starrvingstar

starrvingstar

suicidal anorexic
Apr 9, 2023
141
men scare me

was exploring a new porn website tonight and the amount of terrible boyfriends, complete assholes and disgusting human beings are being supported on the website and in the comments with disgusting things. most guys dont know where the line is crossed. some can balance their two personalities but honestly their two personalities change completely before and after they cum. men are disgusting and women are brainwashed into following along with everything they want. tricking themselves into thinking theyre doing it for themselves.
 
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aGoodDayToDie

Arcanist
Jun 30, 2023
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I guess there are some disgusting men out there. But they tend to congregate in certain places. Birds of a feather flock together. And it's never been more true than today with technology enabling like minded assholes to form perverted communities, encouraging each other and normalising disgusting behaviour among each other. Echo chambers are everywhere you look nowadays. And most of them demonstrate how diverse the obscenity can be, and how far ranging the diversity of people can be that are swept up into the various echo chambers. This is certainly not something you can just accuse men of. Nor is your specific gripe something you can accuse all men of. But echo chambers are dangerous, for sure. I have news for you. This place is known for being a dangerous echo chamber, and you're a part of it. So don't think that you're immune to such influences, or that you don't contribute to such behaviours. Internet communities have tapped into dark seeds within us all.
 
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leloyon

leloyon

I'll see you in the Wired.
Feb 4, 2023
1,089
Anonymity online allows anyone to say anything without care for the consequences. As scary as it might be, a lot of those men probably wouldn't do anything in real life, and may even be decent people outside of those kinks they have, horny brain really messes some people up.
 
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winamp

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May 20, 2023
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they scare me too sometimes (I thought it was just me) but I try my hardest not to see all of them as scary or dangerous due to my past experiences but in today's atmosphere it is really hard

I try to see everyone as equally disgusting and depraved

also whenever I encounter obscene or concerning stuff relating to men or anyone in general online I just observe and try to find a "why" or reason behind everything also I find things like this interesting because apparently people don't talk about men's mental health that much I personally do not know so I investigated just to see what everyone else was talking about

I find the obscenities someone says behind an online alias interesting even if they are not that good at hiding behind them but I do not suggest getting too deep into it or going down that rabbit hole you will see and read things that you just cannot believe someone would say

or even worse

you might see someone you know

I don't know but I am glad that I am not alone in this experience/feeling
 
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Pluto

Pluto

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Dec 27, 2020
3,996
It's understandable to feel this way given how much dysfunction there is in society, but please be mindful of confirmation bias. Going to the darkest dungeons of the internet in order to validate a stereotype about a vast demographic of people is not going to lead to a balanced appraisal of the situation.

I'm 'lucky' I was abused as a child by people of both genders, so I find everyone equally scary. šŸ˜ø
 
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H.O.Xan

Experienced
Feb 1, 2023
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As a man, we tend to go apeshit on some websites, most of us r pretty harmless irl. It's either a place for wild fantasies or just butt end of jokes. This isn't me personally, but a lot of my good friends r absolutely wild and vocal abt their fantasies. Pls don't b scared of men. i assure u, a lot of us try our best to not be intimidating and vicious
 
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nerve

nerve

fat cringey shut-in
Jun 19, 2019
1,013
id imagine the vast majority of the few 'good men' (i.e.: arent manipulative clowns guided entirely by male entitlement) out there arent the ones posting on porn websites.

but yeah the default setting for guys seems to be 'horny monster' so i cant fault anyone for being scared of/grossed out by them.
 
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saddestbunny

saddestbunny

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Feb 16, 2023
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As a man, we tend to go apeshit on some websites, most of us r pretty harmless irl. It's either a place for wild fantasies or just butt end of jokes. This isn't me personally, but a lot of my good friends r absolutely wild and vocal abt their fantasies. Pls don't b scared of men. i assure u, a lot of us try our best to not be intimidating and vicious
except it happens irl every day to women who don't want that lol most men are sick ngl
 
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MeltingBrain

MeltingBrain

Mage
May 29, 2023
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was exploring a new porn website tonight and the amount of terrible boyfriends, complete assholes and disgusting human beings are being supported on the website and in the comments with disgusting things. most guys dont know where the line is crossed.
What did you read that made you recoil ?
 
