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JustAboutDone

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That suggests the problem lies with tone rather than content, which unfortunately is of great benefit to bullshitters. One hundred percent of the time the phoney accounts have presented as "nice", faking the empathy, working the room, *hugs* when necessary, and as soon as their patently ridiculous proposition is challenged and the facade disintegrates they cry bullying, harrassment, they genuinely feed off the notion that this place is a "safe space" for the emotionally damaged and will play this role well. It's happened more times than l care to remember; there's even one example of this behaviour in this thread.

One user faked a ctb twice, under two separate accounts, then returned in a new guise and professed to be homeless and living on the streets. The narrative was highly dubious. When questioned, this user kicked off about the bullying, the lack of empathy, how the fact that his/her story was even held to any scrutiny at all was unbecoming of this safe space where we should all be unremittingly supportive, blah blah. Naturally this play-acting garnered a great deal of sympathy from those same people who had grieved for one, or even both, of this manipulative trash user's previous accounts. The person doing the bullshit is always going to be "nice", the people who aren't taken in by it are always going to be seen as abrasive as a result, arguing for a standard "tone" of facile, insincere lovebombing would be paying great attention to the wrong detail.

I'd also add to this that these people often aren't working alone. There may be two, three four or more - either people or alt accounts either backing up or contradicting a story. So you think you are seeing some terrible bullying then a "hero" character steps in as a peacemaker - that may just be one of the Alts. Or someone else part of the same set of scammers. And those backing up the "victim" - look closely at those too.

And while a group is engaged in a tussle on one area of the forum, with all mod attention diverted there, a scam can easily be developing somewhere else.
 
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Minudah

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Dec 3, 2018
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If you drank sn how did your method fail?
I didn't, I only put it on my skin. I 4 or 5 (idr) tablespoons of SN in a glass with 110ml DMSO, which first took absolutely forever to mix. Then I tried to put it on my skin. It's doable but it's a serious pain in the ass, it's exactly like if you poured half a cup/100ml of water and tried to rub it on yourself without getting it everywhere. It took some time to figure out how to do it. I washed my hands and had sterile gloves over each hand (not ideal since glove material could've gotten in me, but my hands would've been worse and it's the best I could've done), poured a little at a time into my hand and tried to rub it in and keep it from dripping. I cycled through areas and reapplied when I could do it without much dripping. Obviously this took a while, and it's warm and has been very rainy where I am, so bugs have been very bad. I had only applied just under half of it after about 20-30 minutes (the mix goes bad after 30 minutes) when a bug flew into it. I reapplied it a few more times anyway, but that bug was dead immediately and. DMSO is a solvent, parts of that bug could dissolve in there and possibly mess it up. If it had been water instead of DMSO it would've been fine to just remove the bug, but drinking bug while you drink highly-nauseating poison on an empty stomach without antiemetics is probably a really good way to throw up. Also almost half an hour had passed so the mix was basically bad anyway, mixing SN with DMSO then putting it on your skin just takes way too long.

I had another bottle of DMSO with something like 300ml in it so I just dumped the mix and made a new one. It was with this "low odor" DMSO that I was already suspicious of for a lot of reasons, but I was also suspicious of the first batch of DMSO because I couldn't get it to crystallize in cold temperatures, so I figured it would be fine. I don't know if I damaged it from having it next to the heater for too long or something, I did have it closer to the heater than the small bottle first batch of DMSO. I also opened that bottle a few days before my ctb attempt to test taste it. The cap under the seal was wet when it arrived, and the DMSO smelled through the bottle, unlike the DMSO that didn't even claim to have a low odor.
I threw the SN in it and it mostly dissolved right away, but it was bright yellow like watered down lemon juice (as opposed to the first mix which looked more like watered down milk), got a really weird new smell like bitter-smelling watermelons when I threw the SN in (it originally smelled like onions, nothing whatsoever like watermelons), and a lot of the SN was in little pulp-like bits. I didn't know what the heck happened, the mixes were freakishly different. I asked here about it someone mentioned that it could've turned into sodium nitrate, which would be a bad idea, and everyone else was saying to go to the hospital. I ended up deciding to throw the mix over myself because I didn't want to give up on the attempt, but it was also obvious that drinking it would've been bad news. I know some might criticize my decisions, I'm not justifying them and I've said before that I completely lack any decision-making skills. It didn't help that people on here were telling me to go to the ER. I don't trust myself and take others' advice over what I think makes sense.

Am I forgetting something or have I gone on too much? I don't anything

That doesn't explain the sudden inability to write mid-post within a minute of publishing a long and coherent post.
SN poisoning didn't make me do that, but feels like a personal attack lol. I'm living proof that can happen, but I don't know if about because of SN. I only skin poison SN the to. But and the symptoms did fluctuate a lot which was weird from other types of poisonings I've had. SN poisoning felt a lot like ozone poisoning to me, except the bad of the symptoms were consistent from ozone but fluctuated from SN. But SN symptoms didn't rapidly fluctuate from moment to moment or even minute to minute
 
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Johnnythefox

Johnnythefox

Que sera sera
Nov 11, 2018
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Im just wondering if you can still be saved after 5 hrs
I honestly don't know the answer to that, considering that her skin discoloured even though she had vomited demonstrated the toxicity of SN.
 
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Kingkelly

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Dec 3, 2018
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I opened the sn the other day for a very short time I'd like to try it again today will it not work
 
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iHeartRockArt

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I'd also add to this that these people often aren't working alone. There may be two, three four or more - either people or alt accounts either backing up or contradicting a story. So you think you are seeing some terrible bullying then a "hero" character steps in as a peacemaker - that may just be one of the Alts. Or someone else part of the same set of scammers. And those backing up the "victim" - look closely at those too.

And while a group is engaged in a tussle on one area of the forum, with all mod attention diverted there, a scam can easily be developing somewhere else.
You have it all figured out! It's crazy the extents these users will go to to obtain attention. But everything you said, totally on point!
 
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Johnnythefox

Johnnythefox

Que sera sera
Nov 11, 2018
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I opened the sn the other day for a very short time I'd like to try it again today will it not work
It should be fine, I understand that anything more than twenty four hours exposure to air renders it useless.
 
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JustAboutDone

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Jan 1, 2019
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You have it all figured out! It's crazy the extents these users will go to to obtain attention. But everything you said, totally on point!

It's rather sad isn't it - people have too much time on their hands or else they are desperate for cash!

And it wasn't me to figure it out but decent kind people - who often get maligned for speaking honestly - who cared enough to point me away from scammers and liars.

There is a core group of genuine REAL lovely people in this forum. Some post a lot, some rarely but they are special
 

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