Resource Megathread N from C + Alternative N Sources

[Berlin76]

I created a thread about this, ordered from A two weeks ago and haven't heard anything since. I understand he doesn't provide tracking numbers, but I didn't even receive an email stating my order has been shipped in which is discloses in the emails upon ordering. Really stressed out about this.

I just pm you

 

[a.n.kirillov]

I'd also like to know so I'm gonna bumb :-)

 

[a.n.kirillov]

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Mhhh you could them a message and ask them...

 

[faust]

Well sending N from China is actually something worth respect. I heard the punishment is very harsh in China for that. Like this person is risking his own life helping the others. Or that does not apply to barbiturates?

 

[fekr304595302]

Anyone can update on their C shipping ?

 

[a.n.kirillov]

Well sending N from China is actually something worth respect. I heard the punishment is very harsh in China for that. Like this person is risking his own life helping the others. Or that does not apply to barbiturates?

It's not to "help" others it's selling drugs. If he did it to help others then he would sell it for 50$, not 700.

 

[Terminally ill]

H

The only powder N provider and he won't ship to my country.

Cool.

How do you know? Where are you from?

 

[Wrennie]

So, if I were to successfully order N from C, would the package be delivered directly to my house, or would I have to pick it up at the Post Office?

 

[Terminally ill]

In my case: yes

Yes, directly to your house?

 

[Heady_Cerebrum]

Whether it comes directly to your house or for pickup is going to depend greatly on the method used for shipment and the companies agreement with the receivers shipping company. It could come in through regular mail or via a courier, again depending on your location. It should also vary if the shipper is using good op sec.

 

[Berlin76]

People just do your own research and put in the work yourself. Questions like this about sending at delivery always end up in spilling to much info. Also the awnser is depending on your situation how you life and where you life.

 

[jgm63]

People just do your own research and put in the work yourself. Questions like this about sending at delivery always end up in spilling to much info. Also the awnser is depending on your situation how you life and where you life.

As a general principle, there's a lot of truth in what @Berlin76 states....

If we come up with "one perfect method", and fully document it in "one perfect thread", then that will become a target and just get shut down.
Variety, scattering of information, and therefore doing your own research, are essential components....

 

[Heady_Cerebrum]

As well, there is a point where it goes from providing information to assistance. I personally believe that giving assistance lowers the barrier to committing suicide, sometimes making it too easy. The barrier is good so the individual has to put concerted effort into committing suicide. The effort proves the individuals desire to commit suicide, they it isn't a whim. I'm sure some, or many, will disagree.

 

[Berlin76]

I disagree with the bolded section. Providing info is just providing info. It is up to the person who receives the info to decide what they do with it. I think you are mistaking encouraging with providing info knowing someone's intentions is to ctb.

Thats true info can be just flat-out info. But with people who are weak of mind the thin line is crossed easily that's why it also can been seen as a form of encouraging.

Questions like : am i doing this right with meto, what should i do this or that.

That's something i see all the time here.
And then awnsers come and that is the part of the conversation in post that is encouraging.

 

[chris8000]

Providing information is helping people to some extent, even if you say it is just for educational purposes, but it is not encouraging them. Encouraging them means convincing them it is a good idea and they should do it, that is obviously unethical and people do not do it here generally.

However, providing information here is a very different kind of help to that certain organisations in Europe offer. This is why sanctioned suicide is best viewed as an information platform, where it is up to the individual to decide what to do with that information. Yes as @Berlin76 says, please do your own research thoroughly before asking questions.

@Berlin76, is right about the other point. That the forum does allow particular ways of thinking to be reinforced and the discussions can lead to people dying quicker and make the chances of their attempt being successful higher.

 

[Berlin76]

Providing information is helping people to some extent, even if you say it is just for educational purposes, but it is not encouraging them. Encouraging them means convincing them it is a good idea and they should do it, that is obviously unethical and people do not do it here generally.

However, providing information here is a very different kind of help to that certain organisations in Europe offer. This is why sanctioned suicide is best viewed as an information platform, where it is up to the individual to decide what to do with that information. Yes as @Berlin76 says, please do your own research thoroughly before asking questions.

@Berlin76, is right about the other point. That the forum does allow particular ways of thinking to be reinforced and the discussions can lead to people dying quicker and make the chances of their attempt being successful higher.

. You're correct on everything.
But the thing nobody acknowledged is that most people here are in a vulnerable state. And the slightest input of info guiding them towards suicide via substance or method is dangerous. Because the people asking for the right answer of info or method can feel convert in those answers.

Like in the state of mind: we are in this together as a small community on this site, thanks friends i finally have it

 

[AlreadyGone]

I just got the test results. I don't know if I can / should share this here.. If so, I'll be happy to do it and otherwise I'm here via PN.

If you can PM me the results, I would appreciate that.

 

[2manyproblems]

Can you please share if it is legitimate on here.

 

[terry_a_davis]

I just got the test results. I don't know if I can / should share this here.. If so, I'll be happy to do it and otherwise I'm here via PN.

Why won't you share the results on here? You're not naming the source, it's only a number.

