opheliaoveragain

opheliaoveragain

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Jun 2, 2024
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10+ year benzo user and abuser here.

I can't possibly reply to all SN threads wondering about benzos, so I figured I'd put this out there this way. Let's go ahead and say you have everything gathered together for an SN protocol; everything is sorted, you're trying to figure out HOW MUCH and maybe WHEN you should take the benzo in your protocol.

Ask yourself and research the following:

1. Which benzo is it? They are not all the same, some are meant for panic attacks with 5-6 hours of being active in the body, for example, regular (not extended release) Xanax, Xanax kicks in very fast as it formulated to. Some are meant to mange general anxiety and last 12 hours or so, for example Klonopin.

2. What is the onset of the benzo you have access to? This will dictate when you need to take it with your protocol. Please also take into account that you will not have anything of note in your stomach to absorb it assuming you have fasting, so it will hit faster. Take this in account.

3. Keep in mind that if you have ZERO BENZO TOLERANCE, you will likely feel the affects very strongly, this has caused several people to pass out or further be unable to complete their SN protocol, and they essentially wake up the next day or so (Benzo's alone are NOT FATAL (generally), don't try it, don't waste them.)

I'm sure there are things I missed. Please feel free to drop any questions etc below.
 
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phoebie467

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This is my plan: https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/is-my-sn-protocol-ok.177372/

I'd like you to give me some tips on how I could fit benzo into the protocol, could taking a 2mg pill (along with ibuprofen) 1 hour before the SN increase the chances of vomiting?

According to the benzos comparison image below, alprazolam causes average sleep (Is there any risk of waking up during CTB?), diazepam seems to be the most balanced, with a greater sedative power than alprazolam, and the strongest of all seems to be flunitrazepam.

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I bought alprazolam just because the vizzy guide mentioned that Xanax was one of the preferable benzos. But now I'm in doubt.

If I had access to other benzos, should I switch to a more powerful one?
 
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opheliaoveragain

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Jun 2, 2024
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This is my plan: https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/is-my-sn-protocol-ok.177372/

I'd like you to give me some tips on how I could fit benzo into the protocol, could taking a 2mg pill (along with ibuprofen) 1 hour before the SN increase the chances of vomiting?

According to the benzos comparison image below, alprazolam causes average sleep (Is there any risk of waking up during CTB?), diazepam seems to be the most balanced, with a greater sedative power than alprazolam, and the strongest of all seems to be flunitrazepam.

akUy6bx.jpeg


I bought alprazolam just because the vizzy guide mentioned that Xanax was one of the preferable benzos. But now I'm in doubt.

If I had access to other benzos, should I switch to a more powerful one?
Re: SN, you're pretty likely to puke no matter what, that's why a second (and third, sometimes) glass are usually mentioned. It's about the buildup of SN in the body, that's why it's 25g per drink. As long as the benzo has time to absorb, you wont lose it puking, IB is kinda whatever, I'm not so sure on what that would do.

Re: Benzo, stronger if you have no tolerance isn't always better and Xanax is very reliable in terms of onset and absorption. The issue is, with a huge dose of any benzo, OR with something very strong… with assumedly not an addicts level of tolerance to benzos, or zero tolerance, regular user tolerance, etc, you could take too much before SN and in those 15 or whatever minutes between the two you'll get hit by the benzo and pass out (not CTB) and just wake up the next day.
 
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lnlybnny

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I wonder what happens when a person never had benzos before takes them a few hours before just to use the SN? Should they take benzos weeks in advance to see the reaction?
 
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divinemistress36

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I wonder what happens when a person never had benzos before takes them a few hours before just to use the SN? Should they take benzos weeks in advance to see the reaction?
I would cause they can make you really sleepy if you havent used them before and you dont want to pass out before taking SN
 
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phoebie467

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Re: SN, you're pretty likely to puke no matter what, that's why a second (and third, sometimes) glass are usually mentioned. It's about the buildup of SN in the body, that's why it's 25g per drink. As long as the benzo has time to absorb, you wont lose it puking, IB is kinda whatever, I'm not so sure on what that would do.

Got it. I think I'll adopt the idea of drinking the cup with benzos a few minutes before the SN drink, just to make sure it's absorbed.

Re: Benzo, stronger if you have no tolerance isn't always better and Xanax is very reliable in terms of onset and absorption. The issue is, with a huge dose of any benzo, OR with something very strong… with assumedly not an addicts level of tolerance to benzos, or zero tolerance, regular user tolerance, etc, you could take too much before SN and in those 15 or whatever minutes between the two you'll get hit by the benzo and pass out (not CTB) and just wake up the next day.

I don't think I have any tolerance. So far, I've only had four 2mg tablets, on different days, just to test their sedative effect. It was the first time in my life that I had used benzo.

Although I did experience what I believe was a side effect: after test it for the fourth time, I spent a few days unable to sleep, I don't think I felt sleepy for about a week. It's as if my body was becoming dependent on the benzo to be able to sleep. Today I feel sleepy normally, and have avoided taking it ever since.

Thanks for the advices, I'm more motivated now.
 
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Got it. I think I'll adopt the idea of drinking the cup with benzos a few minutes before the SN drink, just to make sure it's absorbed.



I don't think I have any tolerance. So far, I've only had four 2mg tablets, on different days, just to test their sedative effect. It was the first time in my life that I had used benzo.

Although I did experience what I believe was a side effect: after test it for the fourth time, I spent a few days unable to sleep, I don't think I felt sleepy for about a week. It's as if my body was becoming dependent on the benzo to be able to sleep. Today I feel sleepy normally, and have avoided taking it ever since.

Thanks for the advices, I'm more motivated now.
It might need more than a few minutes but that term means different things to different people, but if it's Xanax like you said, it's fast but give it at least 5-10 min to be sure if its important to help manage the affects for you.
It might need more than a few minutes but that term means different things to different people, but if it's Xanax like you said, it's fast but give it at least 5-10 min to be sure if its important to help manage the affects for you.
Also be careful how much extra liquid is in your protocol, you can just take the pill w a sip of water vs enough for however much to dissolve. Your body gets used to benzos extremely fast so you are likely right but you were also right to test for sure.
 
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Xanax works fast and tastes awful so not much to worry about in terms of onset time. For pretty much all other benzos, I'd recommend clonazepam or diazepam (they taste fine), you can chew the pills then hold under your tongue for faster onset. They get into the bloodstream in 5-10 min instead of taking time to digest through your stomach.
 
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