Wolf Girl

Wolf Girl

Not looking for advice or a pep talk
Jun 12, 2024
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I (32f) tried. I really did. I tried dating and making friends. I tried doing "fun" things and participating in life. But I'm meant to be lonely in a crowded room. I'm meant to stick out like a sore thumb yet only attract sexual attention, never any interest in who I am. I wish I had died on my first attempt 20 years ago. Nothing that has happened since has been worth all the suffering.
 
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pain6batch9

Chronic
Aug 25, 2024
184
My problem is I have nothing to offer people. Blah blah blah, society taught to demand transactional relationships, blah blah blah, we're all individuals blah blah blah, people are all a-holes.

I can't do it anymore. I can't pretend to be a person who isn't me. I'm a weirdo. I want a very particular type of woman. I'm being honest here, friends are great, but I want a relationship. With someone who won't just use me for sex. I've switched off the tap now until the right one comes.

But I've got nothing to offer her. I can't give her security. I can't give her a stable financial income. I can't give her modern political correctness. Shiiit, I can't even give her sanity. What the hell am I supposed to do with that?
 
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Wolf Girl

Not looking for advice or a pep talk
Jun 12, 2024
200
My problem is I have nothing to offer people. Blah blah blah, society taught to demand transactional relationships, blah blah blah, we're all individuals blah blah blah, people are all a-holes.

I can't do it anymore. I can't pretend to be a person who isn't me. I'm a weirdo. I want a very particular type of woman. I'm being honest here, friends are great, but I want a relationship. With someone who won't just use me for sex. I've switched off the tap now until the right one comes.

But I've got nothing to offer her. I can't give her security. I can't give her a stable financial income. I can't give her modern political correctness. Shiiit, I can't even give her sanity. What the hell am I supposed to do with that?
Dating is ridiculously hard and it seems that the average person is lucky just to find someone who doesn't abuse them.
 
pain6batch9

pain6batch9

Chronic
Aug 25, 2024
184
Dating is ridiculously hard and it seems that the average person is lucky just to find someone who doesn't abuse them.
Dating is so hard I gave up. Now I just look at people in the street and wonder what it would be like to be in a relationship with them.
 
maniac116

maniac116

My own worst enemy🌹💔
Aug 10, 2024
839
I'm pretty alone but am so used to it that I usually don't think too much about it. I've taken up hobbies etc.
But at times I see or hear of others who are beloved by many people & wonder why it can't be me.
Truth is I probably wouldn't know what to do with popularity any way🌹💔
 
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Soupster

Soupster

Chasing dreams, catching nightmares
Aug 14, 2024
184
Loneliness is a killer. I've managed to ignore it for a long time, but I just feel so hollow and empty. Looking for a relationship is nigh impossible as an adult when you're not conventionally attractive and are so down you have little to offer someone. I wouldn't date me... how could I expect anyone else to?

But today I got hit with the bat of soul crushing loneliness when I woke up and trying to pull myself out of that rut just isn't working...
 
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pain6batch9

Chronic
Aug 25, 2024
184
Loneliness is a killer. I've managed to ignore it for a long time, but I just feel so hollow and empty. Looking for a relationship is nigh impossible as an adult when you're not conventionally attractive and are so down you have little to offer someone. I wouldn't date me... how could I expect anyone else to?

But today I got hit with the bat of soul crushing loneliness when I woke up and trying to pull myself out of that rut just isn't working...
It clings to you like duct tape.
 
RoadToGehenna

RoadToGehenna

Member
Aug 7, 2024
33
I (32f) tried. I really did. I tried dating and making friends. I tried doing "fun" things and participating in life. But I'm meant to be lonely in a crowded room. I'm meant to stick out like a sore thumb yet only attract sexual attention, never any interest in who I am. I wish I had died on my first attempt 20 years ago. Nothing that has happened since has been worth all the suffering.

Dating is so hard I gave up. Now I just look at people in the street and wonder what it would be like to be in a relationship with them.

I'm pretty alone but am so used to it that I usually don't think too much about it. I've taken up hobbies etc.
But at times I see or hear of others who are beloved by many people & wonder why it can't be me.
Truth is I probably wouldn't know what to do with popularity any way🌹💔

Loneliness is a killer. I've managed to ignore it for a long time, but I just feel so hollow and empty. Looking for a relationship is nigh impossible as an adult when you're not conventionally attractive and are so down you have little to offer someone. I wouldn't date me... how could I expect anyone else to?