HopefulSleep

HopefulSleep

Wants to sleep
Apr 24, 2023
888
I got abused mentally and physically by males and females but the difference was the times I got abused by males it was way worse and I never got sexually abused by a woman.
I think people are more scared of males than females cause most abusers are males but there are also many female abusers just less, I just hate everyone who hurts me I don't care about gender.
Maybe I am like this cause as a male it would not work to be scared of males specifically if I am one myself.
 
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Mr2005

Mr2005

Don't shoot the messenger, give me the gun
Sep 25, 2018
3,622
men scare me

was exploring a new porn website tonight and the amount of terrible boyfriends, complete assholes and disgusting human beings are being supported on the website and in the comments with disgusting things. most guys dont know where the line is crossed. some can balance their two personalities but honestly their two personalities change completely before and after they cum. men are disgusting and women are brainwashed into following along with everything they want. tricking themselves into thinking theyre doing it for themselves.
Pretty much which is why I say some controversial stuff knowing the reactions I'm going to get but also knowing they're full of crap. I'm just honest. Nothing wrong with being a horn dog if you can still view women as people that's what they don't seem to grasp.
 
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Volo vent

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Men hate me because i was not born a lady soo im a pest for them :D
 
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Obliviate

Abandon All Hope
Aug 13, 2022
799
It's actually very sad and disgusting to know that a good percentage of males are predators, abusers, sexist, oppressors, pedos, creepy, agressive, disgusting etc etc I gave up on men a while ago. It's also sad that a good amount of women suffer from internal misogyny and put males on a pedestal while degrading other women as a "pick me" type. I just stay away from everyone now.
 
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FormerlyFe(IV)

FormerlyFe(IV)

Snapped.
Jun 27, 2023
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It's funny that, despite being a guy, I have less to contribute to the conversation? Lol

Like, I'm not against porn, at all. I think it should be destigmatized and the whole chase in the US to further lock it down is absurd.
I've watched it since 12 or 13 and I think I turned out alright. TMI, but I always strayed from the overproduced, fake tits, abusive stuff.
With the internet and home movies and indie studios, porn is in a better place than it was in the 90's, at least. I even (gasp!) supported an indie studio once because I liked their wholesome material.
I am a porn power user. I know my tastes, preferences, and currently have 100GB of assorted porn + a 400GB dump of that indie studio on an external HDD. I have accounts on forums, websites, etc.

But, BUT,

On the other hand, from what I have heard from other female friends, my experience isn't universal. There is a lot of bad sex and ignorant men out there.
When I watch videos about debunking the "manosphere" and Tate and etc as a passtime, that's one thing. Women hearing the BS from real men IRL? Totally different.

I don't think that the problem is porn, necessarily. Less porn is not good.

We need better sex education. Less blob-like penises and more graphic representations of what sex is.
Less terms like "fellatio" and more like "oral"/"bj" in the classroom.

Weird take but idk šŸ¤·
 
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WorthlessTrash

WorthlessTrash

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Apr 19, 2022
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I agree. I hate being one partially for this reason. We are demons in society.
 
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littlelungs

littlelungs

Wizard
Oct 21, 2018
634
I admit that I'm very afraid of men as well, and I feel so incredibly guilty and like such a sexist asshole for it because I know rationally that it's not fair to instinctively group literally half of the world's population together and classify them in my mind as evil people who all want to cause harm to me... but I was hurt very badly by men in pretty much every way you can think of from a very young age and up until I met my now-husband. I was hurt by women as well, but it was primarily men and the stuff they did to me over the years (that was far more violent in nature overall) that really did a number on me, and as a child my brain essentially developed "around" the trauma, so it's just so deeply ingrained in me by this point despite the years of therapy I've been through and the fact that my husband is an absolute sweetheart and has truly been nothing but unconditionally loving, caring, respectful and supportive of/towards me. I even thought that he was gay when we first met because he actually treated me like a human being and not just an object to use, exploit and/or get off to, which I think says quite a bit about my experiences with straight men (and how I view myself in relation to them) over the years.

