It's a bit jarring that every single person on this website has a life.

[Un-]

Stupid title. Lemme explain.

I don't want this to seem like it's disrespectful. @SpentStardust recently.. Attempted. I'm not sure if he succeeded, but he had a YouTube channel. Not a lot of people watched him, but he lived outside of this forum.

I talk to a few people here, and it's.. Crazy learning about their lives. I'm talking about people that were once millionaires, people that were part of activist groups, people that had success in some fashion - people with genuine lives. That lived. Not always good lives, but lives nonetheless.

I don't know why this is only dawning on me now. But it makes every goodbye post all the more.. flabbergast-ly. All we see is a profile picture, and a username. But the scope of it is that THAT is a human being. With a face. And a smile. And a neck and legs. And (hopefully) clothes. With a brain. A person with a life that at least matters to them.

Similar to the Sonder effect.

This sounds surprisingly pro-life. Take it how you want.

Edit: My point wasn't whether we have successful lives or not. The idea is that you're a human being. A fully-fledged one. I could've made that part clear. My bad.

 

[Girl-shaped Wound]

ll we see is a profile picture, and a username. But the scope of it is that THAT is a human being. With a face. And a smile. And a neck and legs. And (hopefully) clothes. With a brain. A person with a life that at least matters to them.

That is exactly why I avoid reading/participating in goodbye threads. Too painful.

 

[ge0rge]

that is exactly why I feel the matter of suicide and death should be approached with a lot more respect and sensitivity than just reducing things to pro-life or pro-choice. it's a matter of profound solemnity, and a lot has to be contemplated and considered beforehand

 

[ever so lonely]

i dont mate, i merely exist not so much live, believe it or not, no family to speak of anymore, mine or the family that ever truly cared for me and made effort are (deceased) of those alive we are estranged, have been for years, the likelihood is we will never speak again, even no phone contact anymore, total cut off, been 10 years or more now, no friends, during covid they dried up, and i distanced myself, nobody who gives a fuck about me in irl terms, so i have embraced it bro, what else can ya do, the only things i have is my dog if you consider that a life lol, ss, and other online mediums such as reddit etc, my pooch he loves me for me and i loves him very much, he keeps me on my toes for sure, and his a ikkle adorable, i live for his sake for time being now, safe in the knowledge the suicide method is there should i need it, and can act upon it, my suicide method is of course nicely and safely tucked away, the only other thing i live for is my video games and that is literal it, it gets lonely, but dude honestly you get better at distracting yourself to get your mind off of it, i think it is easy to assume in this day and age that everybody around you is living it up, when what really is going on is there probably just as lost as you and i, and probably just as lonely, it is easy to get into that trap esp with social media, and people portraying there lives as they wish to be seen, as opposed to how they truly are, they say we are living in a loneliness epidemic, i can well believe it with how shitty people are today, why would anybody want to get involved anymore lol, but honest mate your probably no alone in your feels, and i would wager most of us arent really living, most dont appear to even enjoy it anymore either, when i observe others, just as miserable as we are, i have always spoken my mind and been hated for doing so, but you get past the stage of caring, people can take it however they like, it is good to be authentic today and speak your piece as you view it, i think as long as your doing what makes you happy, and aint harming anybody, then we just get through this thing named living in our own ways, there will always be somebody along to poo poo you tho, just how it is i guess, but who cares, seriously, also how would we define what constitutes as living anyways ?.

 

[whatevs]

I'm pretty sure there are plenty that don't have a life by the standards that you're proposing and that is what pushing them to consider self-deletion.

 

[FuneralCry]

Some people don't live, they endure an existence just waiting to die. Not everyone has a life. I've never lived at all personally, the reality is that I'm already dead but still trapped here in the prison that is existence. I also don't see life as having any value or mattering in any way. Life just exists as a consequence of evolution, life is just a temporary and meaningless experience that is destined to end and be forgotten about. This is simply inevitable for us all, eventually we won't even likely exist in the memories of the living.

 

[hopeless302]

Stupid title. Lemme explain.

