Is there nothing after death?

[Rational man]

The cosmic god, the creator does exist in us. We are made of the same elements that created the world and we return to the soil. I cannot disprove or prove a devine power but we have nothing to fear in death because we all must leave this WORLD eventually. There's no bearded bastard waiting to judge me or you, no angels with harps or virgins. We return to whatever!!

 

[Chiisai]

That's because you don't want to accept to NOT EXIST. It's normal and is a kind of survival instinct.
We are egoic creatures and we are so scared by the idea of not-being to struggle to admit the most obvious reality. That fear made the success of most of the current religions: the false promise about a "future" after death that calms down the fear of disappearance.

I'm sorry for you and all of us but, despite romanticism and false creeds, the only reality is that we are just dust in the wind...

Said that, if the idea of a "something else" after life make you feel better, go ahead. We humans are made of illusions...

True that humans are egoic creatures. One example is in the past, majority of those involved in the science field held the assumption that animals dont have or are not capable emotions and function solely on instinct because they do not or are not capable of higher cognitive function. Only in recent years was this further studied and refuted as further research was done by animal behaviorists. Heck, just recently further studies even mentioned that plants feel pain.

I believe it is the same with matters of death and afterlife. The point being is that our ego drives us humans to assume we know the answer even if we do not fully comprehend on the matter. Therefore, I disagree that there is a definitive answer to what happens after death as the universal truth is that no living person knows the real answer thus it remains an open interpretation of what is an individual's view of afterlife.

 

[Rabhen]

I am hoping that whatever 'it' is or happens after death is an individual choice. Nothing or Something, and, if it is Something, I am hoping that I maintain the choice to opt for Nothing or have confidence that the Something will be attainable and maintainable. Unlike this farce of a horror show.

 

[ImpulsiveFreak]

I'm somewhat a man of science and I always thought it as before we were born, it wouldn't be just eternal darkness it just be like "nothing" at all, like if we were just unconscious forever and never know. I certainly would be cool with that. Sometimes I like to play with the idea that there's something else beyond where our conscious or "soul" goes somewhere better or worse. I don't know if id be cool with that if I have to keep the same brain or mindset. Feel like it just be better for everything to stop..but that's just my opinion or take on the whole thing.

 

[Squalo]

serious mistake to compare people to animals, we are no longer animals but something beyond: we have done things that nature had not even foreseen, we have created technology, cities, surgery, spaceships to explore space, we have created factories with which we pollute; no natural law would create a being capable of destroying entire forests, polluting with tons of waste, creating atomic energy to make war and with which to shake the planet.

man on this planet is out of place, we are part of a wild nature that we ourselves have destroyed, all this makes me think that this is not our world.

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

With respect, there are plenty. Check out the work of Dr. Ian Stevenson.

The reason it's not more widely researched is that the investigation of the paranormal really isn't an ideal career path for tenured academics.

For there to be an afterlife there would have to be a self a constant self , seperate from the phsyical brain. But every year the brain changes proving there is no self . Who am i who i was at 1 week old, 1 year, 3 years (now i could speak), 7 years, 10 years , 15 years, 20 years old, 30 years old ? these me's at different ages were all different people with different beliefs and memories .

if a person gets a stroke, or brain damage they change become someone else. So the brain determines who that person is.

imo there is no constant self . that memory is accurate is also an ilusion. i can't remember hardly anything of the previous decades but there is an assumption i do. However if any of us tries to remember the last few trips to the grocery or retail big store none of us can remember the details of the many people there , what they were wearing for example. So memory ,consciousness, self etc are not what people are taught they are but all that is explained in brain books nueroscience books i 've read.

 

[OldDrummer]

But every year the brain changes proving there is no self .

But every day you change clothes, proving there is no self.

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

But every day you change clothes, proving there is no self.

Who am i the person i was at 1 year old , 3 years old , 7 , 10 , 15 ,20 , 25, 30?

 

[OldDrummer]

Who am i the person i was at 1 year old , 3 years old , 7 , 10 , 15 ,20 , 25, 30?

None of the above.

 

[Rational man]

I am hoping that whatever 'it' is or happens after death is an individual choice. Nothing or Something, and, if it is Something, I am hoping that I maintain the choice to opt for Nothing or have confidence that the Something will be attainable and maintainable. Unlike this farce of a horror show.

Choice, i believe, is a human quality. ' it ' or ' something ' is meaningless in the current moment. Who would you be consulting.with to opt in or out of nothing?. To believe.this is to subscribe to a devine power who is ready and willing to accept your preference. !.

 

[Rabhen]

Choice, i believe, is a human quality. ' it ' or ' something ' is meaningless in the current moment. Who are you consulting to opt in or out of nothing. To believe.this is to subscribe to a devine power who is ready and willing to accept your preference. !.

I ascribe to consult with only MYSELF as my SELF is the only consult I need as to how I am feeling and what I want to experience. I find there is nothing divine about this earthly existence and find those who do rather absurdly self blinded.

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

serious mistake to compare people to animals, we are no longer animals but something beyond: we have done things that nature had not even foreseen, we have created technology, cities, surgery, spaceships to explore space, we have created factories with which we pollute; no natural law would create a being capable of destroying entire forests, polluting with tons of waste, creating atomic energy to make war and with which to shake the planet.

man on this planet is out of place, we are part of a wild nature that we ourselves have destroyed, all this makes me think that this is not our world.

