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Arak

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Sep 21, 2018
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@Idorus ,

Referring to his post in a different thread and my google translation of part of that Dutch book

'

The following is of great importance. If one is suicidal with barbiturates
the plan is also the (possible) use of benzodiazepines
should be discontinued in good time as a sedative. The reasons for this are from
technical pharmacological nature.12
The same standard advice applies to the withdrawal of benzodiazepines
from 2 + 3 weeks. The phasing out phase may also be extended
be: some people find it easier to implement 4 + 3 weeks,
because at 4 weeks the central nervous system decreases gradually
can adjust.'

There is no chance is hell I can reset my tolerance that way. Things don't always don't go by the book.
 
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@okyeah, courier or regular mail ? Did you get a tracking number ?
 
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okyeah

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@okyeah, courier or regular mail ? Did you get a tracking number ?

Courier. No tracking number. I asked him for it 5 days ago and he said he had to wait for a guy to give it to him
 
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Among those who received N. from A., which e-mail from PPeH did you use - the first one (***.com) or the second one ***.ch)?
 
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Courier. No tracking number. I asked him for it 5 days ago and he said he had to wait for a guy to give it to him
It should have been very quick. I don't know what's going on. Anyone access to the exit forums ?
 
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Mynameisnotimportant

4 years recovered. SS Vetran
Aug 21, 2018
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I'm lazy and don't want to look through 37 pages of info
Do I need to buy bitcoin to buy from A?
What is the chance that the package will get intercepted? (I live in USA and will have it sent to a PO box)
Should I use my personal gmail to contact A?
 
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ctrl_alt_delete

r e p l i c a n t
Nov 14, 2018
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Among those who received N. from A., which e-mail from PPeH did you use - the first one (***.com) or the second one ***.ch)?
I copied the same email to both (BCCing it). A was aware of both copies, therefore both addresses are theirs.
 
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ctrl_alt_delete

r e p l i c a n t
Nov 14, 2018
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I'm lazy and don't want to look through 37 pages of info
Do I need to buy bitcoin to buy from A?
What is the chance that the package will get intercepted? (I live in USA and will have it sent to a PO box)
Should I use my personal gmail to contact A?
Read the whole PPH.
Every sentence. Every word.
And ask yourself the whole way through, do I really really want to do this? Like, REALLY really?
If you can't be bothered then, cool, you can't be bothered; go and get on with your life.
I lived on brown rice and lentils and didn't smoke or drink for well over a year, not for health reasons, but to put the money aside to put this together. Which also gave me plenty of time to think about whether I was really sure.

* * *

You have to be sure. [edit.] Because there's no guarantee of a second chance. Sorry, if this comes across as preachy, but, you really do have to be sure.

* * *
 
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okyeah

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Hi okyeah. From what A told me, the courier will leave notification as to where you can pick up the package if you are not home when they try to deliver. Not sure what happens if you're using a po box and require a signature. Someone at the box office may be able to sign for it. With the package being so innocuous, it probably won't even register as being anything unusual to anyone. I wouldn't worry too much about that part.

But I'd say, if there's a delay it's probably because A sends out only 30 packages each Saturday to keep things from getting suspicious, so depending on when he got your order it either went out fairly quickly, or the following week. And consider the holidays, too. The courier was probably bogged down as well. I'll bet it'll show up any time now, but I get you're anxious.

Meditating is probably a good idea. I should do that, too. Been listening to music from the Lord of the Rings soundtrack on YT, very sweet and relaxing, if you like that sort of music. Nice place to escape to for a while.

lol i used to listen to that soundtrack all the time when i used to work. it's beautiful.
 
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I ordered from A few years ago now, from the Uk and received it but that was around 2014. So things may have changed regarding the Uk. Anyone else?
how do I order from A?
 
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@galaxyencrypted ,

Read the PPEH.
 
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johnny

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Dec 5, 2018
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What precautions should be taken by someone doing N in a hotel room? Besides putting the "Please do not disturb" notice on the door, is there anything else? 2 nights should be good?
 
