking their bullshit. Yeah, that's my "pride". Deciding I deserve better than to be constantly interrupted, invalidated, the butt of jokes and careless bitching.

I'm not saying I'm perfect. Nobody is. But I'm sure as hell not bullying my "best friend", making excuses, ditching people for the next shiny new dick, etc. I really hope that she learns her lesson eventually. When the shiny new relationship sparkle wears off and he doesn't cause her to have as much dopamine, she'll start to verbally abuse him too and I hope to god he doesn't take that shit lying down. Until someone she actually respects stands up to her and shows her consequences for her actions (like her mother apparently never did) she's gonna keep doing this to whoever she can because her mother has taught her that it's acceptable by taking everything lying down.

I'm so angry at them both
 
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kompyany

I refuse to be shaped by the world.
Aug 16, 2026
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Hey, I know it must be really painful when your best friend becomes rude and dismissive, especially after she got a boyfriend and started neglecting your friendship. I don't want to excuse her behavior, but I'd like to offer a few possible perspectives. Friendships are often phase-specific—your connection was built on shared experiences and daily interactions, and just as those have faded over the years, so has your bond. She might have gone through various ups and downs in life that changed her personality (in fact, I became more sharp and harsh myself after being diagnosed with bipolar disorder, sometimes without even realizing how much I hurt others). As for her distancing you after getting a boyfriend, I can understand why that feels difficult. Love and friendship aren't all that different, and perhaps it's not the relationship itself that bothers you, but rather her attitude toward love. If spending time with her makes you uncomfortable, maybe try shifting your focus—treat her like an ordinary person. And if it still feels too painful, consider reducing the frequency of your interactions.
 
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beyondbreath

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Hey, I know it must be really painful when your best friend becomes rude and dismissive, especially after she got a boyfriend and started neglecting your friendship. I don't want to excuse her behavior, but I'd like to offer a few possible perspectives. Friendships are often phase-specific—your connection was built on shared experiences and daily interactions, and just as those have faded over the years, so has your bond. She might have gone through various ups and downs in life that changed her personality (in fact, I became more sharp and harsh myself after being diagnosed with bipolar disorder, sometimes without even realizing how much I hurt others). As for her distancing you after getting a boyfriend, I can understand why that feels difficult. Love and friendship aren't all that different, and perhaps it's not the relationship itself that bothers you, but rather her attitude toward love. If spending time with her makes you uncomfortable, maybe try shifting your focus—treat her like an ordinary person. And if it still feels too painful, consider reducing the frequency of your interactions.
Yeah I've reduced how much I interact with her and have reached out to find new friends. It just hurts me so much
 

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