But today I got hit with the bat of soul crushing loneliness when I woke up and trying to pull myself out of that rut just isn't working...

26 here. I resonate with your feelings about loliness and dating. I've isolated myself most of my life, focusing on my hobbies and career, and I feel like the few friends I've maintained (including my ex) were pretty superficial. Don't you have the certainty that if you stopped reaching out, almost no one would really notice? Idk, at this point I'm depressed and don't really give a fck about myself so it will only get worse. Been completely alone in a new city for a year where I barely know anyone. It really kills you, not being able to share your pain and your love, to connect with people. It's egotistical, but life isn't worth living like this..
Being strangers, it's easier to open up. If anyone wants to DM me, I'll happily chat you up if you want. There's nothing to lose, no one will hate you more than youself. At least we have some empathy and honesty over here.
 
Nofxfan

Nofxfan

Member
Jan 6, 2024
13
I've always felt alone in school I had no friends my stepfather was abusive to me and I had to go live with my grandfather, I want to meet people and talk to them but I can't because I feel unworthy of peoples time. I want to ask people about their dreams, what they want to do in life and their stance of philosophy but I just can't. Everytime someone comes up to me I just freeze up
 
Shrike

Shrike

My pain isn't yours to harvest.
Feb 13, 2024
100
Just wanting to vent. Haven't been on this site for a good amount of months but I've been feeling heavy lately and there's nobody for me to really talk to about it and this has before been one of the few places where people both seem to get it, actually read what people write (well maybe not this long ass post), and don't throw useless platitudes at you.

Loneliness is a bitch and I'm continually failing to escape its influence. I think if I just lived alone in a bunker or something I might have actually been fine, but I'm constantly exposed by demonstration upon demonstration of loads of other people absolutely not having my problem, and then sometimes I engage in various scenarios where I have to talk about my life and I don't enjoy my lack of contacts being on display. I'm always the one person around who's single.

I'm not "technically" alone, and people around me may not even assume there's a problem. Or maybe I stand out enough that they do. I'm not quite sure. One of my friends calls me their best friend, but they don't seem to understand or get or acknowledge that I hide 95% of my self from them because I can just smell how much they don't like it when I'm more open. How curt and preachy they get. I always feel constant leftover embarrassment if I have a drink and say a bit too much, whether it's about my inner turmoil or simply about things I like.

What is my problem really? I mean, fundamentally, I'm just odd. I don't think the way most people do. I don't know how this happened because for me it was just the natural thing. You grow and you develop your own opinions on things. Well, sometimes you develop a bit too much of your own opinions and other people don't get you and you don't get them. Been thinking I could find other similar oddballs but no luck, it doesn't seem anyone else particularly shares that kind of yearning for a connection between people who see the world differently. I've asked in places and all I get back is apathy.

I probably have some degree of autism, somewhere in the region of "can mask well enough to pass an employment gauntlet, but not well enough for people to not be weirded out once we get past initial introductions". I can do shallow, but never deep, nobody wants my deep. It's also hilariously draining to mask constantly, I should just get into acting or something. Platonic or romantic level, really doesn't matter I'm quite fine with deep platonic connections, too, but people kind of suck at deep platonic connections, usually takes romance to get there.

I'm not particularly conventionally attractive, I'm 34 now, and, worse yet, I don't do the whole performative femininity thing. It's alien to me, I feel nothing towards it. A tomboy they call it. My taste in guys is quite varied but that really doesn't seem to be the case in the other direction at all, honestly at times I wonder if men really like women, as in, as-is, as we are born. I know it's a problem because I send pictures to people and they stop talking. I don't wear dresses or makeup. I am not into any of such things, even if I wanted to give it a try I legitimately don't know how and zero bones in my body know or care for what I am doing there. My idea of a good set of clothing is a waterproof jacket and hiking boots.

I dream about a small-cute-but-dangerous man to watch/discuss TV shows/movies with and explore a questionable forest or abandoned building. I mean, if you're never going to get anything might as well go for your most unrealistic scenario ah?

