Method methods by easy to obtain chemicals

[chemicalctb]

being the chemist in here i'd like to tell you guys about methods to ctb with commonly found chemicals.
the goal is to stop the heart or stop oxygen flow so that the death is not painful.

1) its easy to get a heart attack by consuming caffeine, buy pure powdered caffeine online(its really cheap and available/legal) mix more than 20g of it( the LD50 is 200mg/kg but the more the better, to be sure) and drink it, you'll get a heart attack and ctb.
2) CO poisoning, just buy H2SO4(sulfuric acid) and HCOOH(formic acid) you can buy them online from anywhere easily, the H2SO4 dehydrates the formic acid and liberates carbon monoxide, mix and heat as much of them as u can in an airtight(closed windows and all) preferrably small room, you will feel sleepy and then never wake up. make sure u are by yourself as it needs about 30mins before you lose conciousness(someone who was posting on a group a couple of years ago did it and was updating us periodically, he didnt mention any problems we just found out from news when he died, so 0 pain, he was from the Netherlands, i guess Limburg or Leiden area if memory serves me right.
3)buy a nitrogen cylinder tank, open it in an airtight place or preferrably in a small box with u in it, you will just drift into a deep sleep and die.
4) potassium chloride, you can buy it anywhere as powder, just dissolve it and inject it to get your heart stopping, the potassium is what does it, chloride is just a counter anion.
5) if you can get your hands on sodium cyanide and ingest it on a clear stomach(to insure high acidity) HCN will form in your stomach and you will die without any pain since u wont be able to feel your cells getting deprived from oxygen via the CN biding to the cytochrome-C-oxidase of your cells, lethal dose can be 1.5g as documented by David Q. Conibear who caught the bus on Friday, October 2, 1992 after writing his final note on ashspace. just make sure you have enough time alone when you do this. and make sure u want to go because once ingest the cyanide its a 97% chance of lethality in the coming 2 minutes.
6) drinking some lighter fluid is a way to ctb but its not a nice ending if you're considering it.
7)you can always OD on drugs(or the byproducts of making them), but i wont discuss that here since thats illegal.
i hope i helped and feel free to ask me any questions

 

[BurningLights]

Do you think being in benzos withdrawal would effect any of these methods?
My stomach/digestive system is fucked. I'm guessing it wouldn't be a good idea to consume orally, who knows of the complications. Like, in sure the acidity level in my stomach is out of whack.
Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

 

[chemicalctb]

im not sure to be honest, but to be safe id go with CO poisoning since i have no idea if the CN with benzo will react in the stomach, however with KCl through the blood stream your heart will definitly stop, same with caffeine, which will eventually get absorbed no matter the benzo problem. to be safe in your situation i wouldnt go with Sodium Cyanide

 

[chemicalctb]

i was just dealt my final blow an hour ago, just checking overdosage limits on meds i have in my cabinet and ill catch that bus, that bus has many friends and i just want to catch it already

 

[Shewaitsforme]

Hi, are you in the US or UK?

 

[chemicalctb]

Hi, are you in the US or UK?

neither, im from lebanon

 

[Smashingairwaves]

What would mixing caffeine powder with SN do?

 

[Jenna]

I'm curious too. I'm also in Benzo withdrawal taking a small amount that I've been stalled on this taper. I don't have gut issues but the anxiety depression and a host of other mental symptoms is debilitating.

 

[BurningLights]

im not sure to be honest, but to be safe id go with CO poisoning since i have no idea if the CN with benzo will react in the stomach, however with KCl through the blood stream your heart will definitly stop, same with caffeine, which will eventually get absorbed no matter the benzo problem. to be safe in your situation i wouldnt go with Sodium Cyanide

Thank you for answering, that's kinda what I thought, hopefully this helpful to others out there.
Peace my friend.

 

[Arak]

Lebanon ... some countries are easier. I´m in Europe.