I don't hate men, I'm just extremely afraid and distrustful of them, which originally stems from extensive trauma. (My husband is the one exception here, which is a miracle in its own right, and yet, even though I know without a doubt that he loves me, sometimes I admittedly still feel baffled as how to it's even possible for him to love me, since I believed for so long that men are fundamentally incapable of feeling actual love for women, among others.) I hate that my brain is this way, but I just can't seem to rewire it no matter how hard I try or what kind of/how much treatment I undergo, and then when I see, hear or read about horrific things that men have done (or even just say in comment sections), it just reinforces and validates this fear.

It's extremely hard to describe because the physical pain is particularly aggressive right now and it's all such a complex, long-standing and deep-rooted issue with me as it is, but... yeah. C-PTSD is hell, I'm often horrified by humanity and the world is just a very terrifying place in general, and just being a part of it makes me feel dirty, honestly.
 
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Disappointered

Disappointered

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Sep 21, 2020
1,283
I would agree that women are brainwashed into doing what men want with the qualifications that by men we are actually talking about a few who garner most women's attention and that they are indeed brainwashed into "tricking themselves"...in other words, no on aside from themselves, through their biological nature, brainwashed them. If the innate foundations weren't already there it would be a lot harder to turn 50 shades of grey into women's most sought after book.

Porn affects men more than women and is a conduit for the opposite of self-discipline. If there was no need to ever set boundaries then the world would be a better place but there is a need and it has been undermined by the usual suspects, who pretend to care about certain liberties when it serves their interests only. It took a lot of effort to get to the current situation and I'm wondering how much effort was taken to get women to be the biggest supporters of bizarre fetishes involving physical violence and denigration. From what I can tell, women are quite keen on both of those as long as the male in question is sufficiently above their station / "chad" / rich or simply "alpha" (aka dominant...). It's kind of scary and makes it seem like women should be exterminated asap but luckily, I am aware they are not all like that all of the time.

But humanity should still be exterminated asap.
 
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theslasher

theslasher

psychonaut
Jun 12, 2023
184
Don't categorize all men in with the pitiful humans who write weird comments on porn videos. As a man, it doesn't matter if I've finished or not.. I've read some of those comments before and they make me cringe and become embarrassed whenever I read them. Saying you're afraid of men just because there's an inevitable amount of them with their screws loose is like a guy saying all women are stupid just because he saw a viral clip of a bimbo on "fresh&fit" who was at the very bottom percentile in regards to intelligence.

In regards to being 2 different people after finishing (aka post nut clarity).. when a man is in a healthy relationship with a woman he ACTUALLY loves, his feelings will remain. When a man has sex with a girl, but his feelings fade after, it's because he didn't love her. He only felt lust for her.

Also, the guys you're referring to are not something I'd consider a real man.
 
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theslasher

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Jun 12, 2023
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Like, I'm not against porn, at all. I think it should be destigmatized and the whole chase in the US to further lock it down is absurd.
I've watched it since 12 or 13 and I think I turned out alright. TMI, but I always strayed from the overproduced, fake tits, abusive stuff.
With the internet and home movies and indie studios, porn is in a better place than it was in the 90's, at least. I even (gasp!) supported an indie studio once because I liked their wholesome material.
I am a porn power user. I know my tastes, preferences, and currently have 100GB of assorted porn + a 400GB dump of that indie studio on an external HDD. I have accounts on forums, websites, etc.
Respectfully, as a fellow man, I'd have to completely disagree. Maybe, just maybe, you did indeed turn out alright. But I certainly don't believe 99% of men will be better off by watching porn. Especially if they do it all the time. When you're a man that makes watching porn a frequent habit, it becomes hard to think straight. You start to sexualize women everywhere you go. And the more you watch, the more desensitized you get. Which means gradually you'll need more and more extreme porn to get turned on. Which can lead to dangerous stuff.

Also, it's kinda crazy that nearly every single serial murderer has a hard-core porn addiction. One could say "that's a reach" or "it's irrelevant", but it's something we should not simply ignore. Porn is inherently exploitative and harmful to women. It dehumanizes them. It reduces them down to a piece of meat with the sole purpose of sexually gratifying others. It removes their talent as someone who can offer real love to others, someone who can share their intellect with others, and create authentic memories with others. It removes their human attributes. And maybe there are a few men in the world, such as yourself, who can have 500+ GB worth of porn in their collection, yet still somehow are able to act sane and treat women as actual human beings, but I seriously doubt the minds of most men in this world are wired that way or are capable of that.