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Sinbad

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Nov 27, 2018
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One night is enough.. Check in at 3 or 4 pm with your supplies..take a shower.. Dress comfortably.. At around 6 or 7 pm drink the N followed by a shot of Bailey chocolate cherry.
 
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One night is enough.. Check in at 3 or 4 pm with your supplies..take a shower.. Dress comfortably.. At around 6 or 7 pm drink the N followed by a shot of Bailey chocolate cherry.
Reasoning for 2 nights being that my main fear is vomiting it up and just passing out, then getting found. Is that kind of liquor the best to use?
 
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Sinbad

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Make sure you book a room in a 4 star hotel not some nasty motel. Motels have paper thin walls. Every time I stay in a motel I hear a couple fuck or argue..

You have at least 14 hours alone time if you drink N at 6 pm. That's more than enough time.

Also, you shouldn't plan on throwing up.. That's already a bad mind set..if you are too fearful about throwing up go anal..

And yes Bailey is an excellent choice because of the alcohol content and the sweet taste.
 
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johnny

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Make sure you book a room in a 4 star hotel not some nasty motel. Motels have paper thin walls. Every time I stay in a motel I hear a couple fuck or argue..

You have at least 14 hours alone time if you drink N at 6 pm. That's more than enough time.

Also, you shouldn't plan on throwing up.. That's already a bad mind set..if you are too fearful about throwing up go anal..

And yes Bailey is an excellent choice because of the alcohol content and the sweet taste.
So decent hotels where you have to enter the building are more sound proof than motels? I'm not planning on throwing up, i'd be using anti E, i'm just nervous about that.
 
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johnny

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YES!


Yeah I get it.. I will be a little nervous too..
I just feel like 2 nights would give added insurance of not getting found if something went wrong and passed out for 24hrs or something without dying
 
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Sinbad

Sinbad

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A friend of mine (no, really) wants to know if A ships to Turkey?

Cheers.
No.

I just feel like 2 nights would give added insurance of not getting found if something went wrong and passed out for 24hrs or something without dying
If you think you need 2 days to feel better about this whole thing.. Go for it.
 
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Does anyone know if regular use of OTC sleep medications such as melatonin or nyquil would have any negative impact on the effectiveness of N?

In the PPH I just see to not use prescription benzos or anti-psychotics. Is there anything else that needs to be avoided?
 
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Crash

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What would happend to the package if I'm not at home to receive it when it gets delivered ? I just realized I didn't give my name nor my phone number so I'm kinda freaking out right now ...
 
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JJ-NOHOPE

Tantalus - all desire, no hope
Nov 26, 2018
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I used private courier. I'm in the US.

I wasn't home when they delivered and they left it on my porch.

It took only about a week to get it from when he said he shipped it.

He was slow emailing me back over the holidays.
 
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onegoodreason

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Dec 28, 2018
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lol i used to listen to that soundtrack all the time when i used to work. it's beautiful.
I've been finding a bunch of LotR music vids on YT the past couple of days. Course, you click on one and a whole bunch more come up as "suggestions". Love it! :-) Listening to another one right now with the music from all three films, over 3 hours long. Oh yes...!! :-D
 
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ge0rge

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Jul 29, 2018
647
so I have a Q: the private courier delivers the thing personally? you don't need to go to the post office? I live in a country in Europe where most people live in apartment buildings, so I don't think the courier would just leave it outside my apartment lmao
 
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okyeah

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I used private courier. I'm in the US.

I wasn't home when they delivered and they left it on my porch.

It took only about a week to get it from when he said he shipped it.

He was slow emailing me back over the holidays.

what the fuck.. now I'm freaking out. where the fuck is it. I'm running out of money now. I need that fucking N. Which region of the USA are you located?
 