I looked quickly, and there are chemical suppliers that sell those substances. Only a quick look, but usually anything dangerous is highly regulated. One local h2so4 supplier doesn´t sell to individuals. I didn´t see it on Ebay Europe. USA is often easier ...

Anyone, solutions ? CO is good.

' caffeine´ while possible, I wouldn´t be sure it´s so reliable. I didn´t check. Heart attacks are extreme experiences.

Nitrogen ) volume ...

Potassium chloride , sounds easier and more reliable than it seems. It may work, it´s bloody painful.

Cyanide ... if only. I don´t want to be rude by calling Lebanon a third world country (is it ?), but I´m sure everything is not as regulated over there as it is here.

 

[chemicalctb]

What would mixing caffeine powder with SN do?

TLDR: in water under standard temps a quick look at their structures tells me they will not react with eachother.

long version: caffeine as a molecule is stable enough and the nitrogen on the NO2- is not nucleophilic enough(because of the Os pulling electron density away from it) to attack the carbonyl carbon of the ring(the most electrophilic carbon in the molecule), any attack from an oxygen is also not possible since it would make the resulting molecule really unstable and thus unfavorable under standard conditions.however i could not find any study that mixed them and then identified the new compounds in the mixture(if any).

 

[TAW122]

Very nice methods. I would personally go with #2, #3, and #5 as I have low pain tolerance and don't like to feel nausea and stuff. I'm still going via a firearm, but these are good backup methods assuming that I am able to procure them.

 

[chemicalctb]

Lebanon ... some countries are easier. I´m in Europe.

I looked quickly, and there are chemical suppliers that sell those substances. Only a quick look, but usually anything dangerous is highly regulated. One local h2so4 supplier doesn´t sell to individuals. I didn´t see it on Ebay Europe. USA is often easier ...

Anyone, solutions ? CO is good.

' caffeine´ while possible, I wouldn´t be sure it´s so reliable. I didn´t check. Heart attacks are extreme experiences.

Nitrogen ) volume ...

Potassium chloride , sounds easier and more reliable than it seems. It may work, it´s bloody painful.

Cyanide ... if only. I don´t want to be rude by calling Lebanon a third world country (is it ?), but I´m sure everything is not as regulated over there as it is here.

yes its a 4th world country dont get me wrong, you do have good points let me elaborate:
for H2SO4 the guy who caught the bus was able to buy it, he was from the netherlands, not sure about other suppliers but you should be able to get your hands on them if you look hard enough, otherwise just go with charcoal, many threads about it here.

caffeine works at inducing a heart attack when taken in large quantities of above a couple grams as pure caffeine(thats why it should be pure powder), a quick google search of caffeine overdose shows some instances.

i wrote about the nitrogen method but i was unaware that there were people who already had threads about it here, they buy a small cylinder i think its name was max dog or something, you're right while they probably cant buy large cylinders, here its less regulated and we can.

KCl, it works, otherwise they wouldnt use it in capital punishment, as long as your heart stops you wont feel much after that, not that its painful by itself, just a regular heart stoppage from potassium. in case you werent able to purchase it, you can find it in any electrochemistry lab, its used as a solution to keep the reference electrode of (Ag/AgCl) functioning.

as for Cyanide, i assumed people who worked or were associated to labs were the only ones who had access to it, not really sure if you can buy it directly, but you can probably get it from about 100 apples or less(the more the merrier though), just grind their seeds and eat them(the grinded seeds).

 

[BurningLights]

as for Cyanide, i assumed people who worked or were associated to labs were the only ones who had access to it, not really sure if you can buy it directly, but you can probably get it from about 100 apples or less(the more the merrier though), just grind their seeds and eat them

Hold up, your telling me I could have just saved all those seeds?
I've had conversations here and the cyanide idea has always just fizzled out, it just didn't seem viable.

 

[Johnnythefox]

Hold up, your telling me I could have just saved all those seeds?
I've had conversations here and the cyanide idea has always just fizzled out, it just didn't seem viable.