You suggested that "porn needs to be destigmatized" but again I'd have to completely disagree. If anything, it has already been destigmatized, way too much in fact. The more you destigmatize porn, the more extreme stuff it takes to get turned on. which is likely a reason why cheating is so prevalent in American culture and why the divorce rate is over 50%.. The divorce rate being so high is a reason no one wants to get married these days. When marriage rates are low, functional families with BOTH parents become more and more rare which sets the child up for failure. It's to the point that damn near everyone's mother thinks it's their time to start an OnlyFans. Little do they know 90% of OnlyFans workers make less than McDonalds employees.. and they just ruined their digital footprint forever (all for a couple bucks). Nearly every pop song is either about drugs or sex. We've got little kids singing the words whether the messages are obvious or subliminal. You said you watched porn at 12 or 13 but that is way too early for a child to be watching others have sex. Really, I don't think it should be normal that anyone watches others have sex, it's unnatural. Imagine that happening in real life. Only a weird cuck of a man would get off in the corner to another man fucking a girl right next to him. If society shames someone for something, it's not always right, but in this case I'd say it is. And I'm not even saying this for religious beliefs, I'm very anti-religious. These are my own thoughts. Now I agree on your opinion that there should be better sex education, but I genuinely don't think destigmatizing porn is the solution because porn could not be further from reality... porn creates false expectations, unhealthy addictions, and sickly viewpoints towards those around us.
 
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FormerlyFe(IV)

FormerlyFe(IV)

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Jun 27, 2023
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And the more you watch, the more desensitized you get. Which means gradually you'll need more and more extreme porn to get turned on. Which can lead to dangerous stuff.

Is this really true? If so, then most porn users would be on their way to desensitization, and more and more extreme porn would be consumed. But that isn't the case.

Pornhub does a review every year about their stats and trends. Of the most searched terms of 2022... At best 2 could be considered more extreme, really (group sex).

Also, it's kinda crazy that nearly every single serial murderer has a hard-core porn addiction. One could say "that's a reach" or "it's irrelevant", but it's something we should not simply ignore.

Correlation is not causation. For every single serial killer there are thousands if not millions of normal porn users.

Plus, serial killers often suffered sexual abuse when young or had other prior issues regarding their sexuality. Hardcore porn isn't making killers, it's just that killers want porn.

And maybe there are a few men in the world, such as yourself, who can have 500+ GB worth of porn in their collection, yet still somehow are able to act sane and treat women as actual human beings, but I seriously doubt the minds of most men in this world are wired that way or are capable of that

I'm just a data hoarder, 500GB goes quick when it's high quality videos. And yes, it's pretty easy to separate films (porn, tv, youtube) from reality

You suggested that "porn needs to be destigmatized" but again I'd have to completely disagree. If anything, it has already been destigmatized, way too much in fact. The more you destigmatize porn, the more extreme stuff it takes to get turned on.

Again, not really, see the Pornhub trends.

And no, not at all. Why is it that when I search for sexual terms for education, there are only diagrams? Why can't we see the example of a condom being put on a real penis, instead of a banana? What if the banana isn't circumsized and has a lot of skin? Can the banana tell if the condom size is good?

Why can't we have good porn? Homemade, amateur stuff made by more sensible people than porn magnates. The idea of a pornstar from the 90s is out, people don't want exaggerated fake tits and ass anymore. Can't we show actual sex, why not? Why learn about positions from a diagram on a book? Porn made by women? Porn made by women, for women? People of different sizes and colors and orientations and gender? Stigmatizing porn closes so many opportunities for progress.

Also... What if someone does like extreme stuff in bed, whatever it might be? Should they not have access to porn they like?

which is likely a reason why cheating is so prevalent in American culture and why the divorce rate is over 50%.. The divorce rate being so high is a reason no one wants to get married these days. When marriage rates are low, functional families with BOTH parents become more and more rare which sets the child up for failure

This is a whole can of worms in and of itself. Having access to divorce is good and women are still fighting for more equal grounds on life versus men. Women didn't, or couldn't, divorce in the past because they relied so much financially or materially on men.