Humans can't create technology. Humans biologically identical to today humans lived for hundreds of thousands of years without being able to invent anything beyond stone hand tools like a hand cutter. it took anatomically modern humans hundreds of thousands of years t to finally one of them or a few of them finally to invent the wheel or farming. Then with writing (books ) and record keeping the technological details could be recorded or taught to other humans who could then incrementally build on the previous technology.. then it takes a human years of education and study to learn the technology and barely add to that a little if at all. It takes a groups of individuals like a construction company years to learn that tech and manage it well and hire others with years of experience to even use that tech to build things like buildings , roads, etc . . if it were so easy to build new inventions or techs then why don't any of us go now and invent new tech and make Billions? . This technology was built incrementally over thousands of years.

Farming agriculture invented 10,000 years ago.

Wheel invented 2400 years ago.

 

[Squalo]

Humans can't create technology. humans lived for hundreds of thousands of years without being able to invent anything beyond stone hand tools like a hand cutter ( this was the stone age). it took anatomically modern humans hundreds of thousands of years the stone age to finally one of them or a few of them finally to invent the wheel. Then with writing (books ) and record keeping the technological details could be recorded or taught to other humans who couuld then incrementally build on the previous technology.. then it takes a human years of education and study to learn the technology and barely add to that a little if at all. It takes a groups of individuals like a construction company years to learn that tech and manage it well and hire othesr with years of experience to even use that tech to build things like buildings , roads, etc . . if it were so easy to build new inventions or techs then why don't any of us go now and invent new tech and make Billions? . This technology was built incrementally over thousands of years.

thousands of years are few, they are an incredibly short time for a planet like ours that has billions of years behind it, what we humans have done has not been done by any other animal, not even the dinosaurs that have lived much longer than we.

it is evident that everything we are has nothing to do with the nature of our world.

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

thousands of years are few, they are an incredibly short time for a planet like ours that has billions of years behind it, what we humans have done has not been done by any other animal, not even the dinosaurs that have lived much longer than we.

it is evident that everything we are has nothing to do with the nature of our world.

Humans can't do anything . What has the power to do anything is the technology built up over thousands of years that is available that can do things for example an airplane, a phone, a crane, a car, a manufacturing machine, an iphone, Nembutal , Sn , a shotgun

If a group of 50 humans now are stranded on an island with sticks and stones as on the survivor TV show even with all the knowledge humans still couldn't do anything but use their hands to try to shape sticks for tools or try to shape stones. can any of us create nembutal, or SN or a new ctb method? It's impossible for us for a human to do anything. but we can purchase it if allowed. Even if the most brilliant engeineer was stranded on the island he or she could't do anything because all engineers have is the knowledge of the tools, equipment , processes, machines and how to use them and where to purchase them : he or she couldn't even create the steel for a knife or machines or parts as a steel mill is needed

A company can manufacture Nembutal easily because of how i detailed in the other post. if stranded on an island i couldn't purchase a gun, sn, co, N nothing i'd have to drown myself. So our brain power is nothing. we can't create N with our intelligence or brain power. That's created by a company because they have the combined expertise of experts ,combined decades of experience of experts who understand the machines and tech built up over hundreds or thousands of years.

 

[Sherri]

To be honest with you, speaking about my preference, I sure hope there is nothing else. I just wanna click delete and permanently erase.

 

[Squalo]

Humans can't do anything . it's the technology built up over thousands of years that is availiable. if a group of 50 humans now are stranded on an island with sticks and stones as on the survivor TV show even with all the knowledge humans still couldn't do anything but use their hands and try to shape sticks for tools or try to shape stones. can any of us create nembutal, or SN or a new ctb method? It's impossible for us for a human to do anything. but we can purchase it if alllowed. a company can manufacture it easily because of how i detailed in the other post. if stranded on an island i couldn't purchase a gun, sn, co, N nothing i'd have to drown myself.

a group of 50 humans stranded on an island calls for help by making smoke signals with fire trying to land a helicopter, which no animal would do, even the language to call for help is part of our advanced technology.

 

[fight_club]

While I don't actually believe in reincarnation, I am banking on it. The concept of "nothingness" scares the shit out of me.

 

[Nolan96]

I've gone from being unsure about this but hoping there's something to being unsure about this but hoping there's nothing.

Unusual I'd think, but I'm probably not alone in that here.

 

[GentleJerk]

when we die the electrical energy in our brains turns to heat that slowly radiates into the surrounding area slowly spreading outwards until the temperature of our brain is in equilibrium with the environment around us. So, yes our energy doesn't disappear, but we do know where it goes.

- Side note: I am not using this reasoning to refute the existence of an afterlife or that of a creator, just simply pointing out the flaws in trying to use this as a way to prove the existence of the former.

We don't know where that energy really goes, it's impossible for us to track because it is transformed continually from one state to another and never destroyed.

Anyway, I don't buy that consciousness and life itself, is only electricity.

The energy constant law does not prove the existence of a creator imo. I would not use it to try and do that. This "Afterlife" you are referring to might be a very narrow concept, so it needs to be better defined here.

The law does however conflict with the 'nothing' claim. Something that is, can never remain the same forever, or ever become 'nothing'.

Using labels such as 'meaningless' and 'nothing' to describe life and death, certainly doesn't lend much justice to something so mysterious.

I've gone from being unsure about this but hoping there's something to being unsure about this but hoping there's nothing.

Unusual I'd think, but I'm probably not alone in that here.

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It's not unusual at all. Here's to hope!