KL was on cbc news tonight

[Gonnerr]

KL was on cbc news tonight in Canada, they say there is an investigation but no charge yet.

Fuck society , if all people would be kind and not greedy , maybe people wouldn't be homeless or sick , they could afford healthcare and a nice place to live and they would not look for SN.

They should investigate rat human being for being so sadistic, greedy , violent ,etc.

Investigate all the fucking 'rats' human being for making this world hell.

 

[Zegers]

KL?

 

[ThatStateOfMind]

What or who is KL?

 

[locked*n*loaded]

What the hell is KL?

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

This is horrible. The many pro-lifers on this site could take down any remaining or future sources of SN

The tantacrul video brought a lot more prolifers here. Imo prolifers brought down IC. And now KL is being investigated. Don't click nor post about that video. Everytime someone clicks that dumb video that click or view raises the video's score in the YouTube algorithm which causes the YouTube algorithm to suggest it to more people . Each post about it could cause someone to go click that video.

And now I saw a post here that says KL is being investigated. So LE could have also seen the videos or connected prolifers could have contacted the news agency that contacted LE .Yeah the news agency took down KL and IC but the news agency are pro-lifers or anti-suicide imo imo this is a very dangerous situation for future sources for ctb for people that need to escape current or future suffering, extreme torture.

I went to Tantacrul's profile and didn't click that video to not give the video a higher score in the youtube algortithm I went there to see how many views that video got. That video got 2.6 million views last I saw his profile. and it's constantly rising . It's his most viewed video by far. I would never click on his dumb video and I have no interest in what a pro-lifer youtuber says , just a bunch of lies to take this site down and to make him money.
His next most popular video got only around 800k views.

The pro-lifers are very numerous watching this site already . They are in a war against this site ctb sources and all of us imo . All posts about the Tantacrul video should be banned and or deleted imo so as not to bring even more prolifers here . Although it seems to me it's already too late becuase so many are here and look at what they've done . But why bring more and make Tantacrul more famous give him more money?

Nothing is more important than the ability for a human to be easily able to escape suffering, pain , or torture. That right is being taken away by pro-lifers. The many pro-lifers on this site could take down any remaining or future sources of SN

 

[Gonnerr]

Sorry i cannot give more info , most people know what im talking about , there might be pro lifer here , its time to stop saying too much.

This is horrible.

The tantacrul video brought a lot more prolifers here. Imo those prolifers brought down IC. And now KL is being investigated. Don't click nor post about that video. Everytime someone clicks that dumb video that click or view raises the video's score in the YouTube algorithm which causes the YouTube algorithm to suggest it to more people . Each post about it could cause someone to go click that video.

And now I saw a post here that says KL is being investigated. So LE could have also seen the videos or connected prolifers could have contacted LE . imo this is a very dangerous situation for future sources for ctb for people that need to escape current or future suffering.
I went to Tantacrul's profile and didn't click that video to not give the video a higher score in the youtube algortithm I went there to see how many views that video got. That video got 2.6 million views last I saw his profile. and it's constantly rising . It's his most viewed video by far. would never do that and I have no interest in what a pro-lifer youtuber says , just a bunch of lies to take this site down and .
His next most popular video got only around 800k views.

That guy tantacrul is a pure rat , what everything is wrong about society , yet no word on crazy numbers of mass shooting in USA. Easier to take down one guy than go after the republican and IRA. Tantacrul = rat.

 

[dimstar]

I might be paranoid but I think shots have been fired and the same people they call valuable are the targets. Dont trust people here unless you really know them well enough. Stop giving out sources because people wit 10 messages ask. I don't want to lose this family. It's horrible seeing how they have no problem tar and feathering people who support our human right to die. Please everyone be safe.

 

[Gonnerr]

Even if they take down that site , there is other places but i wont share those places with nobody.

 

[Torch]

This is just terrible, poor guy. Poor us as well, I feel for those not in the US, not able to get from CCS.

 

[tsykoais]

KL?

What or who is KL?

What the hell is KL?

kenneth law, canadian man who provides sn

 

[Obliviate]

Bro wtfffffff. These prolifers are really twisted and cruel literally wanting to watch us suffer than have peace and go out of their ways to "save" us but not make out lives better in any shape or form, infact make it worse.

This is horrible. The many pro-lifers on this site could take down any remaining or future sources of SN

The tantacrul video brought a lot more prolifers here. Imo those prolifers brought down IC. And now KL is being investigated. Don't click nor post about that video. Everytime someone clicks that dumb video that click or view raises the video's score in the YouTube algorithm which causes the YouTube algorithm to suggest it to more people . Each post about it could cause someone to go click that video.

And now I saw a post here that says KL is being investigated. So LE could have also seen the videos or connected prolifers could have contacted the news agency that contacted LE . imo this is a very dangerous situation for future sources for ctb for people that need to escape current or future suffering, extreme torture.

I went to Tantacrul's profile and didn't click that video to not give the video a higher score in the youtube algortithm I went there to see how many views that video got. That video got 2.6 million views last I saw his profile. and it's constantly rising . It's his most viewed video by far. I would never click on his dumb video and I have no interest in what a pro-lifer youtuber says , just a bunch of lies to take this site down and to make him money.
His next most popular video got only around 800k views.

The pro-lifers are very numerous watching this site already . They are in a war against this site ctb sources and all of us imo . All posts about the Tantacrul video should be banned and or deleted imo so as not to bring even more prolifers here . Although it seems to me it's already too late becuase so many are here and look at what they've done . But why bring more and make Tantacrul more famous give him more money?