Forcing two adults to stay married does not guarantee a functional family at all. My parents "stuck around for the kids" and look at what forum I ended up on.

It's to the point that damn near everyone's mother thinks it's their time to start an OnlyFans. Little do they know 90% of OnlyFans workers make less than McDonalds employees.. and they just ruined their digital footprint forever (all for a couple bucks).

I AGREE. 100%. OnlyFans is mostly a trap where women dream of easy money when in reality it's only the top 1% of creators that make a living. Even when using tiktok, reddit, twitter etc and constantly marker their bodies. I too feel bad for the women who feel like their bodies are forevwr stuck on the internet.

Nearly every pop song is either about drugs or sex. We've got little kids singing the words whether the messages are obvious or subliminal. You said you watched porn at 12 or 13 but that is way too early for a child to be watching others have sex. Really, I don't think it should be normal that anyone watches others have sex, it's unnatural.

I mean, puberty hit. I was basically a teen.

The problem with the word "child' or is that it often encompasses literal babies to 17-year olds with full-time jobs. There is a whole spectrum to be considered, and I think that it's natural to be curious about sex come puberty.

Yeah, songs are often about love and sex. You should see what is broadcast on Brazilian airwaves, things get more explicit here. And... it results in a culture that's more sex-positive and open about sex? Talking about sex is good. Repression of sexual thoughts and concersations is not.

Imagine that happening in real life. Only a weird cuck of a man would get off in the corner to another man fucking a girl right next to him. If society shames someone for something, it's not always right, but in this case I'd say it is.

Uhhh that's just your opinion bro. Don't kink shame, not cool.

Now I agree on your opinion that there should be better sex education, but I genuinely don't think destigmatizing porn is the solution because porn could not be further from reality... porn creates false expectations, unhealthy addictions, and sickly viewpoints towards those around

Do you want some good porn recommendations or something? Seriously you portray any porn as the devil.
Porn is inherently exploitative and harmful to women. It dehumanizes them. It reduces them down to a piece of meat with the sole purpose of sexually gratifying others. It removes their talent as someone who can offer real love to others, someone who can share their intellect with others, and create authentic memories with others. It removes their human attributes.

Is a normal acting role dehumanizing because they are playing a part in a movie and not expressing their true identity?

What is so inherently unhuman about sex? Actually, sex is what makes humans in the first place.

Why does porn remove a woman's talent to love or be smart? What? You mean it reduces them to their bodies? Sure, but so are so many jobs. When I see a cashier I think about paying for the groceries, not about their family and education...

And, well, should women not have the option to do so? Like, the whole trafficking thing is overblown, the vast majority of women chose to do porn on their own volition.

Also, how does gay porn fit in this conversation? And trans women, and trans men, and cisgender men, and the whole spectrum of people? Why are we only talking about women? Is gay porn not exploitative because it only involves men? Is lesbian porn double exploitarive?

I feel like you have a really warped perception of porn, to be honest.
 
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UnfeelingVoid

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Jul 21, 2023
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I don't really have a terribly large amount to contribute to this conversation, but I do want to say that as a guy, I totally agree that almost all of us are perverted, sex obsessed monsters. It's part of the reason I hate being a guy, because even though I don't want to ever hurt anyone in terms of a relationship, the "two personality" idea is unfortunately true with me. I've never dreamed of doing something awful to a woman, but my high sexuality definitely causes me to be blind and think of women in sexual ways until finishing. Afterwards, it's extreme shame and a loop of hating myself for letting my hormones control me and make me think of sexual stuff so frequently, despite having never done anything hurtful towards women.

TL;DR: I agree with this post completely and hate my existence as a man every day I wake up.
 
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Namensjemand

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Jul 16, 2023
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I don't really have a terribly large amount to contribute to this conversation, but I do want to say that as a guy, I totally agree that almost all of us are perverted, sex obsessed monsters. It's part of the reason I hate being a guy, because even though I don't want to ever hurt anyone in terms of a relationship, the "two personality" idea is unfortunately true with me. I've never dreamed of doing something awful to a woman, but my high sexuality definitely causes me to be blind and think of women in sexual ways until finishing. Afterwards, it's extreme shame and a loop of hating myself for letting my hormones control me and make me think of sexual stuff so frequently, despite having never done anything hurtful towards women.