I did a bit of research on this before joining here it seems to be quite a viable method, if you Google it there's a lot about it. Different seeds have different toxicity levels also.

 

[Bex83]

No way you can buy potassium chloride powder! To easy, give me a place where you could get that. Everyone would buy that! Especially with medical knowledge

 

[BurningLights]

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I did a bit of research on this before joining here it seems to be quite a viable method, if you Google it there's a lot about it. Different seeds have different toxicity levels also.

How the hell did I miss that, I fucking love green gages, would have happily eaten them all day if I knew the result.
Bolocks.
Good info for others though. Appreciated!

 

[BurningLights]

No way you can buy potassium chloride powder! To easy, give me a place where you could get that. Everyone would buy that! Especially with medical knowledge

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Now-Foods-Potassium-Chloride-Powder/dp/B00028M02Q
;)

 

[Johnnythefox]

I went to buy a load of plums or Apricots about a month ago and nowhere had them.

 

[BurningLights]

I went to buy a load of plums or Apricots about a month ago and nowhere had them.

UK? Out of season I would have thought.

 

[Johnnythefox]

Need to read up on this..

 

[Johnnythefox]

UK? Out of season I would have thought.

Now I have a useless tank of balloon helium in my wardrobe..

 

[Bex83]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Now-Foods-Potassium-Chloride-Powder/dp/B00028M02Q
;)

Think this might work then?

 

[Johnnythefox]

 

[BurningLights]

Think this might work then?

Personally, no idea! Never researched it. Could be, but it needs to be done intravenously? Mmm, I'll pass for now.

@Johnnythefox can't believe I skipped over it, maybe it just seemed like to much work at the time.

 

[Bex83]

I know when I worked at a hospital insulin was ready available, nearly did this, but was nearly caught! Sure plenty of people could get there hands on this. Low bloods equals coma.

 

[BurningLights]

I know when I worked at a hospital insulin was ready available, nearly did this, but was nearly caught! Sure plenty of people could get there hands on this. Low bloods equals coma.

Definitely viable options

 

[Arak]

@chemicalctb ,

2) CO poisoning, just buy H2SO4(sulfuric acid) and HCOOH(formic acid) you can buy them online from anywhere easily, the H2SO4 dehydrates the formic acid and liberates carbon monoxide, mix and heat as much of them as u can in an airtight(closed windows and all) preferrably small room, you will feel sleepy and then never wake up. make sure u are by yourself as it needs about 30mins before you lose conciousness(someone who was posting on a group a couple of years ago did it and was updating us periodically, he didnt mention any problems we just found out from news when he died, so 0 pain, he was from the Netherlands, i guess Limburg or Leiden area if memory serves me right.

I might be able to get H2So4, even though there are restrictions. I don't know, I'd have to be lying. Is there actually an an apropriate procdure for this rather than winging it ? What's the medod, specifics ? Just heating the stuff ... is there an actual description of the procedure/process ?

 

[Darbund]

as for Cyanide, i assumed people who worked or were associated to labs were the only ones who had access to it, not really sure if you can buy it directly, but you can probably get it from about 100 apples or less(the more the merrier though), just grind their seeds and eat them(the grinded seeds).

So you are telling me that if I buy lets say 5kg of apples in my local fruit store and save the seed I could make a powder with enough mg of cyanide to ctb?

 

[Exit]

5) if you can get your hands on sodium cyanide and ingest it on a clear stomach(to insure high acidity) HCN will form in your stomach and you will die without any pain since u wont be able to feel your cells getting deprived from oxygen via the CN biding to the cytochrome-C-oxidase of your cells, lethal dose can be 1.5g as documented by David Q. Conibear who caught the bus on Friday, October 2, 1992 after writing his final note on ashspace. just make sure you have enough time alone when you do this. and make sure u want to go because once ingest the cyanide its a 97% chance of lethality in the coming 2 minutes.

So this is what i can buy online. If i take 1.5g of this i'll die?
Should i mix it with water and drink or just straight?
Would there be any internal damage if i fail?