“It’s going to get better. See! It did for me!”

[Funeralprincess]

The MOST annoying type of mentally ill people are the ones who fucking recovered. They simply hit a stroke of luck where they found the amazing guy, got the good job, had family finally reach out… and then they try to shove that bullshit on to the rest of us. It's beyond insulting to do that to say the least, considering many of us had our second chance and lost it. They think them getting their first shot of starting over is the same as those of us who already had that and that boat has long sailed… congrats on having an opportunity of having a perfect fucking life, we are all happy for you, but shut up already. Many of us already had chances and have either lost all of our beauty (which plays a HUGE role in the quality partner you get), lost our good jobs (hard to get another once you lose the first) or have some sort of physical health issues now that hold us back. People who recover have very big survivorship bias and it's revolting. Why are you even still on forums if you're so "recovered" and happy anyway? What do you get out of rubbing it in our faces? I'm sick of recovered people trying to jam false hope down all of our throats. Look In The fucking mirror and realize you're privileged and you aren't one of us anymore, therefore you can totally go f*** yourself and stop trying to coerce many of us to continue to suffer because you think everyone will have a chance like you did

 

[Someone123]

The MOST annoying type of mentally ill people are the ones who fucking recovered. They simply hit a stroke of luck where they found the amazing guy, got the good job, had family finally reach out… and then they try to shove that billshit on to the rest of us. It's beyond insulting to do that to say the least, considering many of us had our second chance and lost it. They think them getting their first shot of starting over is the same as those of us who already had that and that boat has long sailed… congrats on having an opportunity of having a perfect fucking life, we are all happy for you, but shut up already. Many of us already had chances and have either lost all of our beauty (which plays a HUGE role in the quality partner you get), lost our good jobs (hard to get another once you lose the first) or have some sort of physical health issues now that hold us back. People who recover have very big survivorship bias and it's revolting. Why are you even still on forums if you're so "recovered" and happy anyway? What do you get out of rubbing it in our faces?

They probably just aren't thinking it through, they didn't expect to recover and then they did, so then they thhink- mayb e I can help other syto experience this- it's a simple -mindeed, knee-jerk reaction to their unexpected improvement- I try to cut themn a little slack, especially jsut after this first happens- over time hopefully they will realize taht for many people this stroke of good luck won't happen, and they deserve to find peace.

 

[Funeralprincess]

They probably just aren't thinking it through, they didn't expect to recover and then they did, so then they thhink- mayb e I can help other syto experience this- it's a simple -mindeed, knee-jerk reaction to their unexpected improvement- I try to cut themn a little slack, especially jsut after this first happens- over time hopefully they will realize taht for many people this stroke of good luck won't happen, and they deserve to find peace.

I disagree. I've seen many continue to push it on to people after they've kindly been told to please stop. That then resorts to them throwing some sort of judgement. I won't cut someone slack who suddenly feels they're better than the people they used to be exactly like

 

[Fktw0rld]

I agree. I've recovered a handful of times but always remembered where I came from. It wasn't my business pulling others out. I couldn't do it for myself, like you said, I had a stroke of luck. But I was more than willing to climb down the hole with them and hang out so they didn't have to be alone at the bottom all the time. I knew I'd end up back anyway. And tbh, I'm more comfortable here.

 

[Someone123]

I disagree. I've seen many continue to push it on to people after they've kindly been told to please stop. That then resorts to them throwing some sort of judgement. I won't cut someone slack who suddenly feels they're better than the people they used to be exactly like

It just depends on their approach- the experiences you describe are not cool, they need to see the other side of it.

 

[Hurt]

Good for them. I can't recover.

 

[Funeralprincess]

I agree. I've recovered a handful of times but always remembered where I came from. It wasn't my business pulling others out. I couldn't do it for myself, like you said, I had a stroke of luck. But I was more than willing to climb down the hole with them and hang out so they didn't have to be alone at the bottom all the time. I knew I'd end up back anyway. And tbh, I'm more comfortable here.

Same. When I recovered it was all luck but not once did I take that and start shoving it on to sick people. I see way too many do this and they genuinely think their life becoming some sort of fairytale is because of hard work

It just depends on their approach- the experiences you describe are not cool, they need to see the other side of it.

Recovered people in my view, need to leave sick people alone.

