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Pessimist

Pessimist

Wizard
May 5, 2021
601
I hate living in a militaristic society and I hate what Israel is currently doing in Gaza (which I consider to be genocidal warfare). The war with Iran seems like the entire thing all over again. My family's pro-war position is extremely concerning to me and I no longer think that they are moral people. The whole thing is basically making me question if life is really worth living and the answer is no, at least not in Israel. I know that things could be worse, but I truly envy people who live in civilized, democratic states
 
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bankai

bankai

Visionary
Mar 16, 2025
2,194
I'm getting sick of it myself. Although I don't live in Israel, I'm having a tough time understanding why all this conflict isn't stopping or at least slowing down,damn.

It's like there's something new every day.

I've seen YouTube videos of guys and girls walking around Israel with assault rifles and I've just been floored by it. It's kind of crazy. You hit the nail on the head calling it a militaristic society.

It's like something out of a video game or Halo USMC.
 
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Carrot

Carrot

Mage
Feb 25, 2025
502
Sorry about your situation, war is pretty much as bad as it gets. Can't we just get along? Apparently not.
 
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NoIdeaForAUsername

Member
Aug 27, 2023
56
I hate living in a militaristic society and I hate what Israel is currently doing in Gaza (which I consider to be genocidal warfare). The war with Iran seems like the entire thing all over again. My family's pro-war position is extremely concerning to me and I no longer think that they are moral people. The whole thing is basically making me question if life is really worth living and the answer is no, at least not in Israel. I know that things could be worse, but I truly envy people who live in civilized, democratic states
There is no true democracy, its just an illusion of power for the people. Democracy is just a way to control stupid people like a cattle, by making them think their votes actually matter.
 
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Pessimist

Pessimist

Wizard
May 5, 2021
601
I'm getting sick of it myself. Although I don't live in Israel, I'm having a tough time understanding why all this conflict isn't stopping or at least slowing down,damn.

It's like there's something new every day.

I've seen YouTube videos of guys and girls walking around Israel with assault rifles and I've just been floored by it. It's kind of crazy. You hit the nail on the head calling it a militaristic society.

It's like something out of a video game or Halo USMC.
Yeah... it's really bad.
 
2muchpain2

2muchpain2

Member
Feb 27, 2025
51
I'm so sorry you have to deal with this. watching it unfold from california makes me suicidal as well, so i can't imagine how you must feel.
 
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LeavingEarly

LeavingEarly

Specialist
Mar 19, 2022
376
There is no true democracy, its just an illusion of power for the people. Democracy is just a way to control stupid people like a cattle, by making them think their votes actually matter.
I think Switzerland has a true democracy
 
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locked*n*loaded

locked*n*loaded

Archangel
Apr 15, 2022
9,117
The US is driving a bunch of people to suicide, too. Not meaning to diminish your situation at all, but I think it's bad all over. But, I do know you all have it pretty bad there in Israel, though. Too much of this whole damn world is war-mongering assholes. It's never going to change. History shows us that.
 
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endlessmelancholy

endlessmelancholy

Student
Jun 12, 2024
152
I know war is tough but hamas did want a genocide on jews and entire Gaza celebrated October 7. I am from India and there was a terror attack in here too. First the terrorists attack civilians and when we attack the terrorists they form human shields and play victim. Thankfully our conflict has temporarily ended. I hope your conflict also ends soon.
 
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Pessimist

Pessimist

Wizard
May 5, 2021
601
I know war is tough but hamas did want a genocide on jews and entire Gaza celebrated October 7. I am from India and there was a terror attack in here too. First the terrorists attack civilians and when we attack the terrorists they form human shields and play victim. Thankfully our conflict has temporarily ended. I hope your conflict also ends soon.
I agree that October 7 was horrifying (especially killing 400 people in a music festival, that was really disgusting). At the same time, just as I wouldn't want to kill neo-Nazis, I wouldn't want to kill Gazans just because they support the killing of Jews (and some of them don't even support it). I'd even argue that Hamas members who didn't participate in October 7 shouldn't necessarily be killed.

I'm glad things are better in India though. But I heard about that plane crash and it seems like a lot of people were killed there. The world is in a terrible state right now.
 
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Pessimist

Pessimist

Wizard
May 5, 2021
601
I don't think things can get better from now on. I might have to start planning my suicide again.
 
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Pessimist

Pessimist

Wizard
May 5, 2021
601
I wish I could live in another country. Half of my problems would be solved.
 
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nobodycaresaboutme

nobodycaresaboutme

maybe my English kinda sucks
Jun 30, 2025
166
Sorry your country is persuing reckless military ambitions. It's heartbreaking for you to suffer from this situation because of having rational thought and kind nature that hates war. I hope the warfare ends immediately. If it is impossible, I hope you can leave the country.
 
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Pessimist

Pessimist

Wizard
May 5, 2021
601
Sorry your country is persuing reckless military ambitions. It's heartbreaking for you to suffer from this situation because of having rational thought and kind nature that hates war. I hope the warfare ends immediately. If it is impossible, I hope you can leave the country.
I wish I could leave the country. Unfortunately, that's not possible for me for a number of reasons.
 
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enjoytheride

Student
Jun 29, 2025
115
If for different reasons you can't leave the country now, maybe the best is to hold on until circumstances change and you can move abroad, to study or work. If you haven't got many qualifications that would make it easy for you to find employment abroad, you can always start in a contact centre with Hebrew.

