Mixing kratom and alcohol as suicide method?

[Meatismoz]

I've read a lot of stories about decently young people dying in their sleep from this combo cuz it suppresses your breathing

I know it's not the same level as actual opioids but it's way easier to access

Ive mixed the two before but hours apart and never high doses at the same time

Thoughts on how reliable this would be and the risk of any brain damage / effects besides dying?

 

[LastNite]

Kratom is legal no? just like a couple weeks ago I saw an ad on a vape shop saying Kratom 7o or o7 or whatever they name it.

 

[eternalpace]

Kratom is legal no? just like a couple weeks ago I saw an ad on a vape shop saying Kratom 7o or o7 or whatever they name it.

It's legal in most areas. The local gas station sells it.

 

[OzymandiAsh]

Even in the UK it's legal but I've not heard of it being possible to suicide with it.

I've read a lot of stories about decently young people dying in their sleep from this combo cuz it suppresses your breathing

I know it's not the same level as actual opioids but it's way easier to access

Ive mixed the two before but hours apart and never high doses at the same time

Thoughts on how reliable this would be and the risk of any brain damage / effects besides dying?

Actually grok says there are some stories like that. Where are you finding them?

Would be kinda difficult to consume the amount of kratom needed, I think. Would have to drink a lot of kratom tea unless there was some other way of taking it.

 

[RunDown]

The amount of kratom to consume would be ridiculous. You would puke before you ever could reach a lethal amount. Washing it down with liquor won't help much. You'll pass out and wake up feeling like shit. Don't be cruel to yourself.

 

[Dr.Duck]

Kratom is legal no? just like a couple weeks ago I saw an ad on a vape shop saying Kratom 7o or o7 or whatever they name it.

The type you're thinking of is 7oh, Kratom is the leaf and leaf powder. 7oh is a very strong version of Kratom. Think of it as coco leafs and cocaine. Well coco leafs are used to make cocaine. Coco leafs aren't nearly as bad for you as coke is. Kratom the leaf is very similar but to a lesser extreme.

I'd highly recommend watching this video if you want to know more about it.

Even in the UK it's legal but I've not heard of it being possible to suicide with it.

Actually grok says there are some stories like that. Where are you finding them?

Would be kinda difficult to consume the amount of kratom needed, I think. Would have to drink a lot of kratom tea unless there was some other way of taking it.

There are pills of it that are very strong. That's the way I think the OP was talking about if that helps

 

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[ineed2gosoon]

Even in the UK it's legal but I've not heard of it being possible to suicide with it.

Actually grok says there are some stories like that. Where are you finding them?

Would be kinda difficult to consume the amount of kratom needed, I think. Would have to drink a lot of kratom tea unless there was some other way of taking it.

I think there are kratom capsules, but I still dont think it would be a viable method to ctb

 

[softgirlluna]

As far as I can tell, the reason that mixing alcohol and kratom can be fatal is because they increase sedation. And the death (if it came) would be from choking on vomit. I've taken lotsa benzos mixed with lotsa booze before (many a time) in a half arsed attempt to quit living and am still kicking.


So probably not a pleasant way to go and not a guarantee, just risky whichever way you look at it. Stay safe.

 

[Meatismoz]

The amount of kratom to consume would be ridiculous. You would puke before you ever could reach a lethal amount. Washing it down with liquor won't help much. You'll pass out and wake up feeling like shit. Don't be cruel to yourself.

It's not about overdosing on kratom it's about the combo of alcohol and kratom. Ppl have died from mixing 8 grams and 7 beers at once and going to sleep

Even in the UK it's legal but I've not heard of it being possible to suicide with it.

Actually grok says there are some stories like that. Where are you finding them?

Would be kinda difficult to consume the amount of kratom needed, I think. Would have to drink a lot of kratom tea unless there was some other way of taking it.

I've taken 20 grams of kratom in a few hours when I was binging just by mixing it up in a shake. You can easily take 10 grams in a small shake and it won't taste bad at all

1 banana
1 tablespoon of sunflower butter
1 cup almond milk
Zero sugar vanilla sweetener syrup
Then the kratom powder measured out

Is what I use

As far as I can tell, the reason that mixing alcohol and kratom can be fatal is because they increase sedation. And the death (if it came) would be from choking on vomit. I've taken lotsa benzos mixed with lotsa booze before (many a time) in a half arsed attempt to quit living and am still kicking.


So probably not a pleasant way to go and not a guarantee, just risky whichever way you look at it. Stay safe.

You can die from respiratory arrest in your sleep from shallow breathing alone you 100% do not need to vomit and choke on it

 

[OzymandiAsh]

Even in the UK it's legal but I've not heard of it being possible to suicide with it.

Actually grok says there are some stories like that. Where are you finding them?

Would be kinda difficult to consume the amount of kratom needed, I think. Would have to drink a lot of kratom tea unless there was some other way of taking it.

edit: not legal in the UK, but easy to get still.

 

[broken serenity]

Dramamine original formula, not the non drowsy one, is also an easy to access drug that retards your automatic breathing. Would not recommend anything that fucks with breathing *temporarily* tho. You could just wake up with brain and liver damage.

 

[OzymandiAsh]

It's not about overdosing on kratom it's about the combo of alcohol and kratom. Ppl have died from mixing 8 grams and 7 beers at once and going to sleep

I've taken 20 grams of kratom in a few hours when I was binging just by mixing it up in a shake. You can easily take 10 grams in a small shake and it won't taste bad at all

1 banana
1 tablespoon of sunflower butter
1 cup almond milk
Zero sugar vanilla sweetener syrup
Then the kratom powder measured out

Is what I use

Interesting. I don't think there's enough data on kratom to determine a reliable lethal range tho. You're welcome to try it and let us know

 

[RadiantNumber]

PsychonautWiki tells it is a dangerous combo but idk

Kratom

Mitragyna speciosa (also known as kratom) is a tropical tree of the coffee family indigenous to South East Asia.[1] The leaves of M. speciosa contain various psychoactive alkaloids that produce mild stimulant and opioid effects.[1] The pharmacology of kratom is complex, although it produces its...

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[Meatismoz]

Interesting. I don't think there's enough data on kratom to determine a reliable lethal range tho. You're welcome to try it and let us know

Bro. It is not about looking for a lethal dosage. Kratom alone hasn't killed anyone