 

[Fktw0rld]

Same. When I recovered it was all luck but not once did I take that and start shoving it on to sick people. I see way too many do this and they genuinely think their life becoming some sort of fairytale is because of hard work


Recovered people in my view, need to leave sick people alone.

Isn't it crazy though that no matter how lucky we get, or how good were doing, we always kinda know, we don't belong there? It's like winning the lottery but knowing we're going to get robbed of all our winnings within a short period of time. Like, it's GUARANTEED! And the thought just sits in the corner of our minds day in and day out. Like a little demon following us around, poking us on the shoulder every once in a while saying, "ha! I see you smiling and making plans. Don't get too happy. It's ending soon."

 

[Lonerzepam]

Yes exactly. I got the chance to turn my life around 1 year ago but completely ruined it cuz of addiction. Some people hate me for that and I get it I hate myself for it too but they don't bother always bringing it up again which makes me feel worse and worse everytime. Lost my job, girl, in depth just everything due to psychiatry, mental illness and drugs. But that wouldn't bother me so much the thing is my life is ruined for life cuz I got complete neurological brain damage and I'm on disability now just cuz I'm an addict and bipolar not to mention other illnesses. Now I can live with the regret that I could have a normal life 1 year back but this isn't in any way possible now and now I can ctb cuz of it and I hate myself so much for it I don't wanna die really but I can't live with these circumstances anymore. Also the worst is when u already know ur life is over and want to end it but everyone forces u to "get better". It's the worst part cuz u now when u can't. But everyone just has their own interest in mind. Thanks for supporting me now when it's already way too late. AS is legal in my country and I asked about it but my doctor won't even think about it and my family neither which I understand but I can't exist for others just so they feel better. Also I have to make all my ctb plans alone and keep it a secreat and have to do SN alone when N would be available in my country for people like me but they won't let me get it for whatever reason. So AS is now legal but you can't get it. Makes sense. I also fit all requirements. I'm 21 u just have to be 18 minimum. But they say I'm so young and my life is just beginning at this point. No fuckheads my life is over at this point please just accept it. Just let me die in peace with my loved ones not keeping it a secret rather than doing some fucked up SN method where everything can just go wrong even when u do it exactly how it is described and I have to break the law in order to even get hold of the resources needed for it. Not that I ever bothered breakin tha law but anyways it just adds another barrier when u are already so desperade. I gonna have to write some fucking suicide letter which I suck at instead of being able to tell them and let em know in person. Fuck all this shit man. Sry I realized that had nothing to do with the initial thread anymore I apologize. Just needed to let some things out I guess I mean I can't tell no one at this point how I really feel everyday than you guys. I'm really glad to be in this community and not on fucking reddit r/SuicideWatch anymore haha. *Sigh

 

[hamvil]

The MOST annoying type of mentally ill people are the ones who fucking recovered. They simply hit a stroke of luck where they found the amazing guy, got the good job, had family finally reach out… and then they try to shove that bullshit on to the rest of us. It's beyond insulting to do that to say the least, considering many of us had our second chance and lost it. They think them getting their first shot of starting over is the same as those of us who already had that and that boat has long sailed… congrats on having an opportunity of having a perfect fucking life, we are all happy for you, but shut up already. Many of us already had chances and have either lost all of our beauty (which plays a HUGE role in the quality partner you get), lost our good jobs (hard to get another once you lose the first) or have some sort of physical health issues now that hold us back. People who recover have very big survivorship bias and it's revolting. Why are you even still on forums if you're so "recovered" and happy anyway? What do you get out of rubbing it in our faces? I'm sick of recovered people trying to jam false hope down all of our throats. Look In The fucking mirror and realize you're privileged and you aren't one of us anymore, therefore you can totally go f*** yourself and stop trying to coerce many of us to continue to suffer because you think everyone will have a chance like you did

This really annoys me as well. I had my opportunity i lost it, then some other one came around and I pushed them away because I was feeling to bad to appreciate them. Now I've go a shitty job and an abusive boss. Hope I find the courage soon. If anything I want to be encouraged to do CTB,

 

[Funeralprincess]