TL;DR: I agree with this post completely and hate my existence as a man every day I wake up
Men also have good qualities, you know....

Why would you be disgusted by your libido, I don't really understand. Libido unchecked can be disgusting, I get that. If it controls you.

Woddy Allen once said men are the true romantics. I think there is some considerable truth to that.
 
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theslasher

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Jun 12, 2023
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Is this really true? If so, then most porn users would be on their way to desensitization, and more and more extreme porn would be consumed. But that isn't the case.

Pornhub does a review every year about their stats and trends. Of the most searched terms of 2022... At best 2 could be considered more extreme, really (group sex).
It seems we have a very different perception of what is extreme porn, and what is right or wrong. And you definitely seem like the type of guy to study porn hub statistics and trends.. That's wild. It's hard to take this seriously. As I read your replies I could not help but read it in the voice of that one perverted purple haired kid from My Hero Academia because that's the type of character you come across as. A guy who will find ANY reason to justify his warped and perverted views.
 
UnfeelingVoid

UnfeelingVoid

Black Hole
Jul 21, 2023
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Men also have good qualities, you know....

Why would you be disgusted by your libido, I don't really understand. Libido unchecked can be disgusting, I get that. If it controls you.

Woddy Allen once said men are the true romantics. I think there is some considerable truth to that.
I don't know exactly what it is that makes me disgusted by it, I just have fears I suppose. Not fears of taking advantage of women or anything like that, but just fears of potentially objectifying them in my headā€¦ I don't totally understand it myself. All I know is I would do anything to get rid of my sexual desires because they make me feel so disgusting.
 
Namensjemand

Namensjemand

Cursed
Jul 16, 2023
109
@Oxo
Have you noticed the rise of shemale porn? That is a direct result of excessive porn consumption leading to greater extremes.
The role of the porn in your life matters, I suppose. But that it can have those effects you denounced so off-handedly was to my mind beyond dispute. Those pornhub statistics prove little. PornHub is not known as a porn site catering to extremes and the biggest waggers are teens who have yet to go down the rabbit hole.

My 2 cents
I don't know exactly what it is that makes me disgusted by it, I just have fears I suppose. Not fears of taking advantage of women or anything like that, but just fears of potentially objectifying them in my headā€¦ I don't totally understand it myself. All I know is I would do anything to get rid of my sexual desires because they make me feel so disgusting.
Sorry you feel that way. I think raw male libido is immoral, but very raw and animalistic and hence potentially disgusting or scary.
Yet I can also feel it, to some extend. I get triggered quick by females and I don't like the feeling of being pushed around by "lower" forces.
 
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Correlation is not causation. For every single serial killer there are thousands if not millions of normal porn users.

Plus, serial killers often suffered sexual abuse when young or had other prior issues regarding their sexuality. Hardcore porn isn't making killers, it's just that killers want porn.
Yes correlation is certainly not causation in every single scenario, BUT in this case it is certainly linked as over 95% of serial murderers had a hard-core porn addiction AND those serial murderers openly admitted themselves that their porn addiction contributed towards their twisted views. They gradually need more dark and twisted fantasies to satisfy themselves. "Bundy claimed his addiction to pornography fed the monster inside him as his porn consumption began taking on a darker and harder edge." And he himself also said, "like an addiction, you keep craving something harder, which gives you a greater sense of excitement until you reach a point where the pornography only goes so far..." which lead him to do other things to satisfy his sexual needs... once in prison, AGAIN he said, "I've lived in prison for a long time now and I've met a lot of men who were motivated to commit violence just like me and without exception, every one of them was ā€¦ deeply influenced and consumed by an addiction to pornography." hmmmmmm. There seems to be a common denominator here.. What could it possibly be???? (sarcasm)

Why can't we see the example of a condom being put on a real penis, instead of a banana? Can the banana tell if the condom size is good?
No offense.. but what the fuck. It really does not take a rocket scientist to imagine how a condom is put onto a penis if you see it being put onto a banana... I never even had that in depth of a sex ed class. I never saw a demonstration of a condom and a banana and I STILL figured out how to put on a condom. And no I am not a rocket scientist, just an average guy with common sense. Do you want your sex ed teacher to whip out his penis and demonstrate in front of the class? If they show someone putting a condom on a banana it really does not take that much more imagination or instruction other than swapping the banana with one's penis. Let's be honest.

