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luke_skywalker

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Mar 22, 2022
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I find a lot of people where people get impulsive and emotional that they tell "I want to die".
I personally think CTB should be as objectively as possible. Such as considering your self, is CTB the only option that Im available.
Could be funny but Yoda said "Do or do not, there is no try".
If you once to decide to live, live. Live like the livings.
Death itself is like an apple. Apple does not have a positive nor negative meaning. It is apple it self. Such as death, death itself is just death. Farewell might not be.
After that farewell, there is no "me" but you may find peace.
 
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FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
Sep 24, 2020
43,309
I believe that we all have the right to exit this world at a time of our own choosing, it is a personal decision when to leave this world. No one needs to justify their reasons for leaving as well. I do not think that people should be forced to live against their wishes. In my case, my decision to die is perfectly rational, I do not see my life as being worth living and for me, it makes sense to escape from decades of suffering.
 
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luke_skywalker

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Mar 22, 2022
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I believe that we all have the right to exit this world at a time of our own choosing, it is a personal decision when to leave this world. No one needs to justify their reasons for leaving as well. I do not think that people should be forced to live against their wishes. In my case, my decision to die is perfectly rational, I do not see my life as being worth living and for me, it makes sense to escape from decades of suffering.
Exactly, do or do not there is no try. If you once made up your mind to CTB, farewell. If you have any reasons not to CTB , like not sure or not made up your mind, live like the livings.
 
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Red Scare

Red Scare

Wizard
Mar 1, 2022
647
I believe that we all have the right to exit this world at a time of our own choosing, it is a personal decision when to leave this world.
So if a 9 year old is mad that they got no ice cream, they should be able to obtain barbiturates to end their adolescent life?
 
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Al Cappella

Al Cappella

Are we there yet?
Feb 2, 2022
888
So if a 9 year old is mad that they got no ice cream, they should be able to obtain barbiturates to end their adolescent life?
Yes. They could be sprinkled on the ice cream to make it pretty…
 
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luke_skywalker

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Mar 22, 2022
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So if a 9 year old is mad that they got no ice cream, they should be able to obtain barbiturates to end their adolescent life?
Im pretty sure that the user said that under common sense on the background, such as itself is above certain age where he or she can decide what to do about their life.
 
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demuic

Life was a mistake
Sep 12, 2020
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Humans cannot be disconnected from their emotions.
 
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luke_skywalker

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Mar 22, 2022
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Humans cannot be disconnected from their emotions.
Emotion it self is a result of hormonal imbalance. We feel happy or sad by sertonin hormon level. This is why having objective perspective about its own life is important. Under that circumstances, you are available to decide if CTB is the only option that u've got or not
 
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Insomniac

Insomniac

𝔄 𝔲 𝔱 𝔦 𝔰 𝔪
May 21, 2021
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virtue-signals.org
 
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liberty_222

liberty_222

psychotic
Nov 28, 2021
361
What do you mean bub
What is objectivity in human psychology?
 
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Superdeterminist

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Apr 5, 2020
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I find a lot of people where people get impulsive and emotional that they tell "I want to die".
I personally think CTB should be as objectively as possible. Such as considering your self, is CTB the only option that Im available.
Could be funny but Yoda said "Do or do not, there is no try".
If you once to decide to live, live. Live like the livings.
Death itself is like an apple. Apple does not have a positive nor negative meaning. It is apple it self. Such as death, death itself is just death. Farewell might not be.
After that farewell, there is no "me" but you may find peace.
At bottom, I think emotion drives everything, including this post of yours, and mine. I think that a decision being impulsive doesn't mean that it was irrational.
 
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Niko66

Niko66

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Dec 6, 2021
353
What do you mean bub
What is objectivity in human psychology?
It usually means whatever I think is right regardless of my qualifications or knowledge about your particular situation and my lack of any actual studies in psychology 😄
 
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Superdeterminist

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Apr 5, 2020
1,875
So if a 9 year old is mad that they got no ice cream, they should be able to obtain barbiturates to end their adolescent life?
YES! :))

Imagine being able to 'quit game' at your leisure. that's the default in most video games. We should grant ourselves the same liberty in reality.
 
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Oblivion Access

Oblivion Access

I don't know anything
Jul 5, 2019
333
Funnily enough being able to die peacefully at any time of your own choosing would make living more meaningful, given that everyone you meet actively chooses to remain alive rather than being a hostage to fear of severe disability or psychiatric imprisonment. Something to consider.
 