Yes exactly. I got the chance to turn my life around 1 year ago but completely ruined it cuz of addiction. Some people hate me for that and I get it I hate myself for it too but they don't bother always bringing it up again which makes me feel worse and worse everytime. Lost my job, girl, in depth just everything due to psychiatry, mental illness and drugs. But that wouldn't bother me so much the thing is my life is ruined for life cuz I got complete neurological brain damage and I'm on disability now just cuz I'm an addict and bipolar not to mention other illnesses. Now I can live with the regret that I could have a normal life 1 year back but this isn't in any way possible now and now I can ctb cuz of it and I hate myself so much for it I don't wanna die really but I can't live with these circumstances anymore. Also the worst is when u already know ur life is over and want to end it but everyone forces u to "get better". It's the worst part cuz u now when u can't. But everyone just has their own interest in mind. Thanks for supporting me now when it's already way too late. AS is legal in my country and I asked about it but my doctor won't even think about it and my family neither which I understand but I can't exist for others just so they feel better. Also I have to make all my ctb plans alone and keep it a secreat and have to do SN alone when N would be available in my country for people like me but they won't let me get it for whatever reason. So AS is now legal but you can't get it. Makes sense. I also fit all requirements. I'm 21 u just have to be 18 minimum. But they say I'm so young and my life is just beginning at this point. No fuckheads my life is over at this point please just accept it. Just let me die in peace with my loved ones not keeping it a secret rather than doing some fucked up SN method where everything can just go wrong even when u do it exactly how it is described and I have to break the law in order to even get hold of the resources needed for it. Not that I ever bothered breakin tha law but anyways it just adds another barrier when u are already so desperade. I gonna have to write some fucking suicide letter which I suck at instead of being able to tell them and let em know in person. Fuck all this shit man. Sry I realized that had nothing to do with the initial thread anymore I apologize. Just needed to let some things out I guess I mean I can't tell no one at this point how I really feel everyday than you guys. I'm really glad to be in this community and not on fucking reddit r/SuicideWatch anymore haha. *Sigh

I lost the man of my dreams (handsome, provider type, good corporate job, sweetheart) because o developed bipolar. My bipolar then removed all of my friends too. Before that I was just depressed and all of those good humans were in my life and all was well and then, I became sick with that dumb fucking disease and for years my life has continued to get worse. I'm sorry bipolar took it all from you too… ive wanted to die ever since

Isn't it crazy though that no matter how lucky we get, or how good were doing, we always kinda know, we don't belong there? It's like winning the lottery but knowing we're going to get robbed of all our winnings within a short period of time. Like, it's GUARANTEED! And the thought just sits in the corner of our minds day in and day out. Like a little demon following us around, poking us on the shoulder every once in a while saying, "ha! I see you smiling and making plans. Don't get too happy. It's ending soon."

That's exactly what happened to me

 

[Lonerzepam]

I lost the man of my dreams (handsome, provider type, good corporate job, sweetheart) because o developed bipolar. My bipolar then removed all of my friends too. Before that I was just depressed and all of those good humans were in my life and all was well and then, I became sick with that dumb fucking disease and for years my life has continued to get worse. I'm sorry bipolar took it all from you too… ive wanted to die ever since


That's exactly what happened to me

Yeah it's so hard to live with this. It destroys so many peoples life. And in my experience psychiatry and therapy almost always make it worse. They destroyed my life with their meds anyways and many others a saw here too. In fact I will have to ctb cuz of them. Good job mental health system. I mean I blame myself for it to some degree too but cmon. I really can relate to what you mean. Have u ever been on lamotrigine. It's a mood stabilizer. It really helps my bipolar ass. Maybe check it out if u haven't already only psych med that actually hasn't destroyed my life lol

 

[Life_and_Death]

ive recently dealt with this "i was depressed because my mom died and i got better" no offense dude (or to anyone else that lost a family member they care about) but thats 100% different. everyone loses family, everyone dies. get rejected by 4 parents then get back to me.
thankfully its not this way with everyone. my nonbiobigbro dealt with things and got better (it was one of those easy fixes) and hes understanding of my pain, which is a HUGE improvement from school

 

[FuneralCry]

I think that those types of people are delusional as to the cruel reality of this existence, they certainly are annoying. I cannot stand toxic positivity personally. Things could get worse for them again and then they wouldn't be saying those things. People are already suffering enough without getting their problems invalidated.

