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Sinkinshyp

Sinkinshyp

Paragon
Sep 7, 2020
947

thank you for sharing that. What an excellent article in a few ways.
" "Don't judge people who are asking [for] it and if, like in the UK, it's not even possible to ask [for] it, you can ask yourself the question - are we actually helping people here or just letting people suffer?"
that right there- my mom and bro double teamed me the other day. I told them- isn't is selfish you want me to exist like I am in my bedroom for YOUR happiness while I am so dead.. in my case they are just letting me suffer. I'm glad she was able to get it approved. I wish in the future this option will become available to a lot more people.
 
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Misfit72

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Aug 25, 2020
157
Here's another article on Amy from three years ago - she goes on living because she has the option not to

"It felt like 10,000 kilos was just (lifted)," De Schutter said. She says if she hadn't been in a country where euthanasia was legal, she would have resorted to suicide by now.

That's the crux of the argument.
 
Mm80

Mm80

Enlightened
May 15, 2019
1,604
It will take the uk 20 yrs imo to allow assisted dying for mental health.
I think terminal illness help will be allowed though within the next 5 years or so.
 
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Infinite Conscious

Infinite Conscious

Experienced
Aug 18, 2020
282
I watched this video a couple of years ago about a girl in Belgium who was granted the right to die with assisted suicide (practically euthanasia).
She went through hell to get that right, had to obtain OK's from multiple psychiatrists... only to back out the last moment, on the day she was supposed to get the lethal injection.

So Belgium has that option as legal... the Netherlands as well (imo the best country in the world to be born in).
Attached are the particular video... and an article about such legislation in various countries across Europe.

I think we are still centuries away from the rest of the world and an average person accepting the idea.



 
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Mm80

Mm80

Enlightened
May 15, 2019
1,604
I watched this video a couple of years ago about a girl in Belgium who was granted the right to die with assisted dying (practically euthanasia).
She went through hell to get that right, had to obtain OK's from multiple psychiatrists... only to back out the last moment, on the day she was supposed to get the lethal injection.

So Belgium has that option as legal... the Netherlands as well (imo the best country in the world to be born in).
Attached are the particular video... and an article about such legislation in various countries across Europe.

I think we are still centuries away from the rest of the world and an average person accepting the idea.




Yeah i watched this two. She goes through with it in aug 2018
 
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nitroautnz

nitroautnz

Specialist
Sep 11, 2020
361
Wow, that a great thing for her, but the step for accessing it are not easy to achieve. I relate so much from what she's leaving, wish i was leaving in her country.
 
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Remember_Me

Remember_Me

Member
Sep 11, 2020
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It will take the uk 20 yrs imo to allow assisted dying for mental health.
I think terminal illness help will be allowed though within the next 5 years or so.
I think we're 20 years away from anyone being allowed to choose. Our Government talk about the value of life, yet make it as miserable for people as they can.
I meet the criteria if only I lived in Belgium.
 
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ab_

"I'd feel trapped if I couldn't CTB at any time."
Feb 15, 2019
272
friendly bump so it can recieve more attention
 
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RedFoxSwims

Member
Oct 8, 2020
43
This is great news good for her! I only hope that comes to my country. They must have good psychiatrists too mine thinks I'll get better even though I've been seeing him for three years. There is no getting better.
 
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262653

Cluesome
Apr 5, 2018
1,733
I meet the criteria if only I lived in Belgium.
Isn't that for doctors to decide? I mean, you might have your own criteria, but it is their assessment that gives you the "right to die".

And this makes me wondering. If they "can't scan see it on the scan", then what becomes very important in recieving the right to die is being able to express yourself, be a good and convincing talker, storyteller.

I remember, in one of the talks about love, Alan Watts compared two people, one is expressing love with poems while another, and then he proceeds to grunt (much to the amusement of audience), imitating the sounds made in the process of sexual intercourse. A well-written poem can make a much bigger impression than "I want to fuck you." I think that, in the same vein, people who are able to eloquently describe their desire not to live make a better impression than those who say something like: "I don't want to live. I feel much more pain and suffering in my life than pleasure and contentment. It's been like that all my life."