---

I mean on paper it's all good. I'm in a great country with extensive safety nets, I have a job that pays well, I even have my own place. I'm just, alone. I have to remind myself it's just always going to be... just me. I have to live in my own head while people tell me how that's unhealthy. Anything that stresses me? People don't want to hear it. Struggles? Don't want to hear it. Insecurities? Just gross. I mean, I get it. But the one that really cuts deep, is anything I'm into I can't share either. I talk to imaginary people in my head because I got nothing else. Anything cool I find or something I feel a certain kind of way about there's nobody for me to share it with except literal strangers on the internet.

And never ever will be. I just have to accept that fact now. And is that a life worth living?

Nobody needs shit from me, either. The only thing I really have to offer is money. I've thrown money at plenty of things. I donate to a bunch of stuff. It's always very one sided, of course. And we're told we shouldn't care that it's one sided.

Sometimes I think the issue is my job. The industry moved not where I wish it did and it brings me no joy these days, nor do I feel it contributes much back to society. But I don't really have much in the way of other skills and you need to be best of the best to really get into most other fields I think of + I have a mortgage to pay so I can't just become a delivery person.

I've increased my number of hobbies. I mean, what else can you do but keep yourself busy, right? I still play the violin and I'm getting better at it. I write, I draw. Of course, none of these things I do amazingly, and it takes about 5-10 years to get to anything anywhere near all right at them. I run 3 times a week, I do calisthenics. I'm in a language class. It's not that much, and I sense that, truly, a person is expected to do more. A lot more. From an earlier age. I am barely able to keep afloat with the schedule and routine I've setup right now, keeping it at 100% takes basically all the energy I have on my person.

I feel like that's the message I can't wipe from my mind. A person is supposed to be a certain way and hit a few points for others to be able to socialize with them. Maybe you can be pretty, I am not. Maybe you can be "fun to be around", whatever that means, I am not. Fall in line with a political position, not great at that, either. Beyond that perhaps you could be useful, but I'm not that, either, I'm at best mediocre at most things I do and there's a superior replacement somewhere, I've always been more a dabbler than someone who picks one thing and feels super passionate about it.

All in all I'm just not what people want, really at any level? I mean there are 8 billion people and I can't find someone to shoot the shit with? The message is that I'm supposed to pull some energy from somewhere to make myself good enough, but the well is dry. And it'd take maybe a decade to get there. A decade where I am just, completely alone, day in, day out, like this. I'm really not that strong. A lot of us are just this useless and undesirable and we either make ourselves desirable or just exist like this and grind at life. I think in the past, in a harsher environment, perhaps I would have just been dead, and that would have been a mercy.

I really don't think I want to live like this for the rest of my life.
 
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Tac0Johnz

Potato Olé
Sep 19, 2024
92
My only friends were my drawings and my cringey OCs, I'll be lonely to the grave, maybe it was my destiny.
 
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AbsurdAbyss

AbsurdAbyss

Lost, broken, empty, fragmented.
Mar 4, 2024
113
i've been lonely for too long now, i feel like i've lost myself, like i'm barely human anymore. i regret constantly hurting others even when i don't want to. i've never felt like i belonged anywhere, its impossible to explain this to someone who does not understand, hasn't felt it themselves, every time i try i end up sounding disingenous at best and disappointing, disrespectful at worst. i don't know if this is a blessing or a curse and i don't care - i hate this. everytime i try talking to someone i'm forced to reconcile with the painful truth that i simply don't matter to anyone and never will as long as i live - this is enough to suffocate me alive. i sincerely hoped to find atleast some semblance of company here but i couldn't have been more wrong - i feel stupid, terrible for even trying to now that i know, here as in other places, real life - people only ever see what they want, conveniently ignore the rest, no one really cares about suffering they don't see, much less feel. knowing this doesn't change a thing, it just hurts so much worse to suffer in silence because of it.
 