Nothing is more important than the ability for a human to be easily able to escape suffering, pain , or torture. That right is being taken away by pro-lifers. The many pro-lifers on this site could take down any remaining or future sources of SN

2.6 million?!?! These prolifers really have no life I swear

 

[FuneralCry]

Those pro life people only make suicidal people suffer more and more, the right to die is a basic human right, even the journalists could end up wanting to die as existing could easily get much more unbearable for anyone after all. I bet they would wish that SN is still an option then. But it will always be inhumane forcing people to suffer against their wishes and leaving them with no choice to resort to brutal and risky methods, it disgusts me how suicide is becoming more and more impossible. Do all those pro life people really want to be tortured by old age.

 

[exploitedbacteria]

This is crazy.

I ordered a kit from KL via email last week after EM was shut down. It was supposed to be delivered yesterday but never showed up. The state police just showed up at my door and said the kit was intercepted in Canada and they had asked my local police to come do a welfare check. This was scary.

How did that go?

 

[Caoine01]

I would not like it if a "lex KL law" criminalized the SN trade.
When someone puts themselves in the limelight like KL, that's not common in our cause.
There are still enough sources for SN that KL should go out of business when
the press starts to dig in on him.

The way things are going now, it primarily harms us.

 

[Valky]

It's all just a game for those pro sufferers

 

[jessisme]

This is crazy.

I ordered a kit from KL via email last week after EM was shut down. It was supposed to be delivered yesterday but never showed up. The state police just showed up at my door and said the kit was intercepted in Canada and they had asked my local police to come do a welfare check. This was scary.

What country was it shipping to?

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

This is crazy.

I ordered a kit from KL via email last week after EM was shut down. It was supposed to be delivered yesterday but never showed up. The state police just showed up at my door and said the kit was intercepted in Canada and they had asked my local police to come do a welfare check. This was scary.

This sounds very similar to the Nembutal from D N from D welfare checks and they took down D too. All this happened after the New York times article . From 2018-2022 there was Nembutal from A and from D available to order and info how to order here and in the PPH. and many sources of SN . now they took down IC and Em and KL the owner . Everything changed after the Ny times article.

 

[LigottiSchopenhauer]

It doesn't matter how hard they fight. The pro-lifers will never be able to stop us from sharing this important info and resources with each other. Even if SS itself were to be eliminated, another site would just take its place, sort of like how this site took the place of alt.suicide.holiday and similar online communities. The war on suicide info and methods is a lot like the war on drugs: fundamentally unwinable, because it's a war against a primal and eternal human urge.

 

[lionetta12]

This is just terrible, poor guy. Poor us as well, I feel for those not in the US, not able to get from CCS.

But sources in the US is still up at least? I got SN from IC but I would prefer to CTB in America so it's comforting to know that american sources are still up for next time I travel there.

 

[LastOrder]

I dont understand how this is accepted. Why are we all forced to exist when none of us asked to be here. Why is it so hard to let people deal with the way they want. Im miserable and i feel ignored by everyone in my life. Why is it selfish when i choose the best for yourself.

 

[ThisIsLife]

I dont understand how this is accepted. Why are we all forced to exist when none of us asked to be here.

Capitalism won't thrive with dead people. Dead people don't work their asses for nothing, don't get slaved to debt and don't pay taxes.

 

[LigottiSchopenhauer]

I dont understand how this is accepted. Why are we all forced to exist when none of us asked to be here. Why is it so hard to let people deal with the way they want. Im miserable and i feel ignored by everyone in my life. Why is it selfish when i choose the best for yourself.

Maybe I'm being overly optimistic, but I think there's a chance it won't always be accepted. I suspect that 50-100 years from now, people will look back at our societal practice of forcing people to stay alive against their will the same way we look back today at things like forced lobotomies and sterilizations. Already we're seeing slow but steady progress in places like Canada and much of Europe towards increased access of medically-assisted suicide. It's not nearly enough, but it's a step in the right direction.

 

[TAW122]

Maybe I'm being overly optimistic, but I think there's a chance it won't always be accepted. I suspect that 50-100 years from now, people will look back at our societal practice of forcing people to stay alive against their will the same way we look back today at things like forced lobotomies and sterilizations. Already we're seeing slow but steady progress in places like Canada and much of Europe towards increased access of medically-assisted suicide. It's not nearly enough, but it's a step in the right direction.

If steady progress continues then that is good news (in the long term), and if half a century from now, most of us would have already been dead or near the end of one's life expectancy, so besides the very elderly and infirm, most of us suffering in present day would not be able to benefit from it. Sure, the future future generations may be able to benefit from it (unless by some unprecedented turn in humanity's history, the pendulum swings unfavorably again).

 

[Unending]

Maybe I'm being overly optimistic, but I think there's a chance it won't always be accepted. I suspect that 50-100 years from now, people will look back at our societal practice of forcing people to stay alive against their will the same way we look back today at things like forced lobotomies and sterilizations. Already we're seeing slow but steady progress in places like Canada and much of Europe towards increased access of medically-assisted suicide. It's not nearly enough, but it's a step in the right direction.

I really hope you're right. Sometimes I worry that society will never be self aware enough to realize how harmful forcing people to live is. At the same time though, the arguments and reasoning for why we should have the right to die are so simple and logical that they couldn't possibly be overlooked forever.

I don't just feel bad for me or for others here, I also feel bad for all those born in the future who end up needing that right at some point in life but aren't able to get it. I really hope that societies around the world are able to take a look at themselves sooner than later and understand that just because they can't conceptualize the suffering or mindset of others doesn't mean that they need to label suicidal people as unsound of mind or not to be trusted with themselves.

I don't know one person who thinks that the government or our parents should own our bodies and lives, yet most people think that things like incarceration for suicidal people is okay and a better alternative than that individual making an informed, well thought out decision. It surely does come off as our lives being owned by others.