Resource Just drank SN + DMSO

[JustAboutDone]

The post @Chinaski made earlier about a vast amount of passive aggressive use of the like button today as various users took a bashing is indicative to me that a lot people who want to call other people out for bullying behaviour should consider their own passive aggressive bullying techniques.

 

[OfficerK]

See again, it's all about how was it typed like that blah blah. I don't know maybe the person's vision dimmed half way through? Who knows? Exactly what should someone do not to look suspicious. Write perfectly till they stop writing? Write messed up from beginning? Look man like I said before, is there a chance, they are trolls? There is. Is there a chance they are not trolls? Yes there is. In such a situation, acting out on which belief is going to cause less damage? Somebody else was saying that xeres is a troll and this method is bad. If anything, all these posts on dsmo and sn only process that this method maybe dangerous. They are in no way, promoting or making this method look good. So I don't know what is to be gained by calling the op and others liars except them being sad if they are regular users. Anyway I just felt I should share my thinking. I don't have any control over what you people do here. Everyone is free to do what they think is constructive I guess. Sorry if I offended you or any of the other angry people. Peace x

I just explained what there is to gain from calling out people who act suspiciously. Reread my post. Not calling out someone who's acting very strange would cause a higher total amount of harm and would affect more people than I potentially am if it turns out that I'm wrong.

Their writing pattern is illogical enough to raise suspicion. I've clearly explained why I think so.

 

[Rex2019]

The post @Chinaski made earlier about a vast amount of passive aggressive use of the like button today as various users took a bashing is indicative to me that a lot people who want to call other people out for bullying behaviour should consider their own passive aggressive bullying techniques.

If this is directed at me, can you just type what you are trying to say simply and directly?...I don't understand what you are trying to say, so I'm not sure how to respond? :/ Are you saying I liked /didn't like someone? :/

 

[JustAboutDone]

If this is directed at me, can you just type what you are trying to say simply and directly?...I don't understand what you are trying to say, so I'm not sure how to respond? :/ Are you saying I liked /didn't like someone? :/

No, not directed at you? I don't think you had appeared in the thread at that stage, it's a general observation of the way some people on this forum are often quick to call bullying at someone else - but are quick to act themselves in insidious ways.

I suppose that's human nature? I just think people could just be upfront, it's easier.

 

[Rex2019]

I just explained what there is to gain from calling out people who act suspiciously. Reread my post. Not calling out someone who's acting very strange would cause a higher total amount of harm and would affect more people than I potentially am if it turns out that I'm wrong.

Their writing pattern is illogical enough to raise suspicion. I've clearly explained why I think so.

I did read what you wrote. You said, it causes harm since it encourages people to try out methods that are untested and so they should be called out. What I was saying in my previous post was that if anything, these failed attempts discourage people from trying the said method since in all the attempts it seems to end up in disaster.

 

[Rex2019]

No, not directed at you? I don't think you had appeared in the thread at that stage

Oh ok.

 

[Pulpit2018]

Rex,you have a point.
I have made similar remarks in the past.
What i do not want,is users taking the role of justice server and appointing themselves medals.
You were not appointed as forum police,so dont act like it!
A lot of new users might be intimated by this super scrutiny.
I am a skeptic myself and i dont believe someone because he took a few picture and said he will take a drug.
But accusing people of trolls and misinformation is dangerous too.

l personally think the users are far more effective at pointing out suspicious behaviour to other users than staff are with dealing with it, tbh.

This is hillarious.Staff have access to IP's and more info than the user.I am not saying that users should stay with their hands in their pockets watching,but should report odd stuff.

 

[Rex2019]

Rex,you have a point.
I have made similar remarks in the past.
What i do not want,is users taking the role of justice server and appointing themselves medals.
You were not appointed as forum police,so dont act like it!
A lot of new users might be intimated by this super scrutiny.
I am a skeptic myself and i dont believe someone because he took a few picture and said he will take a drug.
But accusing people of trolls and misinformation is dangerous too.



This is hillarious.Staff have access to IP's and more info than the user.I am not saying that users should stay with their hands in their pockets watching,but should report odd stuff.

I agree. I don't believe everything either. But I fear more harm will be done by vigilantes than good when they start calling people liars. Especially in posts like these where the results of the OPs own attempt is not encouraging in any way as it ended in disaster.

 

[Pulpit2018]

Not calling out someone who's acting very strange would cause a higher total amount of harm and would affect more people than I potentially am if it turns out that I'm wrong.

Your advocating witchhunting.You have no way to know what somebody posts will harm other users.
Are there foolish people in the forum that will follow somebody's experiments?
Yes.
Are there vulnerable people that do not research properly?
Yes.
But i am not sure this justifies witchhunting.
Plus,how do you define acting strange?

If a new guy comes in claiming he has a new source for N,its logical he will be questioned thoroughly.
If somebody posts a few weird keyboard symbols ,is that reason for accusations of trolling?
I dont know.