I don't want this to seem like it's disrespectful. @SpentStardust recently.. Attempted. I'm not sure if he succeeded, but he had a YouTube channel. Not a lot of people watched him, but he lived outside of this forum.

I talk to a few people here, and it's.. Crazy learning about their lives. I'm talking about people that were once millionaires, people that were part of activist groups, people that had success in some fashion - people with genuine lives. That lived. Not always good lives, but lives nonetheless.

I don't know why this is only dawning on me now. But it makes every goodbye post all the more.. flabbergast-ly. All we see is a profile picture, and a username. But the scope of it is that THAT is a human being. With a face. And a smile. And a neck and legs. And (hopefully) clothes. With a brain. A person with a life that at least matters to them.

Similar to the Aonde

This sounds surprisingly pro-life. Take it how you want.

bold of you to assume that I have a life... But yeah... I know what you mean. It's something I think about often. That's why if you check my post history, I sound pro-life when I'm speaking directly with other users. That's because behind every usernames there's a person who is struggling and wants the suffering to end. A person who, for better or worse, existed... and perhaps mattered to someone, somewhere. There is serious gravity to that.

 

[Un-]

I'm pretty sure there are plenty that don't have a life by the standards that you're proposing and that is what pushing them to consider self-deletion.

I could've made it clearer. That's my bad. My point is that you, @whatevs, you are a real human being. All I see is an anime wallpaper, but the reality is that you are a real person behind that.. Fuck.. I guess I sound silly..

 

[whatevs]

I could've made it clearer. That's my bad. My point is that you, @whatevs, you are a real human being. All I see is an anime wallpaper, but the reality is that you are a real person behind that.. Fuck.. I guess I sound silly..

I was just feeling contrarian, I got what you meant. The forum is an interface that can make human tragedy look less urgent or tangible.

 

[Cathy Ames]

I'm pretty sure there are plenty that don't have a life by the standards that you're proposing and that is what pushing them to consider self-deletion.

And some of the people he's talking about had their "lives" in the past and are now reduced to having something less.

 

[whatevs]

And some of the people he's talking about had their "lives" in the past and are now reduced to having something less.

 

[Girl-shaped Wound]

A person who, for better or worse, existed... and perhaps mattered to someone, somewhere.

 

[Eternal Oblivion]

That's why I think that's not being born is the greatest gift one can recieve... Not to exist, not to suffer.

 

[👁️👃👁️]

I could've made it clearer. That's my bad. My point is that you, @whatevs, you are a real human being. All I see is an anime wallpaper, but the reality is that you are a real person behind that.. Fuck.. I guess I sound silly..

Nah. I understand what you're saying. That's why I go on facesofsuicide.com sometimes and look at the faces and wonder "What kind of person they were like. What did they like to do. What led them to this point. Etc"

 

[Un-]

Nah. I understand what you're saying. That's why I go on facesofsuicide.com sometimes and look at the faces and wonder "What kind of person they were like. What did they like to do. What led them to this point. Etc"

Something you could do is match the faces there with the profiles of the people here.. You probably couldn't, obviously.. For example, you wouldn't recognise @FuneralCry if you saw her in real life. Most probably, she'd look normal to you. That's most of the people here.

They're bloody real. One moment they're here, another moment they aren't. It's easy to just think of it as another profile with its username struck out. But what if that profile had a face to it?

 

[Domimi]

Yea, I get a spine chilling sensation when I think that everyone here at some time was a baby, a kid. Some had big dreams, others just wanted attentive parents and to be fed. No matter the motivation, everyone had the will to live and pursuit what they felt like was right. Then, came the brutality of this world and sweeped this will away without giving a single fuck lol and here we are

 

[Un-]

Yea, I get a spine chilling sensation when I think that everyone here at some time was a baby, a kid. Some had big dreams, others just wanted attentive parents and to be fed. No matter the motivation, everyone had the will to live and pursuit what they felt like was right. Then, came the brutality of this world and sweeped this will away without giving a single fuck lol and here we are

"Spine-chilling" doesn't describe half of it, lad..

 

[Per Ardua Ad Astra]

And some of the people he's talking about had their "lives" in the past and are now reduced to having something less.