 

[Berlin76]

Because it's incriminating to say you ordered and recieved it, get it?

 

[terry_a_davis]

Because it's incriminating to say you ordered and recieved it, get it?

He has already said as much by saying he's got it and tested it.

 

[Berlin76]

He has already said as much by saying he's got it and tested it.

I said this for everyone here.
Dont think your safe because this site is a open source everybody can see everything. And tracking ip is easy even with vpn.

 

[angie]

I just got the test results. I don't know if I can / should share this here.. If so, I'll be happy to do it and otherwise I'm here via PN.

 

[terry_a_davis]

I said this for everyone here.
Dont think your safe because this site is a open source everybody can see everything. And tracking ip is easy even with vpn.

You've lost me tbh. I simply asked why he didnt want to reveal the result? You replied "Because it's incriminating to say you ordered and recieved it, get it?", but obviously he has already said he's received it as he informed us he's got it and is testing it. Giving us purity information doesn't incriminate him further, he has already said he has it.

 

[angie]

If no one ever shares anything then know one will know anything . If it's through pm I'd share any info i had if it would give someone useful info
its down to the individual how they use the info .
It's no different to reading all the info on the likes of stan thread and jmg63 threads .
that's my thought on it .

 

[RainAndSadness]

As well, there is a point where it goes from providing information to assistance. I personally believe that giving assistance lowers the barrier to committing suicide, sometimes making it too easy. The barrier is good so the individual has to put concerted effort into committing suicide. The effort proves the individuals desire to commit suicide, they it isn't a whim. I'm sure some, or many, will disagree.

I disagree. Suicide should be an informed and well thought-out decision but nobody should 'fight' for a peaceful method. Most people simply take the noose because it's the easiest method but it's far from peaceful, it has severe risks, it can be painful and if you're saved, there is a high chance of disability of some kind. People who desire to end their life shouldn't have to fight for a dignified death. I am lucky enough to know how to navigate around the darknet, so I can purchase N and other peaceful methods but I've talked to so many people who had no idea about the darknet and how to purchase N, getting this substance at that point is a pure privilege and also hidden behind some severe financial investment. Nobody should pay 700 dollars for a peaceful method and not everyone has enough money to afford that. Not everyone knows how to buy N. And not everyone wants to commit a crime by purchasing this substance for their exit. But that's essentially what you do, that's not right either. Nobody should go through the hassle of talking to police officers, with the risks of being committed and sometimes even paying a fine, just because they wanted a peaceful exit. And that's wrong. No, it's actually fucked up, if you think about that. If a person came to the conclusion that their life doesn't have any meaning anymore and that continuing is connected to severe struggle and pain, that person should have every right to leave with the most peaceful and painless method out there, with no struggle, no barriers, nothing like that.

 

[Berlin76]

Enough info to read right?
So why do people need so much spoonfeeding and even have things spelled out when they can also do more themselves of research.

 

[angie]

Enough info to read right?
So why do people need so much spoonfeeding and even have things spelled out when they can also do more themselves of research.

i think it's just a case of we are all different , and some can comprehend things easier than others .

 

[terry_a_davis]

There's nothing wrong in sharing information, it's good to help each other out. A purity figure isn't against site rules (i think) as long as no source is explicitly named, i was going to point this out to the person if he was afraid of breaking rules. But of course it's up to him if he doesn't want to post the number for whatever reason.

 

[Berlin76]

I disagree. Suicide should be an informed and well thought-out decision but nobody should 'fight' for a peaceful method. Most people simply take the noose because it's the easiest method but it's far from peaceful, it has severe risks, it can be painful and if you're saved, there is a high chance of disability of some kind. People who desire to end their life shouldn't have to fight for a dignified death. I am lucky enough to know how to navigate around the darknet, so I can purchase N and other peaceful methods but I've talked to so many people who had no idea about the darknet and how to purchase N, getting this substance at that point is a pure privilege and also hidden behind some severe financial investment. Nobody should pay 700 dollars for a peaceful method. Not everyone has so much money to afford that. Not everyone has the money to buy N. Not everyone knows how to buy N. And not everyone wants to commit a crime by purchasing this substance for their exit. But that's essentially what you do, that's not right either. Nobody should go through the hassle of talking to police officers, with the risks of being committed and sometimes even paying a fine, just because they wanted a peaceful exit. And that's wrong. No, it's actually fucked up, if you think about that. If a person came to the conclusion that their life doesn't have any meaning anymore and that continuing is connected to severe struggle and pain, that person should have every right to leave with the most peaceful and painless method out there, with no struggle, no barriers, nothing like that.

You totally missed the clue what Heady cerebrum said.
He is talking about the way of sharing info here and how it can effect individuals here to take the step even faster. Forrums can speed the suicidal tendency up for worse of individuals.

i think it's just a case of we are all different , and some can comprehend things easier than others .

Most people who are asking for this info are all new members hardly a month old. They hardly do research and they didn't experience the periode where police started hunting A and also members here and at exit. There have been many raids dig deeper in the past you can see it and read it all.

So ofcourse people dont see the danger of talking about ordering deathly drug out in the open. Because its such a normal thing to do right?