 

[OfficerK]

I did read what you wrote. You said, it causes harm since it encourages people to try out methods that are untested and so they should be called out. What I was saying in my previous post was that if anything, these failed attempts discourage people from trying the said method since in all the attempts it seems to end up in disaster.

That's a fair point. But he didn't return to say that he was ok until after I had posted. At that time he was unresponsive and giving off the impression that he had passed.

 

[Rex2019]

That's a fair point. But he didn't return to say that he was ok until after I had posted. At that time he was unresponsive and giving off the impression that he had passed.

If anything, he seemed to be in pain and the method did not seem encouraging even at that point. But I don't know man, it's one thing saying "hey this is suspicious" but if you see the thread..the kind of things people were saying even about another user..I don't know..I won't want to be in their shoes if I tried to ctb and had to come back to those sort of messages from people.

 

[OfficerK]

If somebody posts a few weird keyboard symbols ,is that reason for accusations of trolling?
I dont know.

Yes, and I've explained why I think so.

This is also not an isolated incident but a part of a sudden influx of new users who are convinced that DMSO + SN is a great idea. I can't recall ever seeing the same thing happen with SN alone.

 

[jackass]

What kind of keyboard configuration would make you accidentally type brackets and equals signs?

This is a standard qwerty keyboard, you can easily type brackets and equal signs by mistake without pressing shift/alt etc. If this is your only
"proof" that OP is trolling, I fear you are barking up the wrong tree.

 

[Chinaski]

This is hillarious.Staff have access to IP's and more info than the user.I am not saying that users should stay with their hands in their pockets watching,but should report odd stuff.

To reiterate, it was users, not staff, who have exposed N scams and scam adjacent behaviour, it might be argued that staff have been slow off the mark on many occasions; this has been outlined elsewhere, I've made myself clear on it, and would probably derail the thread further...

Having access to lPs offers little, tbqh - it's users who spot patterns of suss behaviour over a period of time most often, and stating it publicly, rather than quietly shunting it off and pretending it never existed when a user is found to be suss (tokyojoe being referred to earlier is a case in point), is only going to be done by users.

 

[OfficerK]

This is a standard qwerty keyboard, you can easily type brackets and equal signs by mistake without pressing shift/alt etc. If this is your only
"proof" that OP is trolling, I fear you are barking up the wrong tree.

That doesn't explain the sudden inability to write mid-post within a minute of publishing a long and coherent post. And why he would decide to post the incoherent writing, and why does it deviate from other reported attempts except for that of the suspected staged attempt of Pulmonicis?

 

[Johnnythefox]

That doesn't explain the sudden inability to write mid-post within a minute of publishing a long and coherent post. And why he would decide to post the incoherent writing, and why does it deviate from other reported attempts except for that of the suspected staged attempt of Pulmonicis?

Well said @OfficerK

 

[jackass]

That doesn't explain the sudden inability to write mid-post within a minute of publishing a long and coherent post. And why he would decide to post the incoherent writing, and why does it deviate from other reported attempts except for that of the suspected staged attempt of Pulmonicis?

I feel it is not my place to play detective here and try to defend OP, it's not fair on him. Only he can explain why he was suddenly unable to type coherently. What I'd say is I would not jump to the conclusion that he is a troll purely because he made several incoherent posts sandwiched between relatively more coherent ones. You have to understand that OP was suffering from acute poisoning and fading in and out of consciousness and may not be aware of what he has typed.

All I want to say is accusing OP of being a troll based on a few incoherent posts is neither healthy nor fair, it's just sad that a lot of people here want to play detective.

 

[John434]

what would have I added, maybe start there?
Dsom is just a carrier it has no correlative evidence that contributes in SN or it's properties.
SN is till highly toxic taken in small doses and in large obviosly, as far as I know there is no published documentation that provides accurate results.
Unless you want to keep this going on, maybe you do.

DMSO will excelerate the absorption of the Sodium Nitrite, aside from, in my humble opinion, creating more nausea and promoting vomiting from the absolutely Horrific taste and the lingering after taste. DMSO helps. It all boils down to whether or not you can stomach it.
After my last test of 2.5g of SN and 12ml of DMSO I'm definitely going with the Antiemetics and water, I am pretty sure I can hold that down without issue

 

[Chinaski]

All I want to say is accusing OP of being a troll based on a few incoherent posts is neither healthy nor fair, it's just sad that a lot of people here want to play detective.

People said similar stuff in defence of lovemykids, TokyoJoe, Morning Angel, thelasttrip, hell there were even a reasonable number of people defending sanctionedsuicide, the account run by Patrick the N scammer. Every time dubious conduct is observed, somebody will leap in to say it's bullying or harrassment to challenge it. Fair enough if certain folk prefer to pretend that everything on this website is pure, but it's absolutely unfair to condemn as bullies, or mean-spirited, those who reserve a not unhealthy degree of cynicism; after all, there's a fucking good reason for it imo.

