⚠️ UK Access Block Notice: Beginning July 1, 2025, this site will no longer be accessible from the United Kingdom. This is a voluntary decision made by the site's administrators. We were not forced or ordered to implement this block.
The American Clinicians' Academy for Medical Aid in Dying, which developed the drug mixture that is used in US states where medical aid in dying is allowed, calls for 15 grams of morphine — and that is along with 4 other drugs (digoxin 100mg, diazepam 1g, amitriptyline 8g, phenobarbital 5g). I am afraid 600 mg won't be enough.
Reactions:
yellowjasminegoing, Noctuidaee and not_actually_human
The American Clinicians' Academy for Medical Aid in Dying, which developed the drug mixture that is used in US states where medical aid in dying is allowed, calls for 15 grams of morphine — and that is along with 4 other drugs (digoxin 100mg, diazepam 1g, amitriptyline 8g, phenobarbital 5g). I am afraid 600 mg won't be enough.
Unless if getting 17g of phenobarbital (I've read 16's the most anyone has ever recovered from ingesting phenobarbital) is more difficult than getting 15g of Morphine plus the other 4 drugs, wouldn't it be better to just get 17g of phenobarbital and make sure no one can find you for 3 days? Or does the combination of the 5 drugs you've mentioned above help speed up the process and/or make it less painful?
Unless if getting 17g of phenobarbital (I've read 16's the most anyone has ever recovered from ingesting phenobarbital) is more difficult than getting 15g of Morphine plus the other 4 drugs, wouldn't it be better to just get 17g of phenobarbital and make sure no one can find you for 3 days? Or does the combination of the 5 drugs you've mentioned above help speed up the process and/or make it less painful?
According to the evidence collected by the American Clinicians' Academy for Medical Aid in Dying, the average time to death after ingesting the DDMAPh mixture is 1.23 h, with 85% of people dying under 2 h and a maximum of 10 h (although an extreme outlier died after 19 h).
Compared to DDMA, the addition of 5 g phenobarbital (Ph) slightly speeds up death (mean 1.2 h vs 1.5 h). However, as explained in the PPeH, the bulk of the work is handled by the combination of the respiratory depression caused by morphine overdose and the cardiotoxicity of digoxin and amitriptyline overdoses. The latter is not a feature of phenobarbital.
Acquiring 17 g of phenobarbital may be easier than acquiring 15 g of morphine but I am not sure it is reliable and fast enough on its own.
This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.