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Dot

Info abt typng styl on prfle.
Sep 26, 2021
3,334
Exactly, do or do not there is no try. If you once made up your mind to CTB, farewell. If you have any reasons not to CTB , like not sure or not made up your mind, live like the livings.
Spokn lke sm1 wh/ hs nt hd 2 battl w/ s.i.
 
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Niko66

Specialist
Dec 6, 2021
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Funnily enough being able to die peacefully at any time of your own choosing would make living more meaningful, given that everyone you meet actively chooses to remain alive rather than being a hostage to fear of severe disability or psychiatric imprisonment. Something to consider.
Couldn't agree more, it almost seems like common sense? Yet we have been conditioned all our lives about what's correct and acceptable and normal.
I would only add in reaching adulthood and that having children or taking people under your care as the only reason why someone should be *prohibited* from ending their lives. And as a child of an abusive mentally ill mother, I can also say that adoption is potentially a better fate that being "raised" by someone who hates their lives, so really someone suicidal shouldn't be allowed to be the one responsible for children in the first place unless they can provide some evidence of their capacity to actually give them a decent life and opportunities. Funny how ending your own life is so controversial yet people are completely free to have children without any consideration. The world is crazy.
 
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Red Scare

Red Scare

Wizard
Mar 1, 2022
647
YES! :))

Imagine being able to 'quit game' at your leisure. that's the default in most video games. We should grant ourselves the same liberty in reality.
be-careful-you-dont-cut-yourself-on-all-that-edge-19981297.png
 
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DetachedDreamer97

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Mar 17, 2018
1,402
I kinda agree. People on here would often make goodbye threads only to come back saying that they've either failed or aborted their attempts, due to poor planning and indecisiveness, or they never bother investing in their research on a good method.

It's do or die for me. I might not even make a goodbye thread when I'm going considering I'm never too sure on when I'm going, or… I'll just forget. All I know, however, is that I'm going to be that one-hit wonder.

"If you're gonna be a man, do it ALL the way, not HALF way."
 
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Klo

Physical pain and depression
Mar 27, 2022
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So if a 9 year old is mad that they got no ice cream, they should be able to obtain barbiturates to end their adolescent life?
What a stupid premise. I can't believe you even posted that
 
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Al Cappella

Al Cappella

Are we there yet?
Feb 2, 2022
888
I don't know about impulsive, but it's certainly the nature of these forums to be emotional. Not sure how you avoid that, really. And I don't really see the problem. It depends on the individual as to how emotional they are around this business anyway. Besides, much of it here revolves around mood disturbances, etc.

I might be wrong, but I'm getting a "shut up and get on with it" message, which is unfortunate. If true, that would be spectacularly unhelpful. The point is, I think, to have a safe enough space to vent, cry—do whatever it is they need to do to cope with what are really difficult circumstances.
 
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Crazy4u

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Sep 29, 2021
1,318
I have the opposite observation. I can't remember any impulsive thread. Many people have rational approach to suicide
 
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Dr Iron Arc

Into the Unknown
Feb 10, 2020
21,392
I don't think suicide should be impulsive but it's funny how if you are on this site and not planning on doing it impulsively, then you get accused of being a predator acting under false pretenses to lure innocent 20 year old children to their deaths.
 
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Lynh

Lynh

Lost in limbo
Jan 4, 2020
41
Todo ser vivo es emocional, especialmente los humanos, y aún más las personas que sufrimos bien sea por una enfermedad, malos tratos, incomprensión, pérdida del sentido a la vida, decepción, cansancio, discapacidad, etc.
Toda la vida gira entorno a las emociones. Unos las pueden gestionar más que otros, como pasa en otros aspectos.
Pero ser emocionales no nos hace malos, ni buenos.
Cada persona tiene sus tiempos, sus angustias, sus sufrimientos, sus obligaciones en este mundo, y pensamos mucho para irnos a la primera.
Este es un sitio seguro para poder desahogarnos, para decir sin ser criticados
"me quiero morir", "voy a hacer CTB" Y si por la razón que sea no lo puede hacer en el momento que lo publica, no hay que criticar, ni mucho menos.
Debemos respetar y apoyar, estamos todos por lo mismo de alguna forma; no somos felices, o tenemos alguna enfermedad o discapacidad. No se puede generalizar en estos temas tan delicados.
Estamos reunidos en este sitio gracias a un grupo de buenas personas que crearon un sitio seguro para nosotros donde no se juzgue, ni se haga más daño como el que nos hacen las personas del exterior que no nos entienden.
 