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hopemeetshopeless

Member
Sep 20, 2024
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I feel this. I have heard a quote that goes "if your lonely when you're alone, you're in bad company". If that's true, I've pretty much been in bad company when I'm alone, which is most of the time, all my life. I thought I was autistic too. I still do. A therapist I discussed it with insisted it wasn't autism but ADHD which I got on medication for. Tried 2 months find work or or help. I don't know how to communicate with normal people. I can't always read people's intentions through their speech or facial expressions accurately. If someone doesn't have the same I intense obsessions with one of my very few extremely limit and specialized interests, I can't relate to them or know what to talk about. And I'm I to really underground art and like things that aren't well known or popular to masses so it makes that really really hard. I used to have friends. They have all literally abandoned me slowly over time. I had one good friend left. Well really one friend at all period. We'd been friends for years. He just stopped talking to me about 2 weeks ago after he t essentially told me that I'm a loser and sent me a 3 paragraph message dissecting my character telling me what a weak waste of life I am (unprovoked and completely out of the blue).

Well I used to have a bigger social network but a lot of things happened making that circle shrink. I used to be a drug dealer (only psychedelics, no harmful stuff) and used psychedelics all the time. I was in a much better state then. I was living in my van traveling, had almost no bills or responsibilities. I was making music and going to concerts, festivals and parties every week. I had finally found a group of friends I thought was my family in a sense. We all trusted and took care of each other. Well the friend Group fell apart. The people in the group all slowly started having interpersonal drama and in fighting to the point no one hung out together anymore.

Then covid happened. Everything shut down and none of us where going out anymore. A lot of close friends moved away. A lot of them have kids, wives, new careers that keep them from having free time to hang out anymore. But ago covid my friends started going out again but I never did. I've always had anxiety when I went out to social things. People invite me and then I just clam up in a panic attack and sit in the corner. People invite me out and then just ignore me and don't talk to me. It's happened more times than I can count. Like why invite me if no one is gonna interact with me at all. They used to kind of be able to bring me out of my shell, but no one even cares to try anymore. I haven't had social media in almost a year now. I was posting hinting and sometimes just straight out admitting on social that I'm very lonely and very suicidal. No one ever reached out. It's like I'm invisible. A ghost. Already dead. So I deleted socials after telling everyone I'm very unwell and suicidal. In the last 6 months no one has called at all. No one has texted. Not to check on me. Not to see if I'm ok or even still alive, no one has reached out to hang out or invite me to do something, not a single fuckin time. And I've tried to initiate. I've called old friends. Goes to voicemail, never calls me back. I text old friends. Ask to hang out or just how they are. No response. Ghosted or left on Read. And then the maybe less than 5% of time period respond or agree to hang out the day comes to do the plans and they go ghost and just stop responding and don't show up or explain why. And this Happen over and over. I don't think I've changed so idk why everyone hates me now. Literally 90% of my social circle doesn't even know it I'm alive. Genuinely, for all they know I already could be dead, because no one checks on me, ever. And then, once literally have the noise around my neck or the gun in my mouth, I text the few people I care about and let them know I might not be around and am planning to ctb. THEN some of them respond, pretend to care all of a sudden after never being there in any way at all. They say "oh I love you, oh you matter, oh I care, oh it would destroy me if you ctb". They will tell me how great I am and how much I "mean" to them. You all have heard all the automatic responses people say when you are suicidal. It gets exhausting. Truly draining. And they tricked me for a while. But Everytime that it happens they tell me they care and are gonna start being there and how sorry they are for being bad friends and never putting any effort into maintaining the relationship at all. Then they just disappear again and go ghost. Every one is so full of shit. They try to trick you into "talking about it". "Just talk about it!". No I doi want to, it won't help and will make me feel worse because no one ever understands and just tries to argue with me. "Awh come on it might make you feel better to talk it out". Then you the to explain and no one understands. Not only do they not understand, but they gaslit you. They try to make you feel crazy for thinking and feeling what you do. And what sucks is you can be the logic one. You can use facts, evidence, science and a litiny of other proof to support your case for why ending your life is not only justified, but 100% logical. But they just try to argue with you, prove you wrong with no evidence, just say stupid cliche overused saying that never help that everyone has already heard. I'm so tired of it. I'm so tired of every fuckin person I try to talk to about my suicidality invalidating my feelings and gaslighting me. People don't listen. People without depression or mental illness don't understand. They don't even try to. They are so cold and sterile in their responses. No empathy. No one without depression has any genuine fuckin empathy at all for us.