 

[Domimi]

"Spine-chilling" doesn't describe half of it, lad..

In my case it kinda does. Over time, the exposition to the burden and tragedy of the world reduced greatly my ability to empathize and to feel things. I have to force myself to feel anything that isn't apathy or mania. Honestly I can't say if that is a advantage or not :/

 

[Un-]

In my case it kinda does. Over time, the exposition to the burden and tragedy of the world reduced greatly my ability to empathize and to feel things. I have to force myself to feel anything that isn't apathy or mania. Honestly I can't say if that is a advantage or not :/

For me, it's been more of a curse than a blessing. A lot of people here know I'm fucked in the head about a lot of shit.. Stuff like killing things.. Had I have empathy, I think it'd be more human like.

 

[noname223]

Stupid title. Lemme explain.

I don't want this to seem like it's disrespectful. @SpentStardust recently.. Attempted. I'm not sure if he succeeded, but he had a YouTube channel. Not a lot of people watched him, but he lived outside of this forum.

I talk to a few people here, and it's.. Crazy learning about their lives. I'm talking about people that were once millionaires, people that were part of activist groups, people that had success in some fashion - people with genuine lives. That lived. Not always good lives, but lives nonetheless.

I don't know why this is only dawning on me now. But it makes every goodbye post all the more.. flabbergast-ly. All we see is a profile picture, and a username. But the scope of it is that THAT is a human being. With a face. And a smile. And a neck and legs. And (hopefully) clothes. With a brain. A person with a life that at least matters to them.

Similar to the Sonder effect.

This sounds surprisingly pro-life. Take it how you want.

Edit: My point wasn't whether we have successful lives or not. The idea is that you're a human being. A fully-fledged one. I could've made that part clear. My bad.

I also feel sad that many new members seemingly only come here to say goodbye. On the other hand I don't know enough about them to judge. Maybe they are suicidal since decades. or were passive lurkers for a long time.

Personally I recommend people my approach to suicide. Trying a lot of things in order to recover, heal or at least feel a little bit less horrible. I think one should be careful with such a decisive action. On the other hand I met a lot of people with a complete different approach to life/death, different philosophies, different lives and biographies. And I don't think I have the right to impose them my will. This does not feel right.

I try to show different perspectives on several issues. I want that people start to think. Though many of us probably feel like they are in a living hell. I don't know how it exactly feels to be in someone else's shoes. I try to be careful with making judgments on people I barely know.

I wish people here could find a way to live with their own issues. Find a way that makes their torment less meaningless. But many lives are very complex which makes it hard to find a solution. And I don't feel competent enough to coach people on a regular basis. My own life already overburdens me. I am sure whether I am competent for that. And this should not be my main role anyway. I have to deal with huge problems on my own.

I try to give recovery resources, write posts which might be comforting or relatable. Maybe sometimes distracting of the pain. But my own resources are very limited. Often people need specific help and I don't have the energy to invest my time in it. I don't want to annoy people with platitudes. I know how painful that can be.

 

[actual_fox]

Yea, I get a spine chilling sensation when I think that everyone here at some time was a baby, a kid. Some had big dreams, others just wanted attentive parents and to be fed. No matter the motivation, everyone had the will to live and pursuit what they felt like was right. Then, came the brutality of this world and sweeped this will away without giving a single fuck lol and here we are

That is true you are speaking right here.

In my case it kinda does. Over time, the exposition to the burden and tragedy of the world reduced greatly my ability to empathize and to feel things. I have to force myself to feel anything that isn't apathy or mania. Honestly I can't say if that is a advantage or not :/

It makes me feel like I am psychopath, but that might mean that end is near because I can no longer empathize with loss my family will experience, and I can no longer love them like I used to do.

 

[Unlucked]

Stupid title. Lemme explain.

I don't want this to seem like it's disrespectful. @SpentStardust recently.. Attempted. I'm not sure if he succeeded, but he had a YouTube channel. Not a lot of people watched him, but he lived outside of this forum.