 

[Fadeawaaaay]

I remember 30 years ago discovering anti-depressants and being helped immensely and wanting to help other people who are depressed… I try to give people the benefit of the doubt if they want to encourage others to recover but I agree… If you're in a hole you really don't want to be around super cheerful people…

 

[Funeralprincess]

Yeah it's so hard to live with this. It destroys so many peoples life. And in my experience psychiatry and therapy almost always make it worse. They destroyed my life with their meds anyways and many others a saw here too. In fact I will have to ctb cuz of them. Good job mental health system. I mean I blame myself for it to some degree too but cmon. I really can relate to what you mean. Have u ever been on lamotrigine. It's a mood stabilizer. It really helps my bipolar ass. Maybe check it out if u haven't already only psych med that actually hasn't destroyed my life lol

Yeah I've been on. Many meds including lamictal/lamotrigine. I had to stop it because I got the bad rash that people get when they're allergic to it lmao. I also metabolize meds quickly so nothing works for long. It's also not your fault in my eyes because bipolar literally is disabling. It's why it's one of the illnesses recognized on disability and social security applications. I have to kill myself to prevent myself from hurting me, or hurting others. I have no choice now. Recovery is impossible for me

 

[blazysuzan]

I understand the frustration but this comes off so bitter, idk. If people are happy, let them be happy type deal. Ive had people try shoving their bullshit positivity in my face all the time but I never denounce them, it's always just a "awesome!" and move on, despite how annoying it can be. If people wanna help, or at least think they're helping, i don't see the issue with letting them, maybe it makes their day.

 

[Mr2005]

So harsh. Goddamn.

 

[Lonerzepam]

Yeah I've been on. Many meds including lamictal/lamotrigine. I had to stop it because I got the bad rash that people get when they're allergic to it lmao. I also metabolize meds quickly so nothing works for long. It's also not your fault in my eyes because bipolar literally is disabling. It's why it's one of the illnesses recognized on disability and social security applications. I have to kill myself to prevent myself from hurting me, or hurting others. I have no choice now. Recovery is impossible for me

That sucks that u are allergic to it. Yeah I'm in the exact same spot. So fucking desperate

 

[AnonymousS]

Isn't it crazy though that no matter how lucky we get, or how good were doing, we always kinda know, we don't belong there? It's like winning the lottery but knowing we're going to get robbed of all our winnings within a short period of time. Like, it's GUARANTEED! And the thought just sits in the corner of our minds day in and day out. Like a little demon following us around, poking us on the shoulder every once in a while saying, "ha! I see you smiling and making plans. Don't get too happy. It's ending soon."

Yes, it's like looking over your shoulder knowing the darkness is coming back. If it ever went in the first place, sometimes it has for a little while for me, never for long though. Chaos always seems to win out.

 

[Life_and_Death]

I understand the frustration but this comes off so bitter, idk. If people are happy, let them be happy type deal. Ive had people try shoving their bullshit positivity in my face all the time but I never denounce them, it's always just a "awesome!" and move on, despite how annoying it can be. If people wanna help, or at least think they're helping, i don't see the issue with letting them, maybe it makes their day.

some people are super pushy about it. like annoyingly so. i repeatedly tried to nicely tell them to knock it off "its not that easy" "it doesnt work that way" "you dont know my situation" and they just dont shut up. they think they know the answers to all of gods questions when they most likely barely have their own life straight.

 

[Funeralprincess]

I understand the frustration but this comes off so bitter, idk. If people are happy, let them be happy type deal. Ive had people try shoving their bullshit positivity in my face all the time but I never denounce them, it's always just a "awesome!" and move on, despite how annoying it can be. If people wanna help, or at least think they're helping, i don't see the issue with letting them, maybe it makes their day.

Lol bitter? Haha nothing to be bitter of. You can have your happiness, but don't start trying to rub it on people who are suffering greater ways. Survivor bias is unattractive and insensitive. And no, I won't let them think theyre helping because I'm not a fake bitch, I'll tell the straight up truth. Their harassing of sick people who CANT recover is NOT helpful and we are NOT obligated to allow someone to harass us to make themselves feel better. Try again

So harsh. Goddamn.