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ge0rge

the satanic mechanic
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paging @ctrl_alt_delete for info on private couriers in Europe
 
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onegoodreason

"She went down swinging" Tom Petty
Dec 28, 2018
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paging @ctrl_alt_delete for info on private couriers in Europe
She may be busy today, ge0rge. Patience - I'm sure she'll answer when she can. Peace!
 
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okyeah

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okyeah, I so wish there was something I could do or say that would ease your frustration and worry. It's been 5 weeks since you ordered with A, yes? The holiday season is such a difficult time on so many levels for so many of us, so I get your anxiety over this. But it could be that's the hold up. Has A contacted you at all since? Did he say he sent the package? If so, when did he tell you that? Have you heard from him at all since then? Have you emailed him, I think I saw that you had, and did he get back to you at that point? Just trying to determine a time line here is all. If it's been a while since you've communicated, I would try again, through Proton mail and be polite, humble and grateful - that really goes a long way. You can certainly make your frustration clear to him, just do it nicely, don't put the blame on him, if he sent it out, it's not his fault what happens after. When he understands that you haven't received it yet, and you ask him to track it for you, I'm sure he will do that and get back to you. At least, I certainly hope he will. He's a busy guy, lots of orders to prepare for shipment and all. With all the questions he gets, I'm sure he understands our anxieties and is doing his best to help us. But, of course, we need to keep in mind that we are ALL taking a very big risk with this process, especially him as he is our supplier. If he gets caught, frell, I'd hate to think what happens then. Everyone gets screwed then. Anyway, try emailing him again, through Proton mail (I think he feels more secure with it and is more likely to respond in kind), and see what happens. I asked him another set of questions on Friday, I think, and he hasn't responded to those yet, but I've kind of gotten my answers through all of you here anyway, so I'm okay with the delay.
Can I make a suggestion for your Sunday afternoon? Make a cup of your favorite hot beverage, put on a soundtrack from LotR and read a few chapters from the trilogy, starting anywhere, in some cozy nook where you can curl up, and gaze out the window at each sip. Got a kitty? Have him/her curl up with you there. Stay away from the computer for a while. Or better, take a walk in nature with your hot beverage, if the weather is nice where you are. Just do something, or not do something, just relax and empty your mind as best you can, focus on your breath and keeping your body relaxed.
I'm just concerned for you, Dearheart. I can say, try not to worry, but that's no help at all, I know. I only wish you peace in every way.

Thank you. I'm just living a purgatory type of life right now. Thanks again for the encouragement
 
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okyeah

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Hi okyeah, I'm relieved you were okay with what I wrote. After I sent it, I realized I may have come off as too much of a "mom" and that wasn't my intention at all. Just trying to be helpful, is all. Yeah, purgatory is not a nice or fun place to be, for sure. So sorry to hear that's what you're experiencing right now. Would anything I suggested help at all, or no? Hope so, Dearheart! I'm in hell myself though I think I got a temporary pass the last couple of days and it's not quite as bad as it's been. We'll see how long it lasts this time.

For everyone here, just received an email from A answering some, not all of the questions I asked last week.

For delivery - no signature required by the courier. I think we figured that one out already, but good to get the confirmation from him. I also asked about how they handle delivering to apartment buildings though I didn't specify a particular country. We'll see what he says.

For the antiemetics, he sends a package of 20 tablets, with instructions to take 2 eight hours before taking the N, and then another 2 half an hour before. It's not Zofran, it's the other type he has, can't remember the name. He forgot to tell me how much he charges, though, so I asked that again. I also asked if one doesn't take the N in the eight hours, there would be no harm. I can't imagine there would be, but again, good to know that from him.

It seems to me that A gets very busy from about Thursday through Saturday and so doesn't answer emails during that time. But it looks, too, that he gets to responding as soon as he can. I do my best to be very grateful, understanding and polite with him. No point to antagonizing our only source for a peaceful and painless exit. Yes?

Back later.

haha! you do remind me a little bit of a mom. thanks mom. sorry to hear that it's going so bad for you. I hope we can find our peace soon

also i thought A wasn't sending anti emetics anymore???
 
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