Still beats having no official right at all.
 
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CTB-London

Student
Feb 26, 2019
160
I think Britain should pass such legislation but won't any time soon.

My own way over the past 2 years has been to keep medication in stock that would end it for me if things get too much. Having it helps me to go on.
 
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jing

Slowly discovering my place here in this world.
Oct 9, 2020
35
I remember watching Futurama and in the first ever episode there was this suicide box where you can go in to CTB. That really spoke to me and I hope it's more accessible just like that in the future. People should be able to decide when to return an unwanted gift.
 
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Meditation guide

Always was, is, and always shall be.
Jun 22, 2020
6,089
I know if I had the "right to die" and it was physician assisted with the right drugs I would probably get a new lease on life.

I would then be able to carry on and do the best things for myself to get what little I can out of the time I have left. I would know it would always be available to me if I wanted it and I could turn all my thoughts to living the best way I could. I could stop worrying about all this.
 
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Worthless_nobody

Enlightened
Feb 14, 2019
1,384
Wow her words I say exactly this too:
"I don't want to die, but I don't want to live like this," she says. "It's unbearable at this moment and it's been unbearable for a long period of time."

"after doctors agreed her mental suffering is unbearable"...
It's great she gets this peace of mind but it's so messed up most others are not. What makes one person's suffering more unbearable than another? If the government or billionaires are really worried that there will be hordes of people signing up for this so they will loose wage slaves and revenue they are mistaken. Most people want to live and wouldn't do this I think. But the ones who do want it...let us go already! I know I would feel SO much better and probably try to live if I could get this!
 
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Meditation guide

Always was, is, and always shall be.
Jun 22, 2020
6,089
et us go already! I know I would feel SO much better and probably try to live if I could get this!
It's so incredibly cruel to force people to stay alive no matter how bad their suffering gets. You and I are not bedridden and helpless but there are thousands of elderly people who never leave their beds and need constant help with feeding, which they have the mush spooned into their toothless mouths every single day, wear diapers that get changed by non caring brutes and not nearly often enough, cannot control if they need another blanket or if they are too cold or hot, are in pain without any relief, never see anyone but the ones who spoon in the food, or change the diapers and live on their way with their bedsores festering for many years.

Their toenails grow into their feet because they never get cut. Their teeth rot and hurt and never get pulled. Their hair never gets washed or combed. I've seen this. I've seen the look of pleading and suffering in their old eyes.
 
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Worthless_nobody

Enlightened
Feb 14, 2019
1,384
It's so incredibly cruel to force people to stay alive no matter how bad their suffering gets. You and I are not bedridden and helpless but there are thousands of elderly people who never leave their beds and need constant help with feeding, which they have the mush spooned into their toothless mouths every single day, wear diapers that get changed by non caring brutes and not nearly often enough, cannot control if they need another blanket or if they are too cold or hot, are in pain without any relief, never see anyone but the ones who spoon in the food, or change the diapers and live on their way with their bedsores festering for many years.

Their toenails grow into their feet because they never get cut. Their teeth rot and hurt and never get pulled. Their hair never gets washed or combed. I've seen this. I've seen the look of pleading and suffering in their old eyes.
My grandma took me and me cousin into nursing home at a young age to visit our great grandmother. I was horrified how the people there were treated! How they looked, heard them begging for help, watching the staff dismiss them. It really made me think as a child why is society ok with this!? It's cruel and inhumane! Pets are given a humane death but there my great grandma sat with alzheimer's and completely sick suffering and no one thought....let's give her peace already...let's give all of them peace. It's so messed up and makes me sick thinking about it. I'm terrified about the rest of my family because i watched many others through the years suffer too. So at a young age I vowed I would never get old.
 

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