My fake friends all tell me they love me if I do run Into them. Where there is no communication there is no compassion. Where there is no compassion there is no empathy. Where there is no empathy there is no love. You can't claim to care about me and leave me on read or ghost me every time I call or text you. You can't claim to care about me and constantly make plans with me and never follow through. You can't care about me when I'm the only one who's put any effort into trying to maintain the relationship at all. People don't care. Those that think they do have been lying to themselves. You can't reason with people who lie to themselves. No one can admit it they are wrong ever. Even if you show them all the evidence to prove a point people will do the emotional equivalent to flipping over the whole game when they start to lose in conversation.

And then every woman I've dated used and cheated on me despite me doing everything I could to make them happy even if at my own happinesses expense. I've never asked a woman out, every one I've dated approached and showed me interest and attention first. I'm unable to even make eye contact with a woman I'm attracted to without them Initiating me first. I will die alone.
Sorry for the extremely long response, this is just something that's been on my mind constantly.
Just wanting to vent. Haven't been on this site for a good amount of months but I've been feeling heavy lately and there's nobody for me to really talk to about it and this has before been one of the few places where people both seem to get it, actually read what people write (well maybe not this long ass post), and don't throw useless platitudes at you.

Loneliness is a bitch and I'm continually failing to escape its influence. I think if I just lived alone in a bunker or something I might have actually been fine, but I'm constantly exposed by demonstration upon demonstration of loads of other people absolutely not having my problem, and then sometimes I engage in various scenarios where I have to talk about my life and I don't enjoy my lack of contacts being on display. I'm always the one person around who's single.

I'm not "technically" alone, and people around me may not even assume there's a problem. Or maybe I stand out enough that they do. I'm not quite sure. One of my friends calls me their best friend, but they don't seem to understand or get or acknowledge that I hide 95% of my self from them because I can just smell how much they don't like it when I'm more open. How curt and preachy they get. I always feel constant leftover embarrassment if I have a drink and say a bit too much, whether it's about my inner turmoil or simply about things I like.

What is my problem really? I mean, fundamentally, I'm just odd. I don't think the way most people do. I don't know how this happened because for me it was just the natural thing. You grow and you develop your own opinions on things. Well, sometimes you develop a bit too much of your own opinions and other people don't get you and you don't get them. Been thinking I could find other similar oddballs but no luck, it doesn't seem anyone else particularly shares that kind of yearning for a connection between people who see the world differently. I've asked in places and all I get back is apathy.

I probably have some degree of autism, somewhere in the region of "can mask well enough to pass an employment gauntlet, but not well enough for people to not be weirded out once we get past initial introductions". I can do shallow, but never deep, nobody wants my deep. It's also hilariously draining to mask constantly, I should just get into acting or something. Platonic or romantic level, really doesn't matter I'm quite fine with deep platonic connections, too, but people kind of suck at deep platonic connections, usually takes romance to get there.

I'm not particularly conventionally attractive, I'm 34 now, and, worse yet, I don't do the whole performative femininity thing. It's alien to me, I feel nothing towards it. A tomboy they call it. My taste in guys is quite varied but that really doesn't seem to be the case in the other direction at all, honestly at times I wonder if men really like women, as in, as-is, as we are born. I know it's a problem because I send pictures to people and they stop talking. I don't wear dresses or makeup. I am not into any of such things, even if I wanted to give it a try I legitimately don't know how and zero bones in my body know or care for what I am doing there. My idea of a good set of clothing is a waterproof jacket and hiking boots.

I dream about a small-cute-but-dangerous man to watch/discuss TV shows/movies with and explore a questionable forest or abandoned building. I mean, if you're never going to get anything might as well go for your most unrealistic scenario ah?

---

I mean on paper it's all good. I'm in a great country with extensive safety nets, I have a job that pays well, I even have my own place. I'm just, alone. I have to remind myself it's just always going to be... just me. I have to live in my own head while people tell me how that's unhealthy. Anything that stresses me? People don't want to hear it. Struggles? Don't want to hear it. Insecurities? Just gross. I mean, I get it. But the one that really cuts deep, is anything I'm into I can't share either. I talk to imaginary people in my head because I got nothing else. Anything cool I find or something I feel a certain kind of way about there's nobody for me to share it with except literal strangers on the internet.

