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If you plan to use Western Union, make sure you check their website for your country first.

They have a limit. If you want to send money above a certain amount they'll want to do a background check in case of fraud.
In most Western European countries this amount is 1000 euros per year.

If you stay below this limit, there are no checks as far as I know and their service itself is perfectly legal.
 
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If you plan to use Western Union, make sure you check their website for your country first.

They have a limit. If you want to send money above a certain amount they'll want to do a background check in case of fraud.
In most Western European countries this amount is 1000 euros per year.

If you stay below this limit, there are no checks as far as I know and their service itself is perfectly legal.
Below 500$ should be fine. Im just going to try with one bottle.
 
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This is the exact same routine as someone close to me used. I posted about it in another thread.
Her talking of N. went perfectly smooth. I'll do the same when I decide my time has come.

Yup I read it! And thinking; that's the exact same as my counselor advised. I got the impression you both are from my country and that she maybe also went to an end-of-life counselor or at the least contacted one. The melting paracetamols on her tongue in the weeks before to get used to a dirty taste was a really great tip btw.

I paid through WU and I had to show my ID. They filled it all out so I'm fully traceable back in their system but I couldn't care less to be honest.
 
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Hello everyone, just to tell you that today I received my 2 bottles of A. I am the happiest man in the world. I have 3 bottles in my possession, I will analyze one to check the purity, I will post the results on the forum ^^

How
I'm wondering if I should use my real contact info?


I did it with my own name etc to transfer money. Dont see why u should use a other name its also a problem if it gets rejected or whatever.
 
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Below 500$ should be fine. Im just going to try with one bottle.

That depends on how much you weigh.
And also fysical health but al organizations recommend is that it is between 10 and 15 grams of pentobarbital. You dont want to be in coma for 3.days and then wake up.
 
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How



I did it with my own name etc to transfer money. Dont see why u should use a other name its also a problem if it gets rejected or whatever.
This is just the dosing table from Wikipedia but I am conflicted on how much I'd really need.

Drug
amount
Antiemetic drugs must be taken beforehand See wiki book on antiemetics.
Liquid pentobarbital (Nembutal), either pure sterile solution or powder dissolved in small amount of water/applesauce. 6-12 grams (see discussion on lethality)
Analgesic (optional, possibly opioid, not discussed much in literature) Low-moderate dose (Nembutal should have main CNS effect).

And of course Dignitas uses 15g? & A said two if you're over 132lbs, you should use 2? I'm thinking better safe than sorry, but am using other medication too?
 
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They don't say anything about tolerance ... I hope that's not the bitch ...
 
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Hey! I have a question. There are two emails in the PPEH. Which one is it better to use, the first or the second?
 
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This is just the dosing table from Wikipedia but I am conflicted on how much I'd really need.

Drug
amount
Antiemetic drugs must be taken beforehand See wiki book on antiemetics.
Liquid pentobarbital (Nembutal), either pure sterile solution or powder dissolved in small amount of water/applesauce. 6-12 grams (see discussion on lethality)
Analgesic (optional, possibly opioid, not discussed much in literature) Low-moderate dose (Nembutal should have main CNS effect).

And of course Dignitas uses 15g? & A said two if you're over 132lbs, you should use 2? I'm thinking better safe than sorry, but am using other medication too?
Has anyone lived after taking N?
 
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@ddutch ,

I was just going to post that first link ! We don't know how soon he was found. Nothing is 100 %, and I'm worried about tolerance.
 
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Yup I read it! And thinking; that's the exact same as my counselor advised. I got the impression you both are from my country and that she maybe also went to an end-of-life counselor or at the least contacted one. The melting paracetamols on her tongue in the weeks before to get used to a dirty taste was a really great tip btw.

I paid through WU and I had to show my ID. They filled it all out so I'm fully traceable back in their system but I couldn't care less to be honest.
I think we very well might be from the same tiny country :)
And yes, she spoke with a counselor first too. But it was a he, not a she. He was connected to a certain organization though.
I have a feeling yours is/was too.
They have a lot of experience and after a close encounter with someone who followed up their advice, I've decided to do the same.
 
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@ddutch ,

I was just going to post that first link ! We don't know how soon he was found. Nothing is 100 %, and I'm worried about tolerance.
Well this is worrisome
 
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@ddutch ,

I was just going to post that first link ! We don't know how soon he was found. Nothing is 100 %, and I'm worried about tolerance.
Kind of seems like he was found sooner than later. I mean he took more than one bottle right? I will be alone for more than 8 hrs. I think that is a good amount of time.
 
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That depends on how much you weigh.
And also fysical health but al organizations recommend is that it is between 10 and 15 grams of pentobarbital. You dont want to be in coma for 3.days and then wake up.
I forgot how many grams were in a bottle.
 
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These cases are more the exception than the rule though, right? MY ONLY issue is being in a state of distress when you show no signs you are in distress. That is why I will try to get a long acting benzo, and pain control. And someone said he would post the potency of his N after taking them to his pharmacist. But, this is the one thing that works...and the cases above are not the norm? So maybe have your affairs in order ...I want a DNR? Do you think that would alleviate any of the issues?
 
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These cases are more the exception than the rule though, right? MY ONLY issue is being in a state of distress when you show no signs you are in distress. That is why I will try to get a long acting benzo, and pain control. And someone said he would post the potency of his N after taking them to his pharmacist. But, this is the one thing that works...and the cases above are not the norm? So maybe have your affairs in order ...I want a DNR? Do you think that would alleviate any of the issues?
 
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ddutch

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@ddutch ,

I was just going to post that first link ! We don't know how soon he was found. Nothing is 100 %, and I'm worried about tolerance.

Tolerance happens only when you take N as a sleeping aid right? Or am i wrong.
When a person dont use any other drug or N as a sleeping aid than i think there is nothing to worry about.

And the question was, Did anybody survive N. So that's why i posted these 2 links.

But still i prefer the 12gr.
That is also because it needs to reach a peak in the blood stream to do the work.
When someone weight 90 kilo and only take one bottle it can be just a deep coma nothing more. Depending also on health ofcourse. It is lethal but even the end of life clinic have it in their conduct of administration with oral euthanasia were the person also takes it them self.
 
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I think we very well might be from the same tiny country :)
And yes, she spoke with a counselor first too. But it was a he, not a she. He was connected to a certain organization though.
I have a feeling yours is/was too.
They have a lot of experience and after a close encounter with someone who followed up their advice, I've decided to do the same.

The same tiny flat one yea;)

Mine was also a "he" (acquitted of unauthorized assisted suicide a decade ago and victim of undercover wish-to-die faking by commercial tv 2 years ago), started his own practice not very long ago after having worked for St. de Einder for years. I also met Frank a decade back, now working for St. Levenseindecounseling. Both at the time worked for St. de Einder but late 2015 it all exploded there and many counselors or better said: the biggest rebels went their own way as the foundation seemed nothing more than a Wolf in sheep's clothes (too much "therapy inclined" instead of taking the death wish itself utterly serious). Hence 3 of them went further as St. Levenseindecounseling under which Frank as the only guy. It might very well be the same one as your friend met. It were both one-time visits but I'm allowed to ask questions per mail if needed (to the one I was with back in december - a consult isn't very cheap u know! - )
 
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