Where I live, in Bulgaria, jobs for Hebrew speakers are frequently advertised by companies such as TELUS Digital and others. TELUS even helps you relocate, providing you with accommodation for the first month and also paying for your tickets. At least they did that for my Portuguese and, I recon, Spanish coworkers. Then you can take it from there - make new friends, explore a new country, learn new skills and live in peace. Note: don't get a content reviewer job, because you could end up having to watch disturbing content. Customer support or customer service are better options.

I hope the war on Gaza ends soon and that both peoples can find peace and security. You are a honourable human being for having the sobriety and moral courage to see things for what they are, even if your family and friends have completely different views.

Best wishes!
 
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nobodycaresaboutme

nobodycaresaboutme

maybe my English kinda sucks
Jun 30, 2025
166
I wish I could leave the country. Unfortunately, that's not possible for me for a number of reasons.
What problems do you have? I don't know much about immigration from Israel, but I wonder there are supports to escape the walfare as @enjoytheride mentioned. If immigration helps avoid CTB, I think it's worth trying. It might also be a good idea to contact jewish anti-zionist organizations.
 
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Worndown

Worndown

Illuminated
Mar 21, 2019
3,823
Israel has become what they most hate. A sad irony.
Living in an area where you have a real possibility to die any and every day cannot help emotional stability.
If you leave us, I hope it is on your terms.
 
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eupdplishlp

eupdplishlp

Please share with me what you are bearing
Jul 15, 2025
235
oh my god I cannot imagine what this is like this sounds like complete and utter tourture!!! I'm so sorry you've had to go through this. I agree its genocide but thats my opinion. in the uk protesters are being arrested for speaking up on it and that alone made me want to throw up. I stay away from news and stuff but even I can see its not right and why arent people allowed to speak up on that?
 
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ididnotconsent

ididnotconsent

Experienced
Mar 16, 2025
203
Yep, so much divides us in ideology and religion that we must go to war over bullshit differences. Shia, Sunni, palestine, israel, black, white, rich, poor, haves, havenots, etc.

There is an endless amount of shit we will squabble and fight over and I'm so done with it.
 
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Pessimist

Pessimist

Wizard
May 5, 2021
601
What problems do you have? I don't know much about immigration from Israel, but I wonder there are supports to escape the walfare as @enjoytheride mentioned. If immigration helps avoid CTB, I think it's worth trying. It might also be a good idea to contact jewish anti-zionist organizations.
I am completely dependent on my family and don't have the financial or social capabilities to move to another country on my own.
 
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nobodycaresaboutme

nobodycaresaboutme

maybe my English kinda sucks
Jun 30, 2025
166
I am completely dependent on my family and don't have the financial or social capabilities to move to another country on my own.
Financial problems are indeed hard to deal with immediately. Sorry things seem bleak for you. If you get ready to look for your liberty, supports are also available in the recovery section. Whatever you decide, good luck 🫂
 
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PI3.14

PI3.14

what is chaos to the fly is normal to the spider
Oct 4, 2024
211
Imo, you will get tired if you keep thinking this. Not saying you're wrong, I'm saying that having such an empathy and good heart will only make you more miserable especially if you're surrounded by people who are pro-war.

Our region, the Middle East, is really trash generally speaking.

If you don't plan to CTB or anything, get your education and work your ass off and go to Europe or Canada. Mind u, not all Europe is doing great either.

Also, look into the possibility of getting another citizenship via ancestry, I remember hearing some countries have that but not sure.

If there is a path for u, other than CTBing, then push towards it, especially if you're still young.

Good luck
 
Pessimist

Pessimist

Wizard
May 5, 2021
601
Imo, you will get tired if you keep thinking this. Not saying you're wrong, I'm saying that having such an empathy and good heart will only make you more miserable especially if you're surrounded by people who are pro-war.

Our region, the Middle East, is really trash generally speaking.

If you don't plan to CTB or anything, get your education and work your ass off and go to Europe or Canada. Mind u, not all Europe is doing great either.

Also, look into the possibility of getting another citizenship via ancestry, I remember hearing some countries have that but not sure.

If there is a path for u, other than CTBing, then push towards it, especially if you're still young.

Good luck
Are you also from here?
 
Michelstaedter

Michelstaedter

Experienced
Feb 25, 2025
205
It's horrible everywhere in its own way.
I'm from Mexico, and it's a piece of shit because of the people. They're talking hominids with a primitive mentality whose goal is to annoy their neighbors just to feel superior (they have complexes). Most of them have complexes and believe themselves superior just because of some stupid, pointless thing.

Personally, I don't hate anyone of any race, nation, religion, or sexual orientation, but there are countries where the laws, censorship, and social problems are horrible, but every country has its serious problems.
For example, I like Japan, but the employment situation is horrible; you can literally die from it. In fact, because of things like this, there's a lot of depression there, added to the fact that people don't even want to have children, among other things. Therefore, there is no perfect place in this world, and if there were, my mind is too emaciated to start from scratch.
 
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PI3.14

PI3.14

what is chaos to the fly is normal to the spider
Oct 4, 2024
211
I guess it's not great there either. The Middle East really sucks.
Yeah, I wish I wasn't born in this region. I came very close once to make it out of here but depression ruined my opportunity.
 
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