I talk to a few people here, and it's.. Crazy learning about their lives. I'm talking about people that were once millionaires, people that were part of activist groups, people that had success in some fashion - people with genuine lives. That lived. Not always good lives, but lives nonetheless.

I don't know why this is only dawning on me now. But it makes every goodbye post all the more.. flabbergast-ly. All we see is a profile picture, and a username. But the scope of it is that THAT is a human being. With a face. And a smile. And a neck and legs. And (hopefully) clothes. With a brain. A person with a life that at least matters to them.

Similar to the Sonder effect.

This sounds surprisingly pro-life. Take it how you want.

Edit: My point wasn't whether we have successful lives or not. The idea is that you're a human being. A fully-fledged one. I could've made that part clear. My bad.

Not everyone, I stopped leaving my house at 15, I'm 24 now. I've just been wasting away here.

 

[SamTam33]

...Personally I recommend people my approach to suicide. Trying a lot of things in order to recover, heal or at least feel a little bit less horrible. I think one should be careful with such a decisive action
...I wish people here could find a way to live with their own issues. Find a way that makes their torment less meaningless. But many lives are very complex which makes it hard to find a solution...

We have to be logical (and humble) enough to admit that sometimes there is no solution.

We all either live with our issues or we don't.

But I couldn't imagine telling someone in an abusive marriage I wish they could find a way to live with it.

For some people, life is no less abusive and it's perfectly rational to want the abuse to stop.

 

[outrider567]

And some of the people he's talking about had their "lives" in the past and are now reduced to having something less.

Much less

 

[Lonerzepam]

bold of you to assume that I have a life... But yeah... I know what you mean. It's something I think about often. That's why if you check my post history, I sound pro-life when I'm speaking directly with other users. That's because behind every usernames there's a person who is struggling and wants the suffering to end. A person who, for better or worse, existed... and perhaps mattered to someone, somewhere. There is serious gravity to that.

True facts, thanks for saying kind words on my goodbye thread. This makes me reconsider my choice even more. Which is a pro and a con if you ask me. Nonetheless I'm thankfull and I appreciate the effort you're putting in eventually helping or even saving someone's life.

 

[Venus13]

I've felt this as well. It really is quite intense. There's a lot of life, and a lot of anguish, behind the username we don't see.

I'm really sorry you're here but I appreciate your thoughts @Un- There's a thoughtfulness to this thread that's bittersweet.

 

[Un-]

It seems that @SpentStardust had a successful attempt yesterday… it was really painful to see his friends desperately try to get in contact on his YouTube channel after he announced his intention. There was a community out there that really cared for him… definitely hurts.

It's times like these where I wish I could, somehow, show people this place. For understanding. Regardless of whether I could or not, his choices are not my story to tell.

It's painful watching the remainders suffer in confusion. But I don't blame @SpentStardust at all. Impossible to..

 

[makethepainstop]

Stupid title. Lemme explain.

I don't want this to seem like it's disrespectful. @SpentStardust recently.. Attempted. I'm not sure if he succeeded, but he had a YouTube channel. Not a lot of people watched him, but he lived outside of this forum.

I talk to a few people here, and it's.. Crazy learning about their lives. I'm talking about people that were once millionaires, people that were part of activist groups, people that had success in some fashion - people with genuine lives. That lived. Not always good lives, but lives nonetheless.

I don't know why this is only dawning on me now. But it makes every goodbye post all the more.. flabbergast-ly. All we see is a profile picture, and a username. But the scope of it is that THAT is a human being. With a face. And a smile. And a neck and legs. And (hopefully) clothes. With a brain. A person with a life that at least matters to them.

Similar to the Sonder effect.

This sounds surprisingly pro-life. Take it how you want.

Edit: My point wasn't whether we have successful lives or not. The idea is that you're a human being. A fully-fledged one. I could've made that part clear. My bad.

Oh, we all have lives on here, but wanting to live them is quite a different story.

 

[rejected]

Nah. I understand what you're saying. That's why I go on facesofsuicide.com sometimes and look at the faces and wonder "What kind of person they were like. What did they like to do. What led them to this point. Etc"

Is that a website still up? I went to look for it in my browser and it said it can't be found.