Talking about sex is good. Repression of sexual thoughts and concersations is not.
Yeah, and it's good we're having this conversation. Sex and porn are 2 DIFFERENT things. Even you said so yourself earlier.. it's important we remember that. Porn tricks your easily manipulated mind into believing it's having sex. Trick your visual, auditory, and tactile senses and your brain cannot determine what is real and what it fake. There's plenty of men out there who are chronically addicted to porn and it literally makes their sex life harder. Guys who watch too much porn, need porn to get hard, they can't even just have normal sex with a real woman after watching too much. It really fucks up a mans mind.

I agree that sexual repression isn't ideal, making it such a taboo topic where teens are never informed of safe sex leads to things like the spread of STDs and unplanned pregnancies. But the ideal thing to do is properly inform the public about safe sex and how to prevent those things from happening. Porn does not do any of that. Damn near ever single video on the popular page is some guy raw dogging and creaming tf outta someone. Which is the exact opposite of slowing the spread of STDS and/or unplanned pregnancies lmao.

Uhhh that's just your opinion bro. Don't kink shame, not cool.
That is my opinion, I'm sorry if I did not make that 100% clear!

That is also the opinion of 99% of men on this earth (you being the bottom 1%). Any guy who gets off to another girl getting railed or gets off to THEIR girl getting railed is quite literally the definition of a cuck. So not only is it an opinion, it is a fact. There are a few pitiful guys who have done this and you can see that their woman has zero respect for them and that all the other guys have lost respect for them as well. Getting off to another man piping a girl is not something to be proud of. You said "don't shame me" I will 100% shame you what the hell. I guess you haven't gotten bullied enough or ever been held accountable in your life, but no there are 100% things in this would that deserve to be shamed. Fuck outta here.

Seriously you portray any porn as the devil.
As an atheist this is hilarious. I don't believe in that religious bs for a second. My viewpoints come from myself learning about and reading books on psychology, neuroscience, philosophy, history and things of that sort.

What is so inherently unhuman about sex? Actually, sex is what makes humans in the first place.
I never said sex was unhuman. You're twisting the words. I said porn was unnatural.

Sex is great, I love sex. I believe those in a committed relationship should be able to have all the sex they want, obviously.. that goes without saying.

Porn on the other hand makes you THINK you are having sex. There is nothing natural about that. You're artificially manipulating your senses to trick your brain into thinking you're having sex.. when you are not. You watch the video of ANOTHER man raw dogging a girl, and imagining yourself in his position. This is not psychologically healthy behavior. It trains the minds of men to become cucks. Part of the reason there are so few real men these days. All these guys want to be controlled by their animalistic mind and remove their accountability required to actually improve their lives. It's disgusting and just sad.
 
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UnfeelingVoid

UnfeelingVoid

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Have you noticed the rise of shemale porn? That is a direct result of excessive porn consumption leading to greater extremes.
The role of the porn in your life matters, I suppose. But that it can have those effects you denounced so off-handedly was to my mind beyond dispute. Those pornhub statistics prove little. PornHub is not known as a porn site catering to extremes and the biggest waggers are teens who have yet to go down the rabbit hole.

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Sorry you feel that way. I think raw male libido is immoral, but very raw and animalistic and hence potentially disgusting or scary.
Yet I can also feel it, to some extend. I get triggered quick by females and I don't like the feeling of being pushed around by "lower" forces.
What do you mean by lower? Also, I don't know if it helps, but in most cases with my libido, I feel happiest when the thoughts that are triggered in my head involve the female being the one in control and in the lead. Thoughts where I am in control often drives me to tears.
 
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What do you mean by lower? Also, I don't know if it helps, but in most cases with my libido, I feel happiest when the thoughts that are triggered in my head involve the female being the one in control and in the lead. Thoughts where I am in control often drives me to tears.
"Lower" is a problematic term... just stuff threatening my agency, making me drawn to someone in ways I can not master or transcend.

And wow okay. That probably has something to do with it :) Sexual abuse maybe?