And never ever will be. I just have to accept that fact now. And is that a life worth living?

Nobody needs shit from me, either. The only thing I really have to offer is money. I've thrown money at plenty of things. I donate to a bunch of stuff. It's always very one sided, of course. And we're told we shouldn't care that it's one sided.

Sometimes I think the issue is my job. The industry moved not where I wish it did and it brings me no joy these days, nor do I feel it contributes much back to society. But I don't really have much in the way of other skills and you need to be best of the best to really get into most other fields I think of + I have a mortgage to pay so I can't just become a delivery person.

I've increased my number of hobbies. I mean, what else can you do but keep yourself busy, right? I still play the violin and I'm getting better at it. I write, I draw. Of course, none of these things I do amazingly, and it takes about 5-10 years to get to anything anywhere near all right at them. I run 3 times a week, I do calisthenics. I'm in a language class. It's not that much, and I sense that, truly, a person is expected to do more. A lot more. From an earlier age. I am barely able to keep afloat with the schedule and routine I've setup right now, keeping it at 100% takes basically all the energy I have on my person.

I feel like that's the message I can't wipe from my mind. A person is supposed to be a certain way and hit a few points for others to be able to socialize with them. Maybe you can be pretty, I am not. Maybe you can be "fun to be around", whatever that means, I am not. Fall in line with a political position, not great at that, either. Beyond that perhaps you could be useful, but I'm not that, either, I'm at best mediocre at most things I do and there's a superior replacement somewhere, I've always been more a dabbler than someone who picks one thing and feels super passionate about it.

All in all I'm just not what people want, really at any level? I mean there are 8 billion people and I can't find someone to shoot the shit with? The message is that I'm supposed to pull some energy from somewhere to make myself good enough, but the well is dry. And it'd take maybe a decade to get there. A decade where I am just, completely alone, day in, day out, like this. I'm really not that strong. A lot of us are just this useless and undesirable and we either make ourselves desirable or just exist like this and grind at life. I think in the past, in a harsher environment, perhaps I would have just been dead, and that would have been a mercy.

I really don't think I want to live like this for the rest of my life.
I feel this legitimately. I think it's good you have hobbies that keep you busy. Maybe you put your attention into music, writing and drawing to distract you (or whatever hobbies you actually enjoy doing in the process,). If you do you might eventually meet someone that way, no guarantee of course. But at least you will have developed a specialize skill to feel confident about worst scenario. This is what I used to do before I was too depressed to do any of the things I love anymore. It used to help me fwiw.
 
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Sep 21, 2024
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I wasn't going to make an account on this site but I saw this thread and I wanted to share my experiences.

I was born into a cult. I'm technically still in it because my parents make me go. I can't get out because the economy is fucked and I'm too disabled and white to get a job or even TRY to live on my own.

I'm autistic. Just enough to be incredibly socially inept and off-putting to any employers but not enough to collect disability checks or be blissfully unaware of how dogshit my "life" is.

Ever since I was a child, I've been ugly. Extremely. Even when I was a baby, I was never "cute". I looked/look like a goblin. I get depressed when I see a photo of myself or look into a mirror. Add weight issues, I've been mocked and excluded just because of the way I look. Whenever I tried to interact with anybody I was branded as annoying. The only people who talked to me did it out of pity. I have never had a true friend in my entire life.

Now, I'm 18. I can't drive. I can't get a job. I stumbled through school and got below average grades. My chances of getting into and paying for college are absolutely bunk. There are no "alternative" career centers like trade schools or apprenticeships or whatever in my area. My life is over. I am done.

I am extremely resentful to everyone around me. They've done absolutely nothing for me. I've been on my own for my whole life. Really, it's their fault. They kick you, push you down, spit on you, exclude you but you're the problem because you're lonely and it must be your fault right? I have had enough of everybody.

Will I CTB? I don't think so. I've thought about it. My ego is too big. I can't fathom no longer existing and not being able to think. Is it selfish and stupid? Yes, but I can't get over it. If I lose my mind and that no longer matters, I don't think I could KMS and leave it at that. They must be punished for what they've done to me. I'll leave it at that.
 

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