Truth hurts. People with survivor bias are problematic towards those who are less fortunate

I remember 30 years ago discovering anti-depressants and being helped immensely and wanting to help other people who are depressed… I try to give people the benefit of the doubt if they want to encourage others to recover but I agree… If you're in a hole you really don't want to be around super cheerful people…

Exactly, especially because the recovered ones will end up either harassing you with their savior complex, or they'll judge you for still struggling. It actually will lead to a sick person feeling more like an outcast because they're around people who happened to get lucky and those people are looking down on the sick person who they deem isn't trying hard enough to thrive… not a fun feeling

 

[SunshineAndSuicide]

The MOST annoying type of mentally ill people are the ones who fucking recovered. They simply hit a stroke of luck where they found the amazing guy, got the good job, had family finally reach out… and then they try to shove that bullshit on to the rest of us. It's beyond insulting to do that to say the least, considering many of us had our second chance and lost it. They think them getting their first shot of starting over is the same as those of us who already had that and that boat has long sailed… congrats on having an opportunity of having a perfect fucking life, we are all happy for you, but shut up already. Many of us already had chances and have either lost all of our beauty (which plays a HUGE role in the quality partner you get), lost our good jobs (hard to get another once you lose the first) or have some sort of physical health issues now that hold us back. People who recover have very big survivorship bias and it's revolting. Why are you even still on forums if you're so "recovered" and happy anyway? What do you get out of rubbing it in our faces? I'm sick of recovered people trying to jam false hope down all of our throats. Look In The fucking mirror and realize you're privileged and you aren't one of us anymore, therefore you can totally go f*** yourself and stop trying to coerce many of us to continue to suffer because you think everyone will have a chance like you did

This . Couldn't have said it better!
People are so delusional, and I despise toxic positivity when in actual fact they are just privileged. I've once felt like I was on the road to recovery, but things got real bad again after that, so I always cringe when people proclaim recovery and try to shove it down others' throats because I alway wonder what they'll say when things get bad again. Double cringe

 

[Funeralprincess]

This . Couldn't have said it better!
People are so delusional, and I despise toxic positivity when in actual fact they are just privileged. I've once felt like I was on the road to recovery, but things got real bad again after that, so I always cringe when people proclaim recovery and try to shove it down others' throats because I alway wonder what they'll say when things get bad again. Double cringe

Toxic positivity is privilege lol glad you agree. I own up to my shit. When I had good chances in life, it was luck and privilege. I never once looked down upon other sick people while I thrived, but people like me are very rare. Most will turn on our community and make us feel like animals. I lost my chance, and seeing others not acknowledge their privilege and luck makes me angry. Toxic positivity is privilege and they fail to admit that's why they're doing well now is because of privilege and luck

 

[Lost Magic]

'If I can do it anyone can do it.' Those are the most irritating types of people. To be honest, even the ones who get lucky can lose it all as well. There are no guarantees for continued happiness in this crazy world. Still, we could be doing with more kindness and understanding in the world.

 

[blazysuzan]

Lol bitter? Haha nothing to be bitter of. You can have your happiness, but don't start trying to rub it on people who are suffering greater ways. Survivor bias is unattractive and insensitive. And no, I won't let them think theyre helping because I'm not a fake bitch, I'll tell the straight up truth. Their harassing of sick people who CANT recover is NOT helpful and we are NOT obligated to allow someone to harass us to make themselves feel better. Try again

Truth hurts. People with survivor bias are problematic towards those who are less fortunate


Exactly, especially because the recovered ones will end up either harassing you with their savior complex, or they'll judge you for still struggling. It actually will lead to a sick person feeling more like an outcast because they're around people who happened to get lucky and those people are looking down on the sick person who they deem isn't trying hard enough to thrive… not a fun feeling you're

Lol bitter? Haha nothing to be bitter of. You can have your happiness, but don't start trying to rub it on people who are suffering greater ways. Survivor bias is unattractive and insensitive. And no, I won't let them think theyre helping because I'm not a fake bitch, I'll tell the straight up truth. Their harassing of sick people who CANT recover is NOT helpful and we are NOT obligated to allow someone to harass us to make themselves feel better. Try again

Truth hurts. People with survivor bias are problematic towards those who are less fortunate


Exactly, especially because the recovered ones will end up either harassing you with their savior complex, or they'll judge you for still struggling. It actually will lead to a sick person feeling more like an outcast because they're around people who happened to get lucky and those people are looking down on the sick person who they deem isn't trying hard enough to thrive… not a fun feeling

yeah u reserve the right to be shitty about it i never said u didn't, i was just trynna give my perspective no need to be so aggressive/ bitter. i'm in hell, and some people can't understand my pain but will try n help regardless, and some people are gonna be insensitive about it. from my pov i'd rather make someone else's day even if it's fake cause why not (if u can't help me why not help u) spread kindness n what not. we see things diff and that's fine, so "try again" or whatever u meant by that.