 

[John434]

I feel it is not my place to play detective here and try to defend OP, it's not fair on him. Only he can explain why he was suddenly unable to type coherently. What I'd say is I would not jump to the conclusion that he is a troll purely because he made several incoherent posts sandwiched between relatively more coherent ones. You have to understand that OP was suffering from acute poisoning and fading in and out of consciousness and may not be aware of what he has typed.

All I want to say is accusing OP of being a troll based on a few incoherent posts is neither healthy nor fair, it's just sad that a lot of people here want to play detective.

I do not buy this, after personally testing SN, and first hand experiences with its effects, even at an Very low dosage, once it kicks in, and the visual bluryness kicks in, ad the darkening of your Peripheral vision and black outs, there is no possible way to even attempt a Coherent post or typing it.

 

[OfficerK]

I feel it is not my place to play detective here and try to defend OP, it's not fair on him. Only he can explain why he was suddenly unable to type coherently. What I'd say is I would not jump to the conclusion that he is a troll purely because he made several incoherent posts sandwiched between relatively more coherent ones. You have to understand that OP was suffering from acute poisoning and fading in and out of consciousness and may not be aware of what he has typed.

All I want to say is accusing OP of being a troll based on a few incoherent posts is neither healthy nor fair, it's just sad that a lot of people here want to play detective.

I get that. If you look at Pulmonicis thread, you'll find that I expressed many of the same sentiments as you are here. My scepticism has more to do with what has happened outside of this thread.

 

[Johnnythefox]

Every time dubious conduct is observed, somebody will leap in to say it's bullying or harrassment to challenge it. Fair enough if certain folk prefer to pretend that everything on this website is pure, but it's absolutely unfair to condemn as bullies, or mean-spirited, those who reserve a not unhealthy degree of cynicism;

 

[Johnnythefox]

All I want to say is accusing OP of being a troll based on a few incoherent posts is neither healthy nor fair, it's just sad that a lot of people here want to play detective.

You have been on here since Wednesday, I'm sure if you stick around for a couple of months or more you may understand why certain members are very cynical and inquisitive of certain users posts.

 

[Johnnythefox]

there is no possible way to even attempt a Coherent post or typing it.

The three members that I am aware off who successfully CTB with SN didn't post anything at all when they decided it was their time.

@Crest33
@Eden2k
@Wantingpeace

 

[jackass]

People said similar stuff in defence of lovemykids, TokyoJoe, Morning Angel, thelasttrip, hell there were even a reasonable number of people defending sanctionedsuicide, the account run by Patrick the N scammer. Every time dubious conduct is observed, somebody will leap in to say it's bullying or harrassment to challenge it. Fair enough if certain folk prefer to pretend that everything on this website is pure, but it's absolutely unfair to condemn as bullies, or mean-spirited, those who reserve a not unhealthy degree of cynicism; after all, there's a fucking good reason for it imo.

I am not familiar with those mentioned as they were before my time. All I know is in the 1 month or so I have been visiting the site, there were a lot of accusations made towards multiple users( sorry, too lazy to look up their names) based purely on speculation. I think you are right that not everything on this site is pure and users should be skeptical. However, it's one thing to be skeptical and and totally another for certain users to act as judge and jury and condemn others without proof. I have noticed that it's always the same pattern, one of the gang of detectives point out something weird, other detectives will provide support and after a couple of pages of back and forth, the user in question is condemned as being a troll.

 

[jackass]

You have been on here since Wednesday, I'm sure if you stick around for a couple of months or more you may understand why certain members are very cynical and inquisitive of certain users posts.

I have been visiting for over 1 month and I agree that we should be skeptical and inquisitive. But those playing detectives are taking it too far just because they could as they has garnered support through the being on here for a while.

 

[Chinaski]

I am not familiar with those mentioned as they were before my time. All I know is in the 1 month or so I have been visiting the site, there were a lot of accusations made towards multiple users( sorry, too lazy to look up their names) based purely on speculation. I think you are right that not everything on this site is pure and users should be skeptical. However, it's one thing to be skeptical and and totally another for certain users to act as judge and jury and condemn others without proof. I have noticed that it's always the same pattern, one of the gang of detectives point out something weird, other detectives will provide support and after a couple of pages of back and forth, the user in question is condemned as being a troll.

I'll be honest here, l don't recall a *lot* of accusations towards *multiple* users. I think there's perhaps some overstatement there. Personally it goes the other way, there are a number of occasions when a user may be a bit off or make me slightly uneasy, l generally don't say anything unless there's something l can point to tbh.

 

[jackass]

My scepticism has more to do with what has happened outside of this thread.

I have not read the other thread but you just highlight the problem, you let your negative experience from another thread affect your judgment in a totally different situation and jump to conclusions.

 

[Chinaski]

But those playing detectives are taking it too far just because they could as they has garnered support through the being on here for a while.

One of the users being heavily criticised in this thread for introducing a dubious method has also been here a while tbf, I'm not sure it's a case of new users vs long term users as much as it's a case of the people with a bit more exposure to suss behaviour, through having seen it repeatedly, are more attuned to it when they see it.

 

[Johnnythefox]

totally different situation

It's not so different, there are many similarities.