Discussion 'Most people who try to commit suicide are angry'... Do you agree?

[Forever Sleep]

Recently watched a documentary on suicides from the Golden Gate bridge (called 'Death Leap'- on YouTube). A psychiatrist in it said 'it's hard to say whether they're more defiant, more angry or not because I think most people who try to commit suicide are angry.'

It got me thinking. I wouldn't consider myself a particularly angry person. I'm fairly placid in behaviour at least. Still, I wonder if the part of me that wants to end it all is angry. Angry just to have this life that I'm expected to keep going at and fulfill all the shitty expectations society places on us. I was curious to see how other people felt? I guess most of us feel depressed on some level but how many of you think the desire to end it all comes from anger?

 

[Doombox]

It's difficult to leave anger out of the list anytime someone takes such drastic negative action, but no, anger is not my reason. Hopelessness is my reason.

The old saw used to be that depression is anger turned inwards. I don't know if that's still the party line, but if it is, then maybe that qualifies? But I find that psychiatrist fairly out of touch.

 

[Hope:-)]

Am I angry? I'm angry because I can't get N. Now that is true. I'm angry about.the method I have to use instead.

About life in general.. I'm just really really sad more than anything else.x

 

[outrider567]

No, no anger, just total defeat

 

[Superdeterminist]

No, I don't know about the mental states of other people. But personally, yes I'm incredibly angry, I despise the universe for what it has allowed and continues to allow.

 

[Julgran]

Recently watched a documentary on suicides from the Golden Gate bridge (called 'Death Leap'- on YouTube). A psychiatrist in it said 'it's hard to say whether they're more defiant, more angry or not because I think most people who try to commit suicide are angry.'

It got me thinking. I wouldn't consider myself a particularly angry person. I'm fairly placid in behaviour at least. Still, I wonder if the part of me that wants to end it all is angry. Angry just to have this life that I'm expected to keep going at and fulfill all the shitty expectations society places on us. I was curious to see how other people felt? I guess most of us feel depressed on some level but how many of you think the desire to end it all comes from anger?

It could be true that most people who end their lives are angry - I don't have any statistics on that - but it certainly isn't the only root cause of suicide. I would imagine that depression and sadness are far more common root causes, though.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

Sure. I supposed there's underlying anger. Is that the root cause? I don't know.

 

[IanUK]

To an extent I agree although for me I'm not so much angry as I have always wondered about the point of life and humanity. Since I was a child I've not really warmed to other people. I've never been a team player and have always been happier without other people. Humanity angers me in how we behave and his pathetic we are as a species. The problem is 99.99999% of currently living humans are a waste of oxygen and resources. Our species throws up a tiny minority of worthwhile creatures, the rest are born live and die having done nothing more than spawned. For me suicide is an exit strategy to be used when I'm seriously Ill of I've can't be bothered anymore. If I get seriously sick I have a living will, no treatment, pain reduction and death. Luckily I've managed to accumulate over 100 opioids so I think there are more than enough to check out. I should never have been born, I'm a biological mistake but make the best of being stuck on this planet with billions of creatures I can't stand. Yeah I'm angry but for me that's not the reason I will check out.

 

[Ash’Girl]

I've never really been predisposed to anger (probably even when I should). I mean, I guess some people ctb as a final fuck you, it's possible, but not at all the only factor.

Mostly I'm just tired and it's the absence of hope.

 

[Un-]

Ironically, it's this type of shite that annoys me. I'm not the.. Philosophical, all-knowing type, but I do know that regarding suicide and mental illness, you cannot group people together. You can't "stereotype" because it's so different for so many people.

It's this type of thinking that's.. Causing so much tension. Because a handful of people found x, y and x medication helpful, now everyone's fucking taking them and, surprise surprise, quite a lot of people are fucked up more because of them. Same thing with psychiatric wards, psychologists, therapists - the list goes on.. Treating the symptoms instead of the problem.

 

[Doombox]

It's *possible* that a group that chose leaping off the Golden Gate Bridge self-selects for anger since that is a drastic method. I mean, I can't even imagine it; my SI would be off the charts.