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liberty_222

psychotic
Nov 28, 2021
361
It usually means whatever I think is right regardless of my qualifications or knowledge about your particular situation and my lack of any actual studies in psychology 😄
Help this is so funny 😭😭😭😭😭😭
 
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Vyking

Member
Apr 15, 2022
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Most people here have problem with themselves and not directly with life like being ill, having massive debt. (but i guess they don't realise it)
 
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CrossroadsCurious

CrossroadsCurious

"Why do we do what we do?"
Dec 12, 2021
671
Every living being is emotional, especially humans, and even more so people who suffer, whether due to illness, mistreatment, misunderstanding, loss of meaning in life, disappointment, tiredness, disability, etc.

All life revolves around emotions. Some can manage them more than others, as happens in other aspects.

But being emotional doesn't make us bad, or good. Each person has their times, their anxieties, their sufferings, their obligations in this world, and we think a lot to leave the first time.

This is a safe place to let off steam, to say without being criticized "I want to die", "I'm going to do CTB" And if for whatever reason you can't do it at the time you publish it, you don't have to criticize, or a lot less.

We must respect and support, we are all for the same thing in some way; we are not happy, or we have some disease or disability. You cannot generalize on these sensitive issues. We are gathered on this site thanks to a group of good people who created a safe place for us where there is no judgment, nor more damage is done to us like that done to us by people from abroad who do not understand us.

Well said!
 
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its-about-time

its-about-time

nope
Mar 19, 2022
807
I believe life is made worthwhile by emotions, not rationality. Why shouldn't death be the same! That said, I personally advocate for a good period of time to decide… once it's decided, what does it matter if it's acted upon rationally or emotionally?
 
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DontplayGod

She/her
Feb 6, 2022
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So if a 9 year old is mad that they got no ice cream, they should be able to obtain barbiturates to end their adolescent life?
Everyone should be able to have the choice of whether or not they want to die. Everyone should have a dignified and painless death whether by suicide or natural causes. If a 9 year old wants to commit suicide because of ice cream I wouldn't be worried about how the kid got the pills, but rather the kid themselves. There's probably a lot of unresolved anger or trauma if ice cream is the breaking point, personally I've had some traumatic experiences that I held in for a while, but a single minor convince is brick that makes the whole building collapse. So yeah if a 9 year old wants to commit suicide because they didn't get ice cream, they haven't had an easy childhood and they're probably going to have a hard life. That's going to save that kid of a lot of pain and suffering that life is going to bring them.
 
Red Scare

Red Scare

Wizard
Mar 1, 2022
647
Everyone should be able to have the choice of whether or not they want to die. Everyone should have a dignified and painless death whether by suicide or natural causes. If a 9 year old wants to commit suicide because of ice cream I wouldn't be worried about how the kid got the pills, but rather the kid themselves. There's probably a lot of unresolved anger or trauma if ice cream is the breaking point, personally I've had some traumatic experiences that I held in for a while, but a single minor convince is brick that makes the whole building collapse. So yeah if a 9 year old wants to commit suicide because they didn't get ice cream, they haven't had an easy childhood and they're probably going to have a hard life. That's going to save that kid of a lot of pain and suffering that life is going to bring them.
That's insane. Kids are not rational, they throw tantrums al,the time if you sy they can't have ice cream for dinner. This is just crazy.
 
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DontplayGod

She/her
Feb 6, 2022
123
That's insane. Kids are not rational, they throw tantrums al,the time if you sy they can't have ice cream for dinner. This is just crazy.
When most kids throw a tantrum they stomp up and down and scream. I think what's crazy is you truly believe that a kid is able to overcome survival instinct, and suddenly develop suicidal tendencies because they didn't want to eat broccoli. There are some serious underlying issues if a kid decides to end their life after throwing a tantrum, it's not about the tantrum, that was just the breaking point after a pile of unresolved problems stacked up on each other. It's like a trash can, you can throw stuff away without taking it out for a certain amount of time, but eventually it's going to overflow and something small like a banana Peel can make the whole thing spill. Most kids have little in that trash can, so when the banana Peel is put in the garbage they're fine, but a kid with an already overflowing garbage the banana makes it all fall over.
 

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