 

[ineverlived]

daily tasks makes me angry

 

[betternever2havbeen]

Yeh I suppose with me it's anger quite a bit-my dad and grandad died of cancer-that makes me angry, what sort of fucked up world tortures you with cancer before you die? I'm angry at the doctors and hospital who screwed up, angry at myself for not speaking up more. Angry I got put in all those positions. It even makes me angry that other people downplay suffering and pain, it amazes me. So yeh it's time to go, I don't fit in this world because I'm never gonna accept suffering. Happy to leave all the pro-lifers and everyone who loves life behind to enjoy it.

Couldn't speak for others though but I don't think the "experts" really know what goes on in our heads or why we feel the way we do. There are probably many reasons.

 

[Hurt]

Maybe. When I want to ctb impulsively I'm angry.

 

[jossstick]

Although I'm not a particularly angry person, I probably have a certain amount of anger towards some things. I would say that utter sadness far outweighs this though. And it's a sadness I cannot live with, and don't want to live with, and one that cannot be relieved in life. ctb is the only answer for me.

 

[Euthanza]

Am I angry? I'm angry because I can't get N. Now that is true. I'm angry about.the method I have to use instead.

About life in general.. I'm just really really sad more than anything else.x

I second this. Bill Maher — 'Suicide is man's way of telling God, 'You can't fire me - I quit!' kind of a rebel angst.

I must admit I'm a bit angry with the (religious) society in general, but on top of that I'm just sad and disappointed of my own circumstances of not being able to secure a peaceful end.

 

[Mixo]

I would hold anything a psychiatrist says about suicidal people at some level of skepticism. I'm no psychiatrist, but I'm willing to bet most suicidal people are probably more angry with themselves than other people.

 

[FuneralCry]

It's impossible to know how people really felt when they were planning ctb. I think that the emotions experienced differ between the person as we are all in different situations and have individual reasons as to why we are considering ctb. In my opinion, you cannot really make generalisations about the emotion that suicidal people feel. I have no anger at all personally, just tiredness. I do think that it would be understandable if a lot of people who ctb were angry, as after all life is so unfair and many people are basically forced to this point due to circumstances out of their control.

 

[Lily (Osako)]

I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm not in the least bit angry.

 

[Insomniac]

I certainly am very angry. but I haven't killed myself yet so I can't tell for sure.

 

[WhatPowerIs]

What do they say? "Depression is rage turned inward"? I don't know. I'm angry alright, that's for sure.

 

[Lost Magic]

I'm angry, hopeless, sad, lonely and just flat out tired. You can feel a whole range of emotions when you are suicidal. It takes its toll on the whole body.

 

[Allonzee]

While I think a lot of attempts are done in anger and as a desire to hurt and draw the attention of others, I believe the quiet suicides, the ones where the method was a full measure, where they didn't start loudly handing out possessions, etc were mostly done by those that were past anger and into resignation, a form of acceptance that A) the world and/or your situation is immovable and B) living in said immovable world has become torture without any available reprieve in life.

 

[Anonymous1997ES]

I guess... I have a huge amount of repressed anger, and if I ever were to lose control, I would make sure to kill myself, I think it's for the best if I hurt myself rather than someone else...

I'm angry at my former bullies, as well as some people I used to know... But I'm mostly angry at myself, as I ruined my life with my own actions...

 

[slushy]

Somewhat? I guess. I'm angry at the way things are in society, but the red hot fire of my anger has mostly faded into embers and ash of hopelessness and resignation to my fate.

 

[Mia Wallace]

No I'm exhausted, I used to be angry at life and now I'm just at the point of accepting each day will be the same as it has been for decades, so the only anger I really have I suppose is how difficult it is to ctb

 

[LaVieEnRose]

There are undoubtedly many people who CTB for whom anger isn't a significant factor. I'm pretty angry and bitter myself. As tough as these feelings are I remind myself those feelings will disappear when I die.

 

[dreambound]

I would guess anger would play a part for many along with every other emotion.
Anger comes into the equation for me because of the disillusionment of having to un-learn all the propoganda dished
out at schools & media during my naieve youth, & seeing the reality of societies calculated onslaught against the environment, making the world increasingly uninhabitable, & the quality of life increasingly unacceptable for most of us. I have differculty in seeing any change from the present
policy of milking the land & sea for all its worth.....

 

[lights_are_on]

I don't feel anything tbh. I get angry sometimes, sad, scared. Most days nothing, I'm not even sure what I am feeling. i don't care to feel anything other than being tired of existence. Worn down, I just don't care for it all

 

[rationaltake]

I just refuse to accept the bad hand I